sKerry appears to have cheated during the debate

[MonsterMark]

Ah yes, more from the lying scumbag.

I have to run so I'll make this brief.

It appears Sen. sKerry brought 'footnotes' to the debate. Clearly in violation of the rules of the debate. Which explains why he pretended to be writing notes every time Bush was speaking. What he was actually doing was reading his notes so he could stay on message and make his Carville attack points.

We are attempting to capture the screenshot of him pulling out the paper from his inside lapel pocket.

If anybody can help, go to the C-SPAN video and capture a screenshot of it. For some reason I can't. It happens about 2:07 into the tape. We are also attempting to screen any additional footage after the debate to see who approaches the podium to remove the evidence.

Story developing...

The guy is the most despicable character in my human memory. sKeery is forcing me to have nightmares now. He is the central character in my nightmares. I can't get him out. Somebody please tell me that they have had enough of this P.O.S. and you are switching your vote to Bush so this nightmare of mine can end. Somebody please, please help. I'm drowning in disgust and contempt for this man.

 

[barry2952]

What country will you go live in when Kerry gets elected?

 

[MonsterMark]

What country will you go live in when Kerry gets elected?

Wherever it is not radioactive.

I just call a spade a spade. And scumbag cheater seems to fit pretty well. Go to C-Span and see the video yourself. 2:07-2:09. The go read the rules of the debate. Then come back and tell me it doesn't matter, which I am sure many will.

Say it with me. Anybody but Bush. Anybody but Bush. Anybody but Bush. Here, have another cup of Kerry Kool-Aid.

Putting one's head in the sand during this critical juncture in our nation's history won't make the truth go away.

 

[Joeychgo]

First, im going to ask everyone to tone down the rehetoric a bit. Calling a candidate a liar or coward or whatever COULD be some kind of legal thing - like slander.... Plus, IMO, it diminishes the strength of the argument. THis isnt directed toward anyone in particular, we've all gotton a little heated here n there. Lets keep out arguments intelligent and adult.


Second.

Anybody but Bush!

That said.

I can see your drowning Bryan, but please. Cheating? "Story developing..." Developing where? Ive checked the drudge report, cnbc, cnn, fox, the washington post and did a google search, nothing. Cant find anything - so where is this story developing?

Beyond that, here's a little data -- The Election appears to hinge on just a few states - If Kerry can get a few of these he will probably win -Ohio (voted dem 2 of last 3 elections), Penn (who voted dem last 3 elections), and FL (who voted dem 2 of last 3 elections and nearly did the last time, funny GW's brother is the gov there)-- There are a handful of lessor states like MN, IA, OR and Wisconsen who voted Dem the last 3 elections) Basically, most of the "toss up" states have been decidedly dem for decades.

I think Kerry is gonna pull it off, albeit it'll be close.

 

[MonsterMark]

First, im going to ask everyone to tone down the rehetoric a bit. Calling a candidate a liar or coward or whatever COULD be some kind of legal thing - like slander....

Hey, I agree. If some people don't refer (ahem) to President Bush as a moron, some of us won't refer to pretender sKerry as a scumbag. Deal?

As far as the lying part, I won't back off of that. I have posted conclusive proof on this board that shows Kerry to be a liar. Their is nothing slanderous or libelous about the truth. In fact, Senator Kerry can sue me, because then I can ask the court to order him to release his records to prove me wrong. I'll take that chance. It is just that cut and dried for me. I stand by it. Sign the 180 form Senator Kerry and reveal yourself.

All the rest is in good political fun.

Can you imagine if you were supporting Bush and then seeing this evidence? I want to see this in a RNC commercial. Video of Kerry pulling out his cheat-sheet while the voice-over says, 'Can we really trust this guy, opps, guess not'.

The guy is a nut job.
He gets a manicure before a debate.
He wears a hair weave and then brags about his handsome hair.
He has rouge(sp) and lipstick on during the debate.
He wears spray-on tans while claiming to have gotten it during a 1 hour football game.
He dyes his hair.
He has caps on his teeth.

There is nothing real about this guy, nothing.

I may tone it down a bit, but this guy needs to be exposed and the Main Stream Media is not doing its job. So it leaves the rest of us having to rant and rave because the playing is not level, and hasn't been for 40 years.

 

[MonsterMark]

I can see your drowning Bryan, but please. Cheating? "Story developing..." Developing where? Ive checked the drudge report, cnbc, cnn, fox, the washington post and did a google search, nothing. Cant find anything - so where is this story developing?

I am a shepherd, not a sheep. I lead, I do not follow. I trust in my instincts. I don't take anybody's word as the explicite truth. So I seek the truth. I dig. I ask questions. I communicate with others seeking the same truths that I seek.

I try to share here many things that the majority of our board will never see or be aware of. I'm not hunched down on the grassy knoll, I am right out in front. Take your best shot.

Take the time to look into the soul of the man you are supporting.
Go pray on your decision.
Ask the Lord to provide you the light to see clearly.
Put your pre-conceived biases and prejudices aside.
Cleanse your mind.
Start over.
Ask yourself, which guy do I want in office protecting me as I lay my head down to sleep?
Which guy cares more about us than he does himself?
Which guy will do everything they can to make sure the inevitable doesn't happen?

Only then will you be truly untethered to make this decision.

 

[97silverlsc]

Bush was cheating too, he had crib notes on the kleenex he was weeping into and wiping the sweat of defeat off his face with.

:F

 

[RRocket]

Bush has never lied???? If lying were the barometer of how fit one is to govern, Bush should have been impeached long ago...I'm continually amazed when people are outraged when a politician lies.....Newsflash to Bryan **THEY ALL LIE** What it comes down to in the end, is who the better liar is....

 

[MonsterMark]

**THEY ALL LIE** What it comes down to in the end, is who the better liar is....

Wow. I love the standard and if that is true, we might as well turn the government 100% to the Democrats, because they got that part down to a science.

Sometimes I just can't believe what I read.

 

[RRocket]

Bryan...do you honeslty believe in your heart that Bush has never lied with regards to politics??????? I can't believe what I read from you sometimes...

 

[barry2952]

Talk about blindly following a candidate. How sad.

You really should get a life Bryan.

 

[Joeychgo]

Hmmm lets see....

We went to war with Iraq because they had WMD -- wait, no, thats not it...
We went to war with Iraq because they were harboring AL Qaida - wait, no, thats not it..
We went to war with Iraq because they were a threat to others in the region..wait, no, thats not it...
We went to war with Iraq because they -- wait - anyone know why?

Talk about lies and flip flops..........

 

[driller]

Talk about blindly following a candidate. How sad.

Most Bush supporters I know feel as I do. The man says what he believes and believes what he says. Has been, is and will be. How that can be misconstrued as lying is beyond me. Stubborn, yes; liar, no.

You believe Kerry? Yesterday? Today? Tomorrow?

I apologize, but exactly which Kerry am I to believe? The war hero or war protester? The primary candidate or the convention nominee? The promising talk of legislation to come or his voting record as Senator?

I do not blindly follow a candidate. I have certain disagreements with my President. But I honestly cannot fathom Kerry as President. Then again, I did not see Clinton as anything more than a savvy politician, and he obviously was.

My real fear is the next election cycle. I cannot see a likely contender in the Republican ranks to take over control. However, the Democrats have several standing in the wings, all chanting the same tired rhetoric.

 

[Joeychgo]

Debate Facts vs Bush fantasy

DEBATE FACT: Afghanistan Voter Registration
Bush talked about 10 million registered voters in Afghanistan.

But: United Nations officials overseeing the elections admit that more than 10 million voting cards have been issued surpassing the estimated 9.8 million eligible voters.

"Probably there is a lot of multiple registering," U.N. spokesperson Manoel de Almeida e Silva said yesterday.



Hunt down terrorists
1. Bush: you gotta have a president who'll persue the terrorists

But:
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, responding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

 

[MonsterMark]

Driller: Excellent post. You hit the nail on the head with a 10 lb sledge. These guys can't explain one position Kerry has. And if he has one, I can almost guarantee you I can find a quote where he said the exact opposite.

Barry: Blindly follow?... X quz m wa? I have a choice between supporting a man or a mouse. I choose with all my conviction to support the man. Is that wrong?

Get a life?... I'm just trying to save yours, mine, my kids and everybody I know from the disaster waiting to happen named JFK.

Joey: We found Saddam in a hole. Bin Laden is either buried in a cave or hiding in somebody's hut. You want him so bad, grow a beard and hop a plane. You Italians could fit right in as camel jockeys.:N

Ron: After you explain what is is, I'll get back to you :sleep:on your query about the art of Democratic vs Republican lying.

Anybody else? Bring it on!!! I got all night.

We should make the political forum a Pay-Per-View event because its Smack-Down Time baby.

 

[MonsterMark]

My real fear is the next election cycle. I cannot see a likely contender in the Republican ranks to take over control.

You know that McCain is the lead contender, don't you. Followed by Guliani.

 

[RRocket]

Just like a Republican, Bryan..you have yet to answer my question. So I'll ask a 2nd time.(please remove blinders so you can see this time). "DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE BUSH HAS NEVER LIED, BEFORE BEING PRESIDENT, AND AFTER BEING ELECTED WITH REGARDS TO POLITICS".


Oh..and you didn't "find" Saddam. You were tipped off (by a supposed relative of his) that he was in the hole even after the military had inspected the property I believe 3 times prior without finding him....You definitely did not "find" him.

 

[Joeychgo]

You Italians could fit right in as camel jockeys.

Geno, Ray -- You see this? I need you guys out here asap, we got some business with this irishman now.....

 

[MonsterMark]

Geno, Ray -- You see this? I need you guys out here asap, we got some business with this irishman now.....

That would be German/Irish/Italianman. And you'll need all 3 of you.

 

[RRocket]

That's right, Bryan...your silence proves what we all know...Bush is a liar too....When you get around to it, answer my question....

 

[Joeychgo]

Anybody but Bush!
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Anybody but Bush!

 

[MonsterMark]

"DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE BUSH HAS NEVER LIED, BEFORE BEING PRESIDENT, AND AFTER BEING ELECTED WITH REGARDS TO POLITICS".

Would it make you happy if I asked President Bush to step into the confessional and ask for forgiveness for the time he 'borrowed the pack of juicy-fruit' and didn't bring it back? Would that make you happy?

Oh..and you didn't "find" Saddam. You were tipped off (by a supposed relative of his) that he was in the hole even after the military had inspected the property I believe 3 times prior without finding him....You definitely did not "find" him.

If you wish to diminish the accomplishments of the US military in finding a man willing to hide 8 feet underground in a 3ft x 5 ft rat hole, smack dab in the middle of 167,000 square miles, go ahead. Make your day.

 

[MonsterMark]

That's right, Bryan...your silence proves what we all know...Bush is a liar too....When you get around to it, answer my question....

According to you, Kerry should win hands down. After all, your liar is a bigger liar than my liar.

 

[RRocket]

Sorry to ruin your day with the realization that Bush is a liar. My bad.

Oh..and EVERYONE in the military wanted to be the 1st to find Saddam. They were at the property several times and had NO CLUE he was there. Facts is facts. My facts don't diminish anything....



Nope..it just goes back to my initail post with regards to yours: I'm perplexed when people are actually shocked that a politician would lie.....LOL

 

[MonsterMark]

Facts is facts. My facts don't diminish anything....

I guess I am confused, again. I think Saddam is living in a prison cell. I think before that he was hiding. Therefore, and you know I am not a smart guy, somebody must have 'found' him. That again is the only fact that matters. True?