Wow! A lot of Lincolns of all types and ages down here!

[don-ohio]

Proof's in the pudding,Loud....................where are the FWD winners against rear wheel drive in the same body length,class,weight,etc.? You take a lil Focus and go skating? Maybe Ferrari and Maserati need to learn racing from you? LOL! don-ohio ^)

P.S.: Not easily offended,but the ignorance word was used first by you, in complete ignorance.

 

[Telco]

I think I'd just walk away from this one, Loud. Don's just looking for a flame war. Enjoy your FWD commuter. I may be doing the same, because a lot of gas goes through the engine when you have a 40 mile one way commute. I will still be trying to find a RWD commuter, but if it comes to it I'll probably get a Corolla. They handle like a go-cart and get down the road at a pretty good clip for what it is. No, it's not going to outrun or outhandle an F1 race car or a Corvette, but it'll go further on a gallon of gas than either. Plus, it'll keep the wear, tear and miles on whatever we get to replace the LS.

BTW, test drove a V6 and a V8 Charger today. The V6 felt every bit as fast as the LS, and the V8 would easily smoke the LS. Running along about 70MPH, the instant mileage readout was showing about 32MPG. Faster than that, it drops off but it still pulls down about 25MPG at 80MPH.

 

[don-ohio]

Not looking for flame war,Telco(I just don't fold like an accordion,LOL!).............and like I said,I HAD a daily commuter Focus,manual 5-speed 40 mpg for a while. My boy just needed it worse than I did. I would rather drive my Aerostar van,or my LSes than ANY FWD I've ever seen or driven or repaired. don-ohio ^)

 

[1LoudLS]

well for starters, you will never have two cars of different configurations with the exact same everything else ("SAME body design against rear wheel drive, same class, same quality build, WEIGHT to power ratio,etc.) as they are different cars after all (unless you know of some car out there is don world that is offered in both a FWD and a RWD option...) but I did already give you a link of a FWD car that beat a whole lot of RWD cars that in every way should out class the hell out of it on paper, yet in real life, they don't...

you on the other hand, just keep talking about what is and is not possible in your own head as you have no direct experience to the contrary

 

[don-ohio]

Repeat post #26. Maybe you can make those cars faster......I KNOW you could make èm LOUD-er!.LOL! don-ohio ^)

 

[1LoudLS]

Repeat post #26. Maybe you can make those cars faster......

Focus...
...Ferrari...
...Maserati

Well of course I could make all of them faster... in fact, the things that makes any of them faster, is the same that is needed to make them all faster. its not hard silly, but the cost does increase exponentially, similarly as the cost of each car does.

 

[FDR]

you have no ideal

Just thought I'd let you know, after seeing you use "ideal" many times, you always mean "idea"

"I was thinking and had an idea about a brake upgrade"

"These brake pads resist fade and produce little dust, making them ideal for a luxury sport sedan"

Moving on...

I love thrashing the STs. If my LS makes me think everyone is out to race, then the ST makes me think every trip is a timed competition. Especially with the double (or half?) ratio steering wheel only going 1.5 turns lock to lock

 

[LS4me]

.....I would way rather get the new RS and save a few bucks in my pocket that I would probably have to spend on tires from trying out drift mode to often!

Drifting a FWDer??? Sounds like a nice trick when the back wheels do nothing other than hold up the rear half of the car!

 

[1LoudLS]

no, mearly stating that for the $40k or so the honda is (give or take with exchange rate), I could just buy a focus RS (instead of an ST) and put the rest toward tires...

the RS has fords most advanced AWD system yet, its able to transfer up to 70% of the power back to the rear wheels. and unlike a lot of "torque vectoring" systems that will just drag a brake on one side or another, the new GKN twinster rear end (similar to the ones they build for range rovers) uses a pair of clutches to precisely control how much power is sent to each wheel from there. it also has a drift mode that will over drive the rear tires at a faster rate than the front tires. and since ford designed the car to take a minimum of 30 minutes of of constant abuse in either of the track modes, it will do two things extremely well, drift and burn tires down to the cords in no time! its a very interesting (and expensive) little bugger to say the least.