stock muffler welded or clamped on?

excel8927

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Im trying to replace one of my mufflers, it looks clamped on but i can't get it off. Is it also welded on? 1987 lincoln towncar all original
 
Im trying to replace one of my mufflers, it looks clamped on but i can't get it off. Is it also welded on? 1987 lincoln towncar all original

well chances are if its clamped,its going to be a pita to take off, its als prob rusted on there too.
 

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