Why is former President Carter flapping his yap?

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Just watched the guy on the news. Talk about the Worst President Ever spouting off about things he knows nothing about just to sell his damn book. Leave it to guys like Clinton and Carter to open their mouths when the code of conduct clearly indicates former Presidents should not talk about a sitting President. What a yahoo. Thank God he is not our President. The guy doesn't even have a clue what "pre-emptive strike" means. Wolf (I'm) Blitzed-er even tried 3 times to educate him on the meaning and the guy didn't have a clue.

President Carter...please stick to painting houses. That is all you are qualified to do.
 
MonsterMark said:
Leave it to guys like Clinton and Carter to open their mouths when the code of conduct clearly indicates former Presidents should not talk about a sitting President.
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But how come I get to listen to Bush Sr and you dont complain about that? I have watched news shows on occasion with President Ford as the guest. Not to mention the god awful hour I spent listening to Mama Bush a few years back. Even tricky dick had things to say in the later years.

Bryan, how come I never hear you say anything like - "I dont like Clinton, but he made a good point when he said xxx" --- Are you so partisian that you cant bear giving any thought or credit to a non republican?

Really my friend, you will find yourself much more well informed if you listen to everyone regardless of party. Neither side is right 100% of the time, Neither is wrong 100% of the time.

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Joeychgo said:
Really my friend, you will find yourself much more well informed if you listen to everyone regardless of party. Neither side is right 100% of the time, Neither is wrong 100% of the time.
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That's just it. I do 'listen' to everyone I can. I love the info, from the left or right.

I can't speak to papa bush speaking and if he was talking about US policy, I wouldn't be in favor of it. I am willing to bet he doesn't talk about US policy.

I don't hate Clinton. He was lucky to serve at the time he did. America fortunately saw the risk he posed to the Country and put Republicans in charge of legislation for the 1st time in 40 years to neuter him. As far as Monica went, I guess that type of castration didn't work.:slam

I am defintely more to the right on most issues. I'll agree to that. But then again, it is my belief that the right is right on most issues so I guess that is where I find myself.

Regarding Carter, it is unprecedented for a former President to write a book about US policy. Especially about 'current' US policy. It is flat out wrong. If he wants to be President again, heh, go ahead and run Jimmy. Otherwise, you had your day in the sun. There was NOTHING positive that came out of your administration. For him to sit there and say that this admistration lied and twisted the facts makes him nothing more than a shill for the left wingers.

I have posted many things I thought that Clinton did well. I actually kind of like the guy. I am just upset that he used the setting of the Oval Office to get his rocks off. That is probably the biggest thing I dislike about him. Oh, and the fact that he is a phony and of course the fact the he is married to Hillary.

Don't worry, CNN will run this spot again and again and again.

I find it laughable during the half hour that had Carter blabbing, they left up on the bottom of the screen: Carter: Bush Lied about Iraq planning, (or something to that effect. I forget now.)
 
Joeychgo said:
But how come I get to listen to Bush Sr and you dont complain about that? I have watched news shows on occasion with President Ford as the guest. Not to mention the god awful hour I spent listening to Mama Bush a few years back. Even tricky dick had things to say in the later years.

Bryan, how come I never hear you say anything like - "I dont like Clinton, but he made a good point when he said xxx" --- Are you so partisian that you cant bear giving any thought or credit to a non republican?

Really my friend, you will find yourself much more well informed if you listen to everyone regardless of party. Neither side is right 100% of the time, Neither is wrong 100% of the time.

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I agreed with Clinton when he signed the NAFTA treaty.

There. You happy?

Back to reality: The latest thing Bill (It's all about me) Clinton said was a lie at the Rosa Parks funeral about him and his buddies protesting, where he tried to make the whole thing about himself instead of her. If you go back and read the transcript even you will be amazed at the ego of this guy. No, here, I'll post it for you [excerpt]:

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CLINTON: I remember, as if it were yesterday, that fateful day 50 years ago. I was a 9-year-old southern white boy who rode a segregated bus every single day of my life[LIE]. I sat in the front. Black folk sat in the back. [LIE]

When Rosa showed us that black folks didn't have to sit in the back anymore, two of my friends and I, who strongly approved of what she had done, decided we didn't have to sit in the front anymore.

[APPLAUSE]

It was just a tiny gesture by three ordinary kids. But that tiny gesture was repeated over and over again millions and millions of times in the hearts and minds of children, their parents, their grandparents, their great grandparents, proving that she did help to set us all free.

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There were no segregated school buses in Hope, Arkansas, in 1955, and there were no city buses at all in that town, so Clinton made the whole thing up.

The real reason he sat in the back was because he was a cut-up and didn't want the driver to catch him. But he got caught this time telling a huge whopper at Rosa Parks' funeral.

So remind me again why any of us should say good things about him? You libs call Bush a liar without proof, yet I show you proof of Willie's lies and you brush them off. Hypocritical.
 
MonsterMark said:
I can't speak to papa bush speaking and if he was talking about US policy, I wouldn't be in favor of it. I am willing to bet he doesn't talk about US policy.
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Ive seen him several times, discussing his kid's administration. All psitive of course.

I also have seen him in a documentary or two about the first IRAQ war, along with Dick Cheany, discussing not why they made the decisions they made, along with US policy info.

Personally, I think ex-Presidents can be quite helpful. According to one documentary I saw, Clinton was 3rd and inches from attacking North Korea and Carter negotiated with the North Koreans with Madalyn Albright coming in to finalize the deal that was made that averted our attack. GW chose to not continue the deal from what I understand. Carter has been helpful in numerous situations as I recall vaguely.

The only Ex President I dont remember seeing flappin his yap was Reagan. Maybe he forgot those 8 years? (sorry, couldnt help myself)
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Joeychgo said:
Personally, I think ex-Presidents can be quite helpful. According to one documentary I saw, Clinton was 3rd and inches from attacking North Korea and Carter negotiated with the North Koreans with Madalyn Albright coming in to finalize the deal that was made that averted our attack. GW chose to not continue the deal from what I understand. Carter has been helpful in numerous situations as I recall vaguely.
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And now they have nuclear missiles. Yeah. Great job Jimmy.
 
fossten said:
And now they have nuclear missiles. Yeah. Great job Jimmy.
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Well, and im not researching to back this up, but my understand they resumed building them after GW reneged on the deal.
 
Joeychgo said:
Well, and im not researching to back this up, but my understand they resumed building them after GW reneged on the deal.
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Your recollection is faulty. The Bush Administration discovered that North Korea was enriching uranium in violation of the 1994 agreement signed with Carter. When the US confronted North Korea, there were first repeated denials, then an admission that they had nuclear weapons, at which point North Korea withdrew from the 1994 agreement.

And I did look it up. :biggrin:
 
MonsterMark said:
President Carter...please stick to painting houses. That is all you are qualified to do.
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To prove my point, here are some juicy tidbits.

"[Marshall Tito] is a man who believes in human rights.
[He is] a great and courageous leader [who] has led his people
and protected their freedom almost for the last 40 years."
-- Carter, while still in office, hailing Yugoslavia's communist dictator

"Our goals are the same: to have a just system of economics and
politics ... We believe in enhancing human rights."
-- Carter comparing himself to Romania's dictator Nicolae Ceausescu

"Our concept of human rights is preserved in [Communist] Poland."
-- Carter speaking to Stalinist Edward Gierek, Poland's First Secretary

"[I am] ashamed of what my country has done to your country."
-- Carter speaking to Haitian dictator Lt. Gen. Raoul Cedras

"I don't see that they [the North Koreans] are an outlaw nation."
-- Carter in North Korea, lauding Stalinist Kim Il Sung,
one of the most destructive and repressive dictators in history

"Ill-informed commentators in both countries have cast the other side
as a villain and have even forecast inevitable confrontation
between the two nations."
-- Carter making exquisite moral equivalence between the giant and
repressive Chinese Communist state and America
 
This guy sums up Carter well.

Steven Hayward, the F. K. Weyerhaeuser Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and Senior Fellow at the Pacific Research Institute. He is the author of the new book The Real Jimmy Carter: How Our Worst Ex-President Undermines American Foreign Policy, Coddles Dictators and Created the Party of Clinton and Kerry.

Hayward: He was a disaster on the economy, blaming high inflation, for example, on the character of the American people. But by far his worst failing was in foreign policy. His human rights policy led to human rights disasters in Iran and Nicaragua, and emboldened the Soviet Union to extend its reach further into the third world. The fruits of the Iran disaster are still very much with us today. The fall of Iran set in motion the advance of radical Islam and the rise of terrorism that culminated in September 11. If we had stuck by the Shah or his successors, the history of the last 25 years in the Middle East would have been very different (and the Iranian people would have been better off, too). For starters, the Soviet Union would have hesitated greatly over invading Afghanistan in 1979.
 
“Even if…lies and trickery by Saddam Hussein are exposed, this will not indicate any real or proximate threat by Iraq to the United States or to our allies. ~ Former President Carter on Iraq
 
Keep 'em coming, Bryan - you've overrun their lines and are proceeding unopposed.

:gr_hail:
 
fossten said:
Keep 'em coming, Bryan - you've overrun their lines and are proceeding unopposed.
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Yay...more deluded conservative back patting! Just what we needed...what a helpful and up to the moment post fossten!
 
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