STS remote turbos??

Dominus said:
I'd love to see it when it's done. This could open up a whole new world for the Mark VIII scene that is tired of the undersized centrifugal blowers.
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Is the T-trim inadequate to get the job done?
 
Oh I looked at the pics. I am not saying it's right, but it's the STS that did the work. So I guess in their opinion it's fine.
 
I'm shooting for 650RWHP. Any more than that, and I'd have to start replacing the half shafts (which are not stock at this time), and generally beefing up the rear end, as well as the front end. I'd still like to be able to drive this car on longer trips. and still have it keep some semblance of the Lincoln ride.
 
Frogman said:
I'm shooting for 650RWHP. Any more than that, and I'd have to start replacing the half shafts (which are not stock at this time), and generally beefing up the rear end, as well as the front end. I'd still like to be able to drive this car on longer trips. and still have it keep some semblance of the Lincoln ride.
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Without nitrous? .. curious on your mileage if NO. I'll be going with an SCT tune so I can have a nitrous/boost tune that I don't have to run on all the time. That way, running outside of boost will create a better 'trip' car. You should consider that.. if you haven't.
 
Do you REALLY think mileage is my main concern here? :p

That's the beauty of turbos. Boost controllers are pretty smart nowadays. On l trips, I can set the wastegates to open at just about any boost, thereby only boosting to whatever I want. Say, 3 psi if I really want mileage.

Without boost, I was getting around 14 instant miles per gallon last week when I took her for a quick spin. So yeah. This ain't gonna be a very fuel efficient car. If I wanted fuel efficiency I would be on the prius forums. :lol:
 
Frogman said:
Do you REALLY think mileage is my main concern here? :p

That's the beauty of turbos. Boost controllers are pretty smart nowadays. On l trips, I can set the wastegates to open at just about any boost, thereby only boosting to whatever I want. Say, 3 psi if I really want mileage.

Without boost, I was getting around 14 instant miles per gallon last week when I took her for a quick spin. So yeah. This ain't gonna be a very fuel efficient car. If I wanted fuel efficiency I would be on the prius forums. :lol:
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also depends on the spring. you can only boost as low as the wastegate allows. my stock actuators in my VR4 have a 6 psi spring. my new turbos have modified actuators with 14 psi springs.
 
m_maker said:
Tbid guy didn't bolt nothing. The system was adapted to the mn-12 directly by STS people at their shop.
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WHAT THE F@&K?

That job wasn't done by some dude in his garage, but by STS themselves? Holy crap I'll shoot them if they ever try to touch my car.
 
Dominus said:
Depends on the "job". ;)
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Que?

Judging by the compressor map on the T-trim, it can get a pretty big job done. Sure, it doesn't have the limitless potential of a couple T-4 frame turbos, but of course, it's also much simpler to install. I have one to pressurize my large pushrod motor, and I'm satisifed that it will do what I want it to do. It made 641 rwhp @ 18 psi on my friend's 331 ci motor with smaller heads/cam/intake than I'm running.
 
I can't believe that STS installed that and then allowed him to put pictures the internet with their name associated. That oil line is rediculous how much more hack can you get. At least some nice anodized an fittings and braided lines would look okay. That setup is straight from the iles of ACE Hardware. The tubing is also fitting and welded very poorly. I would be embarassed to put my name on that.
 
kustomizingkid said:
I can't believe that STS installed that and then allowed him to put pictures the internet with their name associated. That oil line is rediculous how much more hack can you get. At least some nice anodized an fittings and braided lines would look okay. That setup is straight from the iles of ACE Hardware. The tubing is also fitting and welded very poorly. I would be embarassed to put my name on that.
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every single STS kit ive seen has the oil return done like that.
 
Frogman said:
Do you REALLY think mileage is my main concern here? :p

That's the beauty of turbos. Boost controllers are pretty smart nowadays. On l trips, I can set the wastegates to open at just about any boost, thereby only boosting to whatever I want. Say, 3 psi if I really want mileage.

Without boost, I was getting around 14 instant miles per gallon last week when I took her for a quick spin. So yeah. This ain't gonna be a very fuel efficient car. If I wanted fuel efficiency I would be on the prius forums. :lol:
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Lol it must be nice for mileage not to be a concern! I'm hoping for 20 avg mpg on NA tune, with 550-600 rwhp on tap, on nitrous. I'll be running highway gears, however. In houston races are generally from a roll, not looking for a track/dig car. I'm anxious to see if I can meet those goals.
 
vr4 said:
every single STS kit ive seen has the oil return done like that.
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And they are still in buisness??? That kind of hack work belongs on things like my grandpas 1949 Farmall Trator. I just can't beleive that they took a picture specifically of that. It's like saying; "Were charging you thousands of dollars to turbo charge your car using only supplys that can be bought at the hardware store."

If I saw that on a car they were working on I would be walking out the door. I wouldn't trust them to change my oil.
 
Yeah.. I miss Houston..alot..

I grew up there.. It's where I learned to drive.. and to drive.


Where do you run over there? Richmond? Westheimer?

Those are the places in the downtown area that I used to hear of people dragging..
 
Dr. Paul said:
Que?

Judging by the compressor map on the T-trim, it can get a pretty big job done. Sure, it doesn't have the limitless potential of a couple T-4 frame turbos, but of course, it's also much simpler to install. I have one to pressurize my large pushrod motor, and I'm satisifed that it will do what I want it to do. It made 641 rwhp @ 18 psi on my friend's 331 ci motor with smaller heads/cam/intake than I'm running.
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The simplicity and the potential of the V-Trim is certainly not laghable, and very useful and effective, but those looking for a fatter powerband and more power will find a couple of turbos a hell of a lot better.

One particular setup I saw recently was a pair of GT3037s on a Mustang that tossed out 1000HP at 16 psi. It was a complete street car, and made full boost by 3200 rpm.
 
kustomizingkid said:
And they are still in buisness??? That kind of hack work belongs on things like my grandpas 1949 Farmall Trator. I just can't beleive that they took a picture specifically of that. It's like saying; "Were charging you thousands of dollars to turbo charge your car using only supplys that can be bought at the hardware store."

If I saw that on a car they were working on I would be walking out the door. I wouldn't trust them to change my oil.
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That's how they stay in business. $4000 for crappy components that are easy to install. God only knows how much to install a turbo system that is probably easier to do than an exhaust system. Actually, easier, since they aren't adding a muffler, or even touching the headers.

Then, your new STS owner goes out there are enjoys horsepower. Why? Because anyone buying an STS system does not care about how they make the power. They just want it. You think it matters to an STS owner that their kit looks like it was put together by children? Nope.
 
Dominus said:
The simplicity and the potential of the V-Trim is certainly not laghable, and very useful and effective, but those looking for a fatter powerband and more power will find a couple of turbos a hell of a lot better.

One particular setup I saw recently was a pair of GT3037s on a Mustang that tossed out 1000HP at 16 psi. It was a complete street car, and made full boost by 3200 rpm.
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There's no question that a pair of turbos would be my choice given no budgetary constraints. I'm just saying that it's not fair to say that "This could open up a whole new world for the Mark VIII scene that is tired of the undersized centrifugal blowers." There are very few blown marks, and even fewer making serious horsepower. I don't think there is a large contingent of Mark VIII owners saying "Dang I wish my stupid blower could make 1000 horsepower."

See what I mean?
 
blk96LSC said:
Yeah.. I miss Houston..alot..

I grew up there.. It's where I learned to drive.. and to drive.


Where do you run over there? Richmond? Westheimer?

Those are the places in the downtown area that I used to hear of people dragging..
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No.. Cops troll Westheimer heavily now unfortuneately. There's too many things on W, too much attention. .. I won't tell you what roads, but watch this maybe you can figure it out. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuYJaZrsiuk&eurl=

Definately the best city in the world for cars. People don't even know.. not even the people that live here.
 
poniesviii said:
No.. Cops troll Westheimer heavily now unfortuneately. There's too many things on W, too much attention. .. I won't tell you what roads, but watch this maybe you can figure it out. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuYJaZrsiuk&eurl=

Definately the best city in the world for cars. People don't even know.. not even the people that live here.
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Now that was a PHAT video! it was sick!:cool:
 
turborich said:
Now that was a PHAT video! it was sick!:cool:
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#2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olzJ5JVMNo

there was some news coverage on street racing in houston, so it's quieted down.. less seen vids are kept more discreet. These two vids have been on YouTube for quite awhile so, what the hell. These are OLD. Nothing New. Some of these cars are 700+ rwhp.
 
I moved before I was into the scene!

Now I wish I still lived there!!

lol..

Though, I've met alot of D/FW guys and I hang out with them now..

And I've got a pretty good idea of where it's at. :)
 
Dr. Paul said:
There's no question that a pair of turbos would be my choice given no budgetary constraints. I'm just saying that it's not fair to say that "This could open up a whole new world for the Mark VIII scene that is tired of the undersized centrifugal blowers." There are very few blown marks, and even fewer making serious horsepower. I don't think there is a large contingent of Mark VIII owners saying "Dang I wish my stupid blower could make 1000 horsepower."

See what I mean?
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My comment was specifically concerning those who were looking for major horsepower, with lower boost pressures. Never meant to imply that this was a worldwide issue for a major amount of people, and I don't think I did. So let's just leave it at that.
 
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