Urethane Spring Seats - possible source found

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    Ok...

    Since Energy suspension didn't want to play,,, I did some digging and found a possibility for new urethane spring seats for the LS and/or Jag suspension conversion. They are somewhat local to me, (although I am working in the opposite direction at the present).

    Custom Molded Polyurethane Parts | Compression Molded Urethane

    And guess who has one new front LS spring seat,,, and one new Jag spring seat, (fits all 4 corners of Jag... and rear LS springs), to offer as prototypes?????? :D

    Spring Seats.JPG

    Keep in mind that this isn't even in the developement stage yet. This is just to get a price quote for manufacturing them. They could be $100 for all 4... $100 a pair... or $100 each.

    At this point I am just checking to see who would be interested... and in which type and how many. I would imagine that the bigger the order,,, the cheaper thay would be. So if interested,,, post your request and amount.

    Example: If you plan on sticking with the LS suspension,,, and want isolators for all 4 corners.... Type

    2 - LS front
    2 - Jag rear

    If you plan on doing a Jag suspension conversion,,, and want isolators for all 4 corners... Type

    4 - Jag

    And obviously... if you only want 2 for the front or back,,, then you would type

    2 - LS
    or
    2 - Jag

    If/when enough people respond,,, I can contact them with a large enough order amount to make it cost effective for both them and us. And if anybody is wondering... I am not affiliated with the company, (or anyone working for it),,, and don't stand to make even a penny out of this.
     
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    Yeah... scorching.

    Sport or non sport doesn't matter. What does... is whether or not you plan on keeping the LS factory suspension setup,,, or converting it to Jag springs and shocks on all 4 corners.

    Retaining the LS would then be

    2 - LS front
    2 - Jag rear

    Converting to the Jag suspension would be

    4 - Jag

    Tried your link and nothing specific came up. However,,, if you were referring to "4 - SPRING ISOLATOR" ... then that would be the same black plastic one I have pictured above. A urethane version would be much more durable against the elements, wear, and age.

    I may have a chance to visit the company I linked,,, early next week. If it happens... I'll see what they say.
     
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    thanks 04_sport_ls,
    id be interested.

    i have the jag rear springs (p#XR811174). have not taken the old apart yet. i could use the old rear spring seats but new urethane ones might be a nice option depending on price.

    i also have the jag front springs, but i went with the ones for the 6cyl jag (p#XR835296) since my LS is the 6 cyl (the 8cyl ones are p#XR835298).

    surprisingly these front springs came from jag with spring seats included, as pictured below. they are, as expect bigger than, the original 6cyl LS's (broken in the picture). did your p#XR835298 come with spring seats too? can you tell if mine are plastic too? if so id consider urethane ones for these too.


    want me to try to take some measurements and we can see if they are the same as the springs seats for the p#XR835298?
    thanks!

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    Only 1 of my front springs came with an isolator. That's the one in my pic above.

    This project may actually go somewhere. I ended up getting to UUP on Monday,,, and showed them what I had. We talked for a while,,, and to keep costs down.... it was decided to forgo the spring alignment tabs and clips,,, and just use an inboard solid rib tapered to match the spring coil... to keep the spring centerd on the isolator.

    They are going to try and actually prototype a mold for these. They said if they make a 4 cavity mold, (making 2 LS and 2 Jag at the same time), they might be able to get the cost down to $20-$25 per isolator.

    It was kinda ironic,,, because one of the guys I was talking to had a strange smile on his face. When I asked him what was up,,, he said he was just looking at the isolators on his vehicle, (non LS), and thinking they needed changing out.

    The place was fairly small... but they have contracts with the military to make "dummy" training firearms and grenades out of urethane, (within a couple ounces of actual weight). They also make other parts and tools,,, such as hammers, (dead blow shot filled), for automotive or other "shop" needs.

    If the LS urethane isolators becfome a "go"... they would likely sell them direct out of their Ebay store,,, since I made it clear to them that I have no intention of being a distributor.

    Cross your fingers....... maybe I will hear from them in a week or 2. I gave them the parts to work off of to reverse engineer a mold.
     
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    Jokken,

    All of the S-Type, (and LS) springs should be the same size, (diameter), regardless of engine. All that is different is the spring rate... based on the size of the coil wire used,,, depending on how much weight it has to support.
     
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    thanks 04_sport,

    good work, a thank you from all of us!
     
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    04_sport,
    i am trying to decide if I wait till UUP gets back to you or if I should continue replacing my coil-over-struts. i only have one front out and apart right now.
    in the meanwhile I wanted to ask you. what is the small round plastic part called, and where does it go? it is white in my picture, above the broken spring seat, it is kinda hollow/channeled on the other side.
     
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    Where did it come from? Was it in the box with the shock? Might be a spacer for the lower shock mount. I haven't seen that part before, and it didn't come with any Jag parts I ordered.

    As far as assembling your shocks and springs... that's up to you if you need the vehicle. I haven't heard anything from UUP yet. If I get a chance I'll call,,, but work has me tied up lately.
     
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    ah you are right! it is the spacer for the lower shock mount. I see the second one on the old shock still. I guess i'll put them back on the new Bilstein.

    cool hopefully UUP gives you an update soon,
    thanks
     
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    Bottom mount on the Jag shock is different. Pretty sure the spacer won't fit. IIRC,,, the factory LS shock uses a rubberized bottom mount... and the Jag uses a pivoting ball socket type mount.
     

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