I was just on my way home from work and I stopped at a stoplight. As tired as I was, I nearly floored the accellerator, the RPM shot up followed by two jerks forward and rear wheels spinning. Question is, does wheelspin damage the engine or transmission? Its an obvious yes, but how badly would it damage components if it is only done once or twice?
Wheel spin
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Shredicus
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Are you saying it's like a delayed engagement thing where you punch it and there was a delay followed by the power being delivered too abruptly causing the wheels to spin or... something else...?
Shredicus: No, but I did have that issue when I was using regular gas. After switching to premium it made all the difference.
BlackLS06: Thanks for clarifying that part on the loss of traction. I was referring to that.
BlackLS06: Thanks for clarifying that part on the loss of traction. I was referring to that.
RigsLS
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AdvanceTrac would bog it down anyhow, love or hate this feature!
In slippery weather I ALWAYS leave it on. I hate the bog down but it's as intended and works.
In slippery weather I ALWAYS leave it on. I hate the bog down but it's as intended and works.
KStromberg
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Consider wheel spin to be a relief to your drivetrain. I wouldn't worry. Dead-hooking puts more stress and that all depends on power level. You're not at a stage in the game where that should be of any concern.
KStromberg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghp6FjS5e-s&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Your tires will still suffer! Lol
Your tires will still suffer! Lol
pragmatic
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In low traction situations sudden regaining of traction by a spinning tire can cause damage. I have seen differential teeth sheared off from trucks that spin a tire on ice and roll on to dry pavement. Also have see a differential that had exploded from spinning one tire too fast (school bus).
Remember if only one tire is spinning it is going twice as fast as the speedometer is indicating.
Remember if only one tire is spinning it is going twice as fast as the speedometer is indicating.
Wheelspin is the only thing that has saved the entire drivetrain on my mustang 
Although, you are definitely adding stress to the drivetrain when you spin out hard and then catch traction all of a sudden, like going from spinning on ice to hitting a dry spot.. That's not a good thing to do regularly
Although, you are definitely adding stress to the drivetrain when you spin out hard and then catch traction all of a sudden, like going from spinning on ice to hitting a dry spot.. That's not a good thing to do regularly
mlara1129
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Care to share?
So can anyone share a particular instance when Advancetrac has been so "great"?
I mean I'm not bashing it, but the only experiences I've had with Advancetrac have been when it kicks in after I hit a bad pot hole or bump on the road, at which point I lose all power and get a mean jerk in my seat.
Maybe I just haven't put my LS in a situation where Advancetrac would be useful...anyone care to share?
So can anyone share a particular instance when Advancetrac has been so "great"?
I mean I'm not bashing it, but the only experiences I've had with Advancetrac have been when it kicks in after I hit a bad pot hole or bump on the road, at which point I lose all power and get a mean jerk in my seat.
Maybe I just haven't put my LS in a situation where Advancetrac would be useful...anyone care to share?
As stated in another thread, I drove a new '03 LS at Michigan Proving Grounds. Lincoln set up an autocross type course on the wet skid-pad and we got to drive it Advancetrac off and on. It was an adventure to stay inside the cones with the system off and speeds were slow. With Advancetrac engaged I drove the course with the loud pedal floored the entire time and the car easily stayed inside the cones and times were faster. It was quite an eye-opener. Fortunately, Lincoln engineers have allowed drivers much more latitude than other makers before the system takes over so the conditions where it intervenes are generally more "severe". You almost have to try to get it to engage. I've had the TC (the 2000 LS) kick-in on a wet, straight section of freeway. Apparently I hit an oily spot....
I've yet to get the back end of this car to kick out under normal driving conditions. Say there's an icy corner and wheel(s) is(are) spinning, is it best to let off or just keep throttle steady and steer it out? Might seem like a dumb question but I think the natural response might be to let off the throttle a bit and let it hook up but is this the damage you're referring to
chris2523
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no that's fine. but doing a burnout in the grass or gravel and then catching on dry pavement is not fine.
1LoudLS
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one time i was driving to the hospital to meet the ambulance with my grandfather, was taking the the 94E to 23N clover style interchange a bit hot (somewhere above 60). it is a nice big loop with a very consistent rise in elevation as the under passing hwy loops up to the over passing hwy EXCEPT for a very small dip at the merge point, well as soon as the rear went over that dip it kicked out pretty hard and fast and before i could even react, the car had cut the power and used the braking system to help straighten back out. the car only jumped out of line about half a lane. and by then the power cut back in and the rocket ship was off again.
without a doubt, there would have been damage had the advancedtrac not done its job, there have been other times i have felt it working and its completely different from my last LS with regular trac control.
1LoudLS
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you should steer, but it doesn't matter what your doing to the throttle, as the car is going to cut the power to the motor when it senses the wheel spin.
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On a right hand turn, when the passenger rear dips in lower pavement, like a dip as you mentioned, on the peddle and the AdvanceTrac bogs the engine down and prevents me from getting wheel spin.
But yeah, most the time I drive around with it OFF unless, I know it's a little slippery out. on rainy days I'd have it on for sure, never want to get into any unnecessary hydroplaning.
Then there's the days, I go to stomp on it and forgot it was still ON and feels like I need new COPS again.
Hate it but wouldn't perm. disable it.
Today I had my first experience with advance trac system. It's currently 33F and snow falling. Coming off the I95 at approximately 65-70mph, there was a dip in the road that almost made me lose control of the car, ATS kicked in just in time to regain control before any damage to me, the vehicle, or other drivers occured. Talk about a real life saving feature...
mlara1129
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Ah just realized you are from NY... I'm about to go out in that same storm, with summers 
lol Hopefully my Advancetrac won't need to work.
lol Hopefully my Advancetrac won't need to work.Ah just realized you are from NY... I'm about to go out in that same storm, with summers
I would stay out of temps below ~40º on summer tires. The rubber turns to plastic as it approaches ~32º. You'll be slipping all over the place. Been there....... Done that!
I have summer tires on my car and we got part of that storm here in Texas unfortunately. I was losing traction driving in a straight line!
Luckily advancetrac kept kicking in.
prophaci
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I will say my TC helped my tail today but had to cut it when the Lincoln got stuck. NOW I see why so many of you guys put these things up when it snows... Tokyo Drifted a round-a-bout during the blizzard here this morning because the TC kicked in but a split second too late.