Just thought i'd share this info, i recenty went to trade in my LS and was shocked that my '05 LS Ultimate was only worth $8k on a trade. I thought maybe the dealer was giving me the shaft but if you go to KBB.com and look up the value it is indeed worth $8k as a trade, the other values are slightly higher. Now i know there are several different places to get the value of your car and they all vary, but it seems the value of the LS especially the V8 versions have taken a nose dive. Although i still like my LS and i'm not considering trading it at this present time, i am upside down now as far as value and what i owe, and i managed a pretty good deal when i bought it. I have noticed there are alot of new members here who are new to their LS and although i dont know what kind of deals/prices you all have paid i would highly recommend everyone who drives a LS to get GAP insurance, unless by some lucky chance yours is paid off. Those who dont know what GAP insurance is it pays off the difference between what you owe and what the insurance company feels its value is. Again i know there are alot of variables with everyone regarding what they paid and who their insurance is etc. etc, but it seems most likely your LS's value is going to be lower than what your pay-off is. Look into it! It would suck big time to lose your LS and STILL owe on it.