Its not 1970 anymore.
Things modernize and change. 30K was the interval at the time but now things are designed for higher intervals. At 5K intervals when i change the oil in my LS it looks the same as it did when i put it in.
you know how every one is complaining about how there isn't a new RWD lincoln...
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Its not 1970 anymore.
Things modernize and change. 30K was the interval at the time but now things are designed for higher intervals. At 5K intervals when i change the oil in my LS it looks the same as it did when i put it in.
thaywood
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There's a point in there somewhere...
Again, point? If I feel like keeping fresh fluid/filter in my transmission at intervals that are shorter than what the manual says, it's my business.
Yep. And when I change the oil in my Mark VIII at 3k miles, it looks the same as it did when I put it in too
Of course.
Just saying that you are missing out on a great vehicle just because of the dipstick issue.
There are many pros and cons with these cars but when all the maintenance is done, they are a pleasure to drive and handle like a coupe.
Just saying that you are missing out on a great vehicle just because of the dipstick issue.
There are many pros and cons with these cars but when all the maintenance is done, they are a pleasure to drive and handle like a coupe.
thaywood
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I know. I want an LS and I'll have one some day. Personally, I'd prefer the V-6 with a 5-speed manual. Partially for the fun factor of driving a stick shift in a good handling car and partially for the fuel economy of the V-6. But those are extremely hard to find. If I could find one, the dipstick issue wouldn't be an issue
I know. I want an LS and I'll have one some day. Personally, I'd prefer the V-6 with a 5-speed manual. Partially for the fun factor of driving a stick shift in a good handling car and partially for the fuel economy of the V-6. But those are extremely hard to find. If I could find one, the dipstick issue wouldn't be an issue
The V6 gets a whopping 1 mpg better than the V8. I know; I have both.
I change my oil with dynamite and drain the transmission with a blue-tipped wrench. It works like a charm! Never have to worry about getting every last drop out and things always run like new once you fix it all.
Now where did I put that beer...
Now where did I put that beer...
In the Commercial truck industry, there is a technology called bypass oil filter systems. These systems have a primary filter and something equivalent to a secondary or auxiliary. The theory is, you have a filter cartridge that has a low rate of flow that will clean many of the fine contaminants over a long period of time. According to the theory, you change the big filter periodically and replace the oil lost in the change. The oil remains clean and the chemical package provided by the oil manufacturer gets replenished with the addition of the new oil. Because all contaminants went with the old filter, there is no need to throw away good oil. Combine this with normal loss of oil due to blow by and the need to add a gallon about every 5000 to 10000 miles, we have trucks out here that are approaching a half a million miles without a major oil drain and replace. For this to be effective, the oil must be sampled and analized at regular intervals. All results are catalogued for reference. Let me tell you, they can look at the analysis and tell you when there is a rod bearing failing or if you are about to lose a fuel injector etc..
I don't think there is room for such a system on most cars.
I don't think there is room for such a system on most cars.
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thaywood
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Actually found a 5-speed V-6 2002 LS on CarTrader.com yesterday. It is about 75 miles from me and has 125k miles on it. They want $4700 bucks for it. It is black with charcoal interior. Looks like it has a lot of options. From the LS guys with experience with these cars, with that mileage is it worth the price?
If you are gettin an LS i would suggest a gen II. Tons of changes were made to it including factory HIDs and parking sensors. Gen I requires more maintenence and has a hydraulic cooling fan versus electric.
The manual is also hard to find parts for. The V6 also has 60 HP less than the GEN II v8
thaywood said:
I would try and get them down to 4K. 125000 miles is a lot. I would really be looking at previous owner info.
I will get backlash for this but, the LS could have been had with 5sp manual in the V8 as an unpublished fleet option.
thaywood
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I've heard about some of the differences. But the Gen2 LS didn't have a manual transmission option (manumatics don't count). So that means I'm pretty much confined to the '00-'02 models.
True. But it's still a manual. I'm so frakkin' tired of slushomatics. I need a car with a manual. I love the look of the LS and there are 5-speed cars out there so that's what I want.
It's about average. 12.5k per year give or take. But it does sound like a lot. I'm definitely in the market for an LS but I desperately want a manual transmission. I'm tired of slushboxes. I just took the wife's Cobra out for a spin yesterday and there's nothing like driving a fast, powerful, sharp handling car with a manual transmission. I just like being in complete contol of what the car does. I don't need the transmission shifting for me. I wanna do it myself (and I've driven the "manumatic" LS and it just ain't even close to being the same feeling). The LS has the advantage of having two extra doors and more back seat room for the kids too. Too bad they didn't make any 5-speed V-6 Gen2 LS's
Where can I find one of them??????
It's about average. 12.5k per year give or take. But it does sound like a lot. I'm definitely in the market for an LS but I desperately want a manual transmission. I'm tired of slushboxes. I just took the wife's Cobra out for a spin yesterday and there's nothing like driving a fast, powerful, sharp handling car with a manual transmission. I just like being in complete contol of what the car does. I don't need the transmission shifting for me. I wanna do it myself (and I've driven the "manumatic" LS and it just ain't even close to being the same feeling). The LS has the advantage of having two extra doors and more back seat room for the kids too. Too bad they didn't make any 5-speed V-6 Gen2 LS's
Where can I find one of them??????
Your wife has a cobra...that's hot
thaywood
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Yeppers!
(And that's my '97 Mark VIII LSC in the background
)It's a '96 convertible with 53k miles as of now. It had 46k when we got it last year. I love driving that car. But she's very protective of her baby. It's got Eibach lowering springs, caster/camber plates, Cobra R wheels, K&N CAI kit, cherry bomb mufflers, and a new set of P255/45ZR17 Falken directional tires. It's an awesome car to say the least...
That's because it isn't true.
thaywood
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Thanks! I just wish she'd let me drive it more often
Had that feeling. I don't know a whole lot about the LS but I've never heard of that oprion...
Back on topic for a second...I'm all for Lincoln using the Mustang's platform to spin off a good RWD Lincoln product. The only drawback in my opinion will be the front suspension. From what I've read, the 2015 Mustang will still be using the same McPherson strut front suspension. Lincoln deserves better than that. The last RWD Lincoln to use front struts was the '92 Mark VII built on the old Fox chassis. Ford needs to understand that premium luxury cars should get the best of the best. Not hand-me-down struts from an entry level platform. The ideal platform from which to base a high performance Lincoln sport sedan would be the Falcon. It has a proper SLA front suspension with coil-over shocks and a sophisticated IRS (control blade). But we know that'll never happen.
Lincolnls00arturo
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They need a new designer, v8 engine that will set apart from v6 n regular 8s, rear wheel drive. For 4door needs to be biger more aggressive. lincoln has to be open for new ideas. do the american dream car. Last thing, dont ask 40,000 on the car the only has 270 horsepower.
Ideas for a american car that would be affordable:
Pony,camaro,firebird,grandtorino,40s lincoln sanphry v12, buick super, ect....
Ideas for a american car that would be affordable:
Pony,camaro,firebird,grandtorino,40s lincoln sanphry v12, buick super, ect....
G-RELL
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value should only be placed on HP output??? So a Kia and a MB should cost the same if they put up the same HP numbers???
All of the '00-'06 Lincoln LSes had 5-speeds. Most of them might be slushboxes, but they're 5-speed slushboxes.Too bad they didn't make any 5-speed V-6 Gen2 LS's
thaywood
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All of the '00-'06 Lincoln LSes had 5-speeds. Most of them might be slushboxes, but they're 5-speed slushboxes.
Ha. Ha.
FYI, the guy who ran the calibration teams on the LS's 5R55N and 5R55S recommends a 30K fluid change interval.
Lincoln now has its own design studio. They founded it last year when they hired Max Wolff away from Cadillac (he designed the current CTS). The new MKZ is the first car they've produced; it was a reworking of the car that was in the works when they started the studio, but it's also the vanguard of their new design direction--Lincoln will be introducing seven new vehicles over the next few years, starting with the '13 MKZ this fall.Hmm. Yes if they can get a different designer in there to design this sports sedan I can see my self doing whatever it takes to buy one in 2016 or 2017 when it's finally released.
Telco
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I hope that doesn't mean they're gonna be made for short people. We wanted to buy a CTS but the driver's area was way, way too small for me to drive the car comfortably. The seat wouldn't go back far enough.
pragmatic
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Parts for the manual are a non-issue (assuming you know how to drive one). Remember to change the transmission fluid every 60,000 miles (Lincoln's recommendation). I've been using Pennzoil Sychromesh fluid (same as Quaker State) with good results (started using it in T9 in XR4Ti and continued in T5 in a 5.0 L Mustang) provides smooth shifts.
Bought mine 9 years ago with 35,000 miles now at 147,000, still smooth shifting, original clutch. But I've never replaced a worn clutch (in 30 years and 500,000 miles of manual transmission driving) and I've never gotten rid of a car with les than 145,000 miles. I have changed them when changing transmissions (XR4Ti changing from T9 to T5 at 200,000 miles, E150 at 180,000 after a rear seal drained the box) but in both cases the old clutch had plenty of life left.
Usual Gen I issues (hydraulic fan mainly). As far as mpg that's an individual thing. Never got less than 22 or more than 27.
Bought mine 9 years ago with 35,000 miles now at 147,000, still smooth shifting, original clutch. But I've never replaced a worn clutch (in 30 years and 500,000 miles of manual transmission driving) and I've never gotten rid of a car with les than 145,000 miles. I have changed them when changing transmissions (XR4Ti changing from T9 to T5 at 200,000 miles, E150 at 180,000 after a rear seal drained the box) but in both cases the old clutch had plenty of life left.
Usual Gen I issues (hydraulic fan mainly). As far as mpg that's an individual thing. Never got less than 22 or more than 27.
