Really, SCT is better? Is that why my car ran a 9.6 1/8 mile bone stock compared to your SCT tuned Mark VIII which ran a what 9.7-9.8?
Sniper Tune Problems
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Really, SCT is better? Is that why my car ran a 9.6 1/8 mile bone stock compared to your SCT tuned Mark VIII which ran a what 9.7-9.8?
kustomizingkid
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Spinning off the line with a very inexperienced driver behind the seat and in need of a tune up.... good comparison!
kustomizingkid
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BTW 98LSC.... was that your 95 or 98 that ran that 9.60 stock?
Both the 95 LSC and my base 96 ran 9.6 bone stock. The 95 LSC might have had mufflers on it. My 98 never ran it bone stock... with just a tune and mufflers it ran 9.5 I think, gotta recheck. But my point is not comparing times but trying to squash the notion that SCT is superior tuning compared to Sniper. I've had both and am quite satisifed with my Sniper Tune.
unity
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Um... I may be a novice at tuning, but even I know a proper tune comes down to the person tuning. And when it comes to software the Pro Racer package is the most versatile (and trouble free) to make the best tune.
The brand of the software makes no difference in how the tune works.
Ok... valid point.
NOW.. you post your very first and second timeslips from your very first trip to the track.
YOU want to compare your "best ever" passes with brandons first 4 passes EVER?
Brandon ran within .1 of my ET on his SECOND PASS EVER.
With some seat time...he's gonna be a helluva bracket racer.
HE WON ROUND 1 in a very VERY competitive Jackpot race, om his THIRD PASS EVER.
He, Glen and I were the ONLY "street cars" in the class.
brandon was the ONLY one that WON round 1.
You didn't have SCT tuning program, you had an SCT tune.
Now you want to compared a "canned sct tune" to a custom tune you wrote in sniper?
wait.. and you couldn't even get the speed limiter off, you had to have "HELP".
I can put a absolute N00b in front of SCT and in 10 seconds they will have NO speed limiter and they dont have to "BEG" patrick to fix it for them
Try to compare apples to apples, not apples to applesauce.
Jerry said way back when that his 11 year old daughter could tune with SCT.
But lookie here.. full grown MEN need help with sniper because the interface has "access" to LESS parameters than the SCT stuff does.
I know you really REALLY like doing things different than the crowd.
But your comments are very very biased.
yea it REALLY is.
Lux
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Which sct is the one to use?
Do you use a laptop, handheld, or can you do both?
Where is the cheapest place to get one online?
Thanks
Im still up in the air about sct or sniper and trying to have a tune on it by the 4th..comments welcomed.
Do you use a laptop, handheld, or can you do both?
Where is the cheapest place to get one online?
Thanks
Im still up in the air about sct or sniper and trying to have a tune on it by the 4th..comments welcomed.
the Advantage 3.0 software is 329.00
the flash device depending on where you get it, new they are almost 400.00
most sct dealers can get you both the flasher and the software for right AT the prices listed above.
you "could" pick up a used Xcal 2 on ebay, but there are risks associated with used devices.
NOw...if you want to HAVE the car tuned by the 4th.
you really aren't gonna be able to do that yourself, with EITHER SCT or SNIPER...especially with the level of support seen from the sniper crowd.
If your back is against the wall, you should contact Lonnie at Blue oval chips and get him to send you everything you need, which should include a tune file.
Lux
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So its like 700 bones for the sct stuff?
Ive seen the handhelds on ebay for 3-400..would i need both?
why couldnt i tune the sniper by myself by the 4th?
My car isnt fast enough to trap 110 in the 1/4 yet, so that wont be an issue (ran 93mph last time when stock) and pat at sniper supposably fixed this, so when i got that fast it wouldnt be much to fix that.
Sorry for the noob questions but i dont have the slightest when it comes the obd2 and the software.
Basically, all i want to do is optimize the potential for power i already have, and be able to change parameters (gears, nitrous, whatever) at my house with ease and i believe both can do that...
Thanks for all the help. Your a valuable asset to the lincoln community.
Ive seen the handhelds on ebay for 3-400..would i need both?
why couldnt i tune the sniper by myself by the 4th?
My car isnt fast enough to trap 110 in the 1/4 yet, so that wont be an issue (ran 93mph last time when stock) and pat at sniper supposably fixed this, so when i got that fast it wouldnt be much to fix that.
Sorry for the noob questions but i dont have the slightest when it comes the obd2 and the software.
Basically, all i want to do is optimize the potential for power i already have, and be able to change parameters (gears, nitrous, whatever) at my house with ease and i believe both can do that...
Thanks for all the help. Your a valuable asset to the lincoln community.
unity
Dedicated LVC Member
An XCal 2 can be had for cheap on eBay. You can send it in, for about $100, to SCT to have it unlocked. Why? With most flash devices, once they are used on a car they are locked to it. So once used on one car you cant use it on another. Now maybe Tommy can chime in on this, but I think if the owner reverted his/her vehicle back to stock with the device its unlocked again?
The software you can not get around with price though. I paid full for it and after having an SCT chip (paid $310), I think this is the best thing I ever bought for the Mark.
The used (once) XCalibrator 2 I picked up for about $70.
The software you can not get around with price though. I paid full for it and after having an SCT chip (paid $310), I think this is the best thing I ever bought for the Mark.
The used (once) XCalibrator 2 I picked up for about $70.
NYC LS8
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Yes if the previous owner put the car back to stock, the thing is unlocked and can be used elsewhere. If it's locked, it's $150 to unlock it from what I've seen.
htrdlincoln98
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WOW I missed alot since last on. AS for sniper yes the limiter is now off on my tune but, I'm not sure what the deal is with this tune yet. It should be the exact same tune as i had before except the rev and speed limit deleted. Yes now the rev limiter is deleted not to work again. When I make tunes now I leave those options at stock and they are deleted. I'm not sure the tune is the same other than the the items mentioned before. I will have to check times at the track. And yes if anyone is to get sniper they would have the same problem as me. No update is be made and posted on their site that I know of. You will have to request help. All and all I am very pleased with the performance gains from the software. I will inform when I know more.
kustomizingkid
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Here is the final thing I will say in the sCT vs Sniper debate...
When I make a change in my tune in SCT, good bad or otherwise that change is always made....
When I make a change in my tune in SCT, good bad or otherwise that change is always made....
Lux
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Just ordered a sniper so we'll see how it works.
Main thing was the cost, gf wants one for her car so i'll just split the cost and give her a bullet. When it no longer accomplishes what i need I might step up to sct but in the mean time it should do fine.
Main thing was the cost, gf wants one for her car so i'll just split the cost and give her a bullet. When it no longer accomplishes what i need I might step up to sct but in the mean time it should do fine.
unity
Dedicated LVC Member
Again, if you knew anything about tuning its not about the "brand" of tune, its about controlling parameters.
Lux
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Thanks man. Is there a preset tune that you use, did you make your own tune, or did you get sent a tune?
I registered to the sniperforum and im gonna ask pat to send me whatever i need to fix the speed limiter problem.
Also, would it be a bad idea to jack up the shift firmness without doing the JMOD stuff first? I have all the stuff to do the jmod just didnt want to screw anything up by being impatient.
I have a custom base tune from Pat which you can't use because you have a different catch code. And then off the base tune you build your Sniper tune with special forces. Pretty straight forward. I would set my shift firmness at "firm". You don't have to have the j-mod to use increased line pressure but I would make sure you have some fresh fluid in the tranny. I have it set to "race" but I would not reccomend this on a non 98 tranny unless it's built. You can fine tune the timing and air fuel tables but I wouldn't do it unless you have access to a dyno. Just run the tune sniper builds you, should pick up at least 2 tenths with it...
Thanks for implying I know nothing about tuning. And thanks for enlightning me with your words of wisdom.
Thanks for implying I know nothing about tuning. And thanks for enlightning me with your words of wisdom.
what he said is absolutely 100% correct.
try not to be such a cry baby when people dont swing from your nuts..m'kay?
I'm not a sniper hater, it's just a "hobbled program" that gives the user NOT ALL the access they need.
Now your here, cheerleading people into buying something that "didn't work right for you", clearly by your posts on the sniper forum.
It did not work right out of the box, you needed a LOT of "hand holding" to get your tune done.
NOw that patrick SPOON FED you your tuning, you think your experienced enough to "help others"?
That's a laugh
Rather than admit your mistake and move forward, you would rather drag more people down your little pigeon hole.
GOOD JOB!
unity
Dedicated LVC Member
Why not just have them send you the values so you can just load them up onto your base file? Sniper can at least do that, right?