Sulfur Smell When Its gunned

O2s can be a little bit of a pain to replace, they are not exactly "easy" to get to but its doable.

Power loss = can be lots. It depends on how degraded they are. I never got a CE or the sulfur smell. I replaced them since I have over 100k. I still noticed big gains.
 
Fuel with a high sulphur content will cause this (cheap gas) or an intermittent rich mixture condition (Air filter plugged, WOT and the ECM going into or being in 'open loop' mode).

A good scanner can give you voltage readings of individual upstream O2 sensors and they should rapidly switch from about .1 volt to .9 with the overall average being .45 volts. I have a Davis CarChip E/X datalogger chip that plugs into a OBD II port and can graph the O2 sensors for voltage and switching rate. These can be found on the internet for $50 to $125 and are nice because you can selectivly monitor different things, like intake temperature, engine temp., fuel pressure, voltage, all kinds of sensor readings (TPS, all O2 sensors, 26 different readings in all).

If you are pre-'96 (OBDI), a good scanner will still give you this information, but it is recommended that O2 sensors be replaced at 60,000 miles for OBDI vehicles. For OBDII (some '95's and '96 up), it's supposed to be done at 100,000 miles. Some people go way beyond that with no problems-it just depends on how the O2's have held up over the years,

The smell is just a symptom of a rich mixture and it indicates that the cat is working as it was designed. If it only happens when cold or when running it really hard, it is probably not a major problem-yet. If you are noticing it all the time, you have to find out why it is running rich. If it is left in this condition, it will eventually cause problems with the cat, very expensive and a PITA to replace since they are actually part of the exhaust manifold. If incorrect gap is causing rough idle, or engine miss, it is causing a rich mixture-unburned fuel. A leaking injector, or possibly a bad coil could also cause a problem. Replacing the O2 sensors will not fix another problem that is causing the rich mixture, but it will try to make the ECM compensate for it.

Being new, they will switch quicker (Os sensors get 'lazy' as they get older). I replaced mine about 2 months ago, was getting a CEL and a code that indicated my bank2 upstream sensor was 'lazy'-switching slow. I had no drivability problems, and I replaced both-saw no difference in gas mileage, and it really runs, to me, no different than it did before I replaced them.

Hope this helps.
 
Fuel with a high sulphur content will cause this (cheap gas) or an intermittent rich mixture condition (Air filter plugged, WOT and the ECM going into or being in 'open loop' mode).

A good scanner can give you voltage readings of individual upstream O2 sensors and they should rapidly switch from about .1 volt to .9 with the overall average being .45 volts. I have a Davis CarChip E/X datalogger chip that plugs into a OBD II port and can graph the O2 sensors for voltage and switching rate. These can be found on the internet for $50 to $125 and are nice because you can selectivly monitor different things, like intake temperature, engine temp., fuel pressure, voltage, all kinds of sensor readings (TPS, all O2 sensors, 26 different readings in all).

If you are pre-'96 (OBDI), a good scanner will still give you this information, but it is recommended that O2 sensors be replaced at 60,000 miles for OBDI vehicles. For OBDII (some '95's and '96 up), it's supposed to be done at 100,000 miles. Some people go way beyond that with no problems-it just depends on how the O2's have held up over the years,

The smell is just a symptom of a rich mixture and it indicates that the cat is working as it was designed. If it only happens when cold or when running it really hard, it is probably not a major problem-yet. If you are noticing it all the time, you have to find out why it is running rich. If it is left in this condition, it will eventually cause problems with the cat, very expensive and a PITA to replace since they are actually part of the exhaust manifold. If incorrect gap is causing rough idle, or engine miss, it is causing a rich mixture-unburned fuel. A leaking injector, or possibly a bad coil could also cause a problem. Replacing the O2 sensors will not fix another problem that is causing the rich mixture, but it will try to make the ECM compensate for it.

Being new, they will switch quicker (Os sensors get 'lazy' as they get older). I replaced mine about 2 months ago, was getting a CEL and a code that indicated my bank2 upstream sensor was 'lazy'-switching slow. I had no drivability problems, and I replaced both-saw no difference in gas mileage, and it really runs, to me, no different than it did before I replaced them.

Hope this helps.

The only gas I have ever ran through my mark is Chevron Premium gas, I no longer have original cats I Have Highflow magnaflow cats, 2.25". I think is time to replace the o2 sensor though. I have notice a power gain with the exhaust system but still a little sluggish for a 32v motor. I will keep you posted.
 
Fuel with a high sulphur content will cause this (cheap gas) or an intermittent rich mixture condition (Air filter plugged, WOT and the ECM going into or being in 'open loop' mode).
Hope this helps.


This only happens at WOT and even then only in 3rd or 4th gear. so in actuallity it could be just fine?
I would think a semi-rich mixture might be a good safegaurd for the engine at 6000 rpm??
 
While were on the topic of o2's.. i'm asking the question that I usually see most people say ya!! and the others say.. NO!!!! Is it safe and not cause any codes to be thrown.. to remove my third cat.. along with the o2's there? Do I need to have the o2's put into the new exhaust pipe or just unplug them and go?
 
The third cat is not monitored, the car will have no clue its missing and there are no O2s associated with that one. Will be fine to remove if needed.
 
I's getting that rotten egg smell until I started using 94 octane. Now I don't even need 94, the 94 seems to have cleaned crap out. If my foot's not on the floor it's cause the cruise control's set.
 
The third cat is not monitored, the car will have no clue its missing and there are no O2s associated with that one. Will be fine to remove if needed.

then you can remove the speedo gear more easily ! bam twofer!
 
I did not read every post so sry if this question has already been ask.
I finshed swaping my trans today(put a t56 in):) sweeeeeeeeeet. but any ways i get a very bad sulfer small too while driving. the o2 sensoners are brand new i am running kooks throw high flow cats so i am not sure if it is becuase the cats a to high flow and dont pick all the crap up? or is it possible that my fual air mixture is off even with the new o2? help!

P.S do you think i just need a tune?
 

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