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Just finished doing the wheel wells and doors. I removed wheel wells and sprayed with 4 coats of undercoating. The parts were then wraped with a product called peel and seal. It's a roof flashing product that consists of a foil backing with a 1/16" layer of rubber. The door panels were removed and OEM soundproofing removed. Pieced in sections till panel was covered. The door interiors were also covered after removing the plastic OEM soundproofing . Did not do the inside of the exterior door panel but I guess it wouldn't hurt. What a difference! P.I.A to do but well worth it. If it ever cools down I will be pulling the rug up to do the floor pan and under the back seat. Once the cabin is complete I will do the trunk.
Peel and Seal is sold at Lowes and there is a you tube video called called "A cheap alternitive to dynamat"
 
FYI- peel and seal is nothing like a traditional butyl based sound damper. peel and seal is asphalt based, and sucks. It was a PIA to remove from my trunk lid to apply real sound damping material (I used Second Skin Damplifier Pro). I had some dynamat extreme on the lid as well. A quick shot of detarring spray (I used AUtosmart Tardis), and the PnS liquified and wiped easily away. NO rubber in that product. The dynamat didn't budge, so it stayed on under the second skin.
 
Sorry to offend you

Hi Pektel
Sorry you had a bad exp with this product. Hope you fixed frame failure.
You seem very angry!
 
I'd read an article where this guy used wood floor underlay as a soundproofing, and he claimed that it made a big difference in sound quality in his car. I have a roll I plan to try in my Silverado, which is pretty loud on its own. I'll report back after it's done but it'll be a few months before I get to it. Have a new stereo system I'll be installing when I do this.
 
Im more than happy with my results using peel and seal. Im sorry to hear Pektel didn't have luck removing it. I think it's a one time deal. I just rebuilt the whole suspension spending more than 4k on parts. After all work was done I still felt the suspension felt harsh. I will cont.to soundproof the vehicle. Its night and day. This is a good upgrade for the price.

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ektal; please post the cons with this product.
 
How is the smell? As I recall that product smells like asphalt. Am I mistaken or does your car smell like it has been working on a road crew all day (especially in this heat)?
 
REDBED said:
Im sorry to hear Pektel didn't have luck removing it.
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I think you mis understood him, it was the dynamat that could not be removed.

pektel said:
A quick shot of detarring spray (I used AUtosmart Tardis), and the PnS liquified and wiped easily away. NO rubber in that product. The dynamat didn't budge,
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REDBED said:
ektal; please post the cons with this product.
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as mentioned, its asphalt based, and like the cheap original dnyamat. pound for pound, it is no where near as efficient at deadening noise as butyl based product.

while yes I'm sure it made a huge difference, using a product that was designed exactly for that purpose, yields much better results.
 
no smell its inert rubber with an adhesieve backing. If you feel better buy the dynamat.
 
I think the vibration damping of this material is excellent vs the cost. I look foward to 1loudLs reply as a cost efective material for sound automotive dampining. Was thinking about using firestop mat. to do the front interior fenders. I think I can do the whole job for under @150 in mat. G.L.T.A

P.S. Everybody who replied sounds very angry. Just trying to offer a low cost solution to an upgrade/project. Wow
 
Didn't mean to sound angry (although this heat can make one cranky). Asphalt was mentioned and that is the last thing I wanted to smell in my car.
The reviews from Lowes.com are right in line with yours for the Peel & Seal rubberized flashing. Glad to hear you had success with this product. Thanks for sharing your results.
:Beer
 
Hi N8
If you have a day to kill this is great improvement. You wont believe how nice the LS can feel. All for $100 bucks. GLTA
 
why does anybody sound angry?

people tend to YELL A LOT when they are angry.

i havent really seen a lot of yelling going on

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Hi 1loudls
Care to post a Cite?
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you mean like the Lowes website where in the specifications, it says rubberized asphalt, just like the old dynamat from twenty years ago?

http://www.lowes.com/pd_154017-8132...L=?Ns=p_product_qty_sales_dollar|1&facetInfo=

or how i have seen first hand how big of a difference the old crap and the new hottness can be? I even agreed with you that I'm sure it did make a big difference (it is after all very similar to the original dynamat, so this should be expected) however it should be noted that as most things do, materials have progressed over the years, and if bringing down the road noise is your goal, then there are other alternatives that quiet better, with less material (and weight) I'm mean if it worked as good as dynamat (or any other brand) they wouldn't have changed everything about it.

sorry, while this may be a "cheap alternative to dynamat" a focus is a cheap alternative to a LS, but something tells me that its just not the same.

but worry not, no one is upset here :cool:
 
i use earplugs... they work very well, the only downside is sometimes i find myself in the path of some big a$$ fire trucks... jk... im gonna try fat mat 80mil 200 ft mostly for music quality improvement.. i plan to do the whole cars interior eventually so i know i'll need more than that
 
Not angry in the least. You posted a thread with incorrect information. And you were coaxing other members to try it too. I was simply setting the facts straight so other members make a correct, informed decision.

Asphalt based products are FAR inferior to butyl based products. LoudLS has already pointed that out too.
 
And a site to cite:

www.secondskinaudio.com

Check out the FAQ's. There is an excellent comparison somewhere too. I'll put up a link Monday once I'm at a normal computer
 
On a flat 'low point' surface (ie: floor not roof) it might work OK -added mass lowering resonant frequency, but a vertical surface can cause peeling issues when it gets hot

Expanding foam and a tube of silicone caulking is probably the most effective low cost solution to rattles
 
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