Trunk Paint

SurfjaxLS

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On my trunklid, black spots appeared a while ago, and nothing will take them out. I've tried wax, a 3 step paint cleaning system, and mild rubbing compound. I'm assuming the problem is under the paint, because the finish isn't as glossy, and the it isn't as smooth as the rest of the trunklid paint.

Here's a quote that accurately describes the problem, "On close inspection, one can often see tiny specks of the black residue trapped in the surface of the aluminum panel and possibly milky-looking areas that lack the shine of an adjacent area."

I got the quote from a site about polishing bare aluminum, but this is exactly what is happening.

My question is, what could be causing this, and what does the warranty on the paint cover? Also, how long is the warranty, and extended warranty if it exists?
 
SurfjaxLS said:
On my trunklid, black spots appeared a while ago, and nothing will take them out. I've tried wax, a 3 step paint cleaning system, and mild rubbing compound. I'm assuming the problem is under the paint, because the finish isn't as glossy, and the it isn't as smooth as the rest of the trunklid paint.

Here's a quote that accurately describes the problem, "On close inspection, one can often see tiny specks of the black residue trapped in the surface of the aluminum panel and possibly milky-looking areas that lack the shine of an adjacent area."

I got the quote from a site about polishing bare aluminum, but this is exactly what is happening.

My question is, what could be causing this, and what does the warranty on the paint cover? Also, how long is the warranty, and extended warranty if it exists?
I don't know if this is what you are experiencing (I don't even know if the trunk is aluminum), however, there is a TSB about something similar to this which goes as follows:
TSB 04-25-1

12/27/04

ALUMINUM CORROSION - SERVICE TIP

FORD:
2000-2004 Crown Victoria, Taurus,
Expedition, F-150, Ranger
2000-2005 Explorer

LINCOLN:
2000-2004 LS, Town Car, Navigator

MERCURY:
2000-2004 Grand Marquis, Sable
2000-2005 Mountaineer

ISSUE
Some vehicles may exhibit a bubbling or blistering under the paint on aluminum body parts. This is due to iron contamination of the aluminum panel.

ACTION
This TSB provides service tips and procedures, outlining methods to properly prepare and protect aluminum body parts from cross contamination.

BACKGROUND

Ford's Scientific Research Laboratory has performed a number of tests on vehicle body parts returned for corrosion related concerns. Testing has revealed that the aluminum corrosion was caused by iron particles working their way into the aluminum body part, prior to it being painted.

SERVICE TIPS AND PROCEDURE

When repairing a vehicle for corrosion or collision damage, it is essential that extreme care be taken to cover and protect all aluminum parts to prevent cross metal contamination. Areas in a shop where metal work is performed should be sectioned off, using at the very least curtain walls, to prevent metal dust migration. Cross contamination can also occur through the use of metal working tools (hammers, dolly's, picks, grinding wheels, etc.). Tools used for aluminum repairs should be kept separate, and not used to repair other metals. Wire brushes used on aluminum should be made of stainless steel.

NOTE THIS PROCEDURE SHOULD ONLY BE USED ON NON-PERFORATED METAL. REVIEW WARRANTY AND POLICY MANUAL FOR VEHICLE WITH PERFORATED METAL.

NOTE READ THIS PROCEDURE COMPLETELY BEFORE PERFORMING ANY SERVICE.

1. Corrosion should be removed by blasting. Use an aggressive blasting material, such as acrylic (salt grain size).

2. Use a DA sander with 180 grit paper backed abrasive. Only sand and featheredge the damaged area.

3. Mix and apply Ford approved epoxy primer, per the manufacturer's label instructions. Bake at 140°F (60°C), or use an infra-red lamp for curing.

4. If necessary, mix and apply two-part polyester filler to a slight over crown. Allow polyester filler to cure 20-30 minutes, or mix and apply spray polyester filler two-three (2-3) coats as necessary. Allow to cure per manufacturer's label instructions.

5. Hand-sand the repair area with 80 grit sand paper to remove excess filler.

6. Finish-sand the repair area with 400 grit sand paper.

7. Mix and apply Ford approved primer/surfacer per manufacturer's label instructions. Bake at 140°F (60°C) or use infra-red lamp for curing.

8. Sand the primer/surfacer with 400-600 grit to level the surface.

9. The next two steps are wet-on-wet. Mix and apply to hiding Ford recommended basecoat material per manufacturer's label instructions. Allow to flash.

10. Mix and apply two (2) coats (2 mils minimum) of Ford approved clearcoat per manufacturer's label instructions. Allow flash time. Finish bake at 140°F (60 C).
 
Thanks for the reply. It's not blistering or bubbling, but it wouldn't hurt to make sure this isn't the issue.

Anybody know about the warranty on the paint?
 
I got pics, I hope they show enough detail.

spots 1.jpg


spots 2.jpg


spots 3.jpg
 
SurfjaxLS said:
I detail cars for a living and have encountered this problem several times (now that I see the pics and have your description). Many times, a car will get a contaminent on it such as bird droppings or another chemical. When this happens (depending on the properties of the contaminent), it will seep through the clearcoat and harm the clearcoat itself.

To give you an example of this sort of thing, a customer brought his car in the shop to get detailed and it had a lot of bird droppings on it (some older than others). Some of the newer stains that the droppings left were only able to come out with the use of a heat gun (buffing it did not do a thing). Some of the older stains had ruined the clearcoat and there was nothing that could be done.

If you want to try the heat gun technique, hold the heat gun about 2-4 inches away from the paint and go back and forth with the gun for a few moments (not for too long as you will bubble your paint).

I don't know if this could be the problem with your paint or not without getting a detailed look and feel at it. But, it is worth a shot. Other than that, try claybar or rubbing alcohol. Hope this helps.......but at least now you'll know how to get bird dropping stains out of your paint.
 
It's weird because my car never goes more than 2 weeks at most without being washed. And when the birds are out, I was it once a week. I parked under a tree all school year last year, so maybe some stuff came off of the tree and onto my car.

Would it keep spreading though, even if the crap is gone, or once the paint starts to blemish does it continue?
 

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