So which way to go? Eibach or Jag Suspension?

Which suspension to get?

  • Eibach

    Votes: 9 69.2%

  • S type R

    Votes: 4 30.8%
  • Total voters
    13
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So I've read through some of the threads talking about this. The Eibachs go right on of course, but so do the Jag S type R shocks and springs and stuff right? So which would be the way to go? I definitely want my LS to be a inch or two lower and it sounds like they both do this so would their be a performance benefit to going with the S type R setup over the Eibachs?
 
Eibachs are way cheaper. A jag suspension will run you over a grand.
 
Bilstein shocks surely cost more than $500 on their own.
 
I believe the only way this would be an upgrade is if you went with the Bilstein shocks over the factory shocks. The Bilsteins are expensive. And you are correct, all you need is is the shocks and springs. If money is no concern then go with the S-type suspension. If money is a concern stay with the LS parts.
 
hite337 said:
I believe the only way this would be an upgrade is if you went with the Bilstein shocks over the factory shocks. The Bilsteins are expensive. And you are correct, all you need is is the shocks and springs. If money is no concern then go with the S-type suspension. If money is a concern stay with the LS parts.
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What he said :)

There is probably a difference between the LS Sport/Euro shocks and the 2000-2003 STR shocks but it is probably not huge. Bilsteins would probably be a noticeable change but whether that is good or bad is up for debate and depends on who is driving.

I'd probably just go with springs if your primary concern is dropping the ride height.
 
Jaguars are famous for their ride/handling compromise. Lexus bought a few jags to study them when they were launching Lexus. Bilsteins are the best shocks you can buy. The Jaguar S type R will be a much better ride and probably better handling. I agree with the above posts, the jaguar will be the best but the Eibachs will be cheaper. In my opinion the Jaguar (Bilstein) will be worth it.
 
Nothing wrong with starting with the Eibachs. If you find that you do not like them, you can always sell them and then move up. Springs usually sell relatively easily. Put the money you save now toward the wheels you want.
 
SteveSC said:
Jaguars are famous for their ride/handling compromise. Lexus bought a few jags to study them when they were launching Lexus. Bilsteins are the best shocks you can buy. The Jaguar S type R will be a much better ride and probably better handling. I agree with the above posts, the jaguar will be the best but the Eibachs will be cheaper. In my opinion the Jaguar (Bilstein) will be worth it.
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There are too many subjective things to consider when comparing ride and handling. The biggest one being the person driving the car. My advice would be to climb into a 2000-2002 STR (NOT a 2003-2005 STR) and see if there is a difference that you like. Until then, claiming the jag setup the best is meaningless. The only other option is to try it and gauge the results for yourself with the acceptance that it might be worse in your own opinion.

Should the jag set-up handle better? Presumably yes, but to what extent is unknown since the Jag and LS are not 100% identical platforms. The problem with just saying that it is better or the best is people will expect a night and day difference. In reality it could turn out to be an extra 0.01 G in the skidpad and 0.1 or 0.2 seconds through a slalom. If that cost you $1000, the question then becomes if the juice is worth the squeeze.

Since his scenario seems to be bang for the buck, I would still recommend investing in a decent set of performance springs like the H&R or Eibachs. That along might give him most of what he wants in the ride and handling department.
 
Well yeah, I've decided to go with the Eibachs. I dont really need the increased handling performance so just a lowering will be nice. Thanks for the information guys. Got it from another member here so thats always nice
 
and from what I've read the Eibachs "do" need to be cut in order to get that lowered effect.

correct ?

Also, any problem just lowering the front only ?
seems to me the rear end is sitting lower then the front anyhow ... no ?
 
Kumba said:
There are too many subjective things to consider when comparing ride and handling. The biggest one being the person driving the car. My advice would be to climb into a 2000-2002 STR (NOT a 2003-2005 STR) and see if there is a difference that you like. Until then, claiming the jag setup the best is meaningless. The only other option is to try it and gauge the results for yourself with the acceptance that it might be worse in your own opinion.

Should the jag set-up handle better? Presumably yes, but to what extent is unknown since the Jag and LS are not 100% identical platforms. The problem with just saying that it is better or the best is people will expect a night and day difference. In reality it could turn out to be an extra 0.01 G in the skidpad and 0.1 or 0.2 seconds through a slalom. If that cost you $1000, the question then becomes if the juice is worth the squeeze.

Since his scenario seems to be bang for the buck, I would still recommend investing in a decent set of performance springs like the H&R or Eibachs. That along might give him most of what he wants in the ride and handling department.
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As far as I know there was no STR from 00-02. Str's were made 03-08
 
BigRigLS said:
and from what I've read the Eibachs "do" need to be cut in order to get that lowered effect.

correct ?

Also, any problem just lowering the front only ?
seems to me the rear end is sitting lower then the front anyhow ... no ?
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The Eibachs lower the LS but some people like to cut for even more effect. The general lower is like 1.5" without a cut if I remember correctly.
 
Are there issues with rubbing when carrying a total of 4 people? As in at highway speeds if you hit a dip? I travel at times with a full load and the sound of rubbing would drive me crazy.
 
BigRigLS said:
and from what I've read the Eibachs "do" need to be cut in order to get that lowered effect.

correct ?

Also, any problem just lowering the front only ?
seems to me the rear end is sitting lower then the front anyhow ... no ?
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I have Eibachs in the front only and have no issues. I like the look better. The rear doesn't sit lower with factory springs, its the wheel well cutouts that make it look that way. That's why I only did the fronts
 
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Interesting way of looking at it Hite. Make a lot of sense. Especially to me who worries about rear rubbing. Hmmm.
 
I have the Eibachs on mine with a 245 tire. 3 weeks ago I drove on vacation to Hilton Head with the family of 4 (my youngest 16) and the only time I experienced a rub was at high speed,( 80 mph) and I hit a dip in the road or a crest at a bridge and the car experienced some bounce. The rub would occur every time after the car was propelled upward and came down with force.

All in all, I only experienced this 4 times or so, and on all of those it was on the way home, (the wife got stuck in every tourist shop so the car was loaded heavier on the way back).

I really like the ride height and quality of the Eibachs! but my shocks have low mileage also.
 
marcredd said:
Are there issues with rubbing when carrying a total of 4 people? As in at highway speeds if you hit a dip? I travel at times with a full load and the sound of rubbing would drive me crazy.
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Hrmm... I want to get sentas eventually. Guess I'll have to avoid having 4 people in my car lol
 
I have 285 35 18's out back with Eibachs. There is a horrible bridge joint that I drive over every day while accelerating out of the on-ramp. The suspension completely bottoms out if you are on the throttle trying to merge, but the tires have never rubbed the fenders.
 
marcredd said:
Are there issues with rubbing when carrying a total of 4 people? As in at highway speeds if you hit a dip? I travel at times with a full load and the sound of rubbing would drive me crazy.
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Depends on wheel offset and width. I experience absolutely no rubbing with my Tucana wheels (50mm offset, 18x8.5), but regular rubbing with my old Voxx wheels (40mm offset, 18x8). I didn't get any rub from my last wheels, either (still for sale, by the way). They are MB GTR wheels, 18x7.5 with a 45mm offset. Tires on all wheels were 245/45/18. I am now sucessfully running a 255/40/18 tire on the Tucanas.
 
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