just got the F stick from my mark!!!!!!

Sorry to hear that. The first time I took my 94' out, it ran a 15.5, and a 15.4. A few weeks later, I took it again and it ran a 16.2, and a 16.0. I was pretty dumbfounded, the only variable was that I removed the silencers and the temp. was 5 degrees warmer. My car had 164K miles, undoubtedly the original pump.

If you suspect your motor is tired, I would give Auto-RX a try. It takes time and you have to be patient, but the stuff just plain works. It has improved compression on many, many cars. It revived our 2000 Corolla, and I'm currently running some in my 97'.

http://www.auto-rx.com

Here's one example, and there's been much more dramatic ones as well:

Cylinder #1 Before Auto RX=208 and after RX=225
Cylinder #2 Before Auto RX=197 and after RX=215
Cylinder #3 Before Auto RX=167 and after RX=180
Cylinder #4 Before Auto RX=197 and after RX=200

Just some food for thought.
 
mlschultz said:
What is "Custom Ram Air"? You might want to start here, and go back to stock.
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I would def agree with this.

for a N/A basicly stock mark 8 there is no reason not to have the stock air box.
I did the big meter, cold air bs thing and my car consistantly slowed down.

The fastest passes my car made were after I switched back to the stock air box.
I'd lose any modifications you have in the silencer area and "retest".
 
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hahahah... seriously though it seems like you have a lot invested in that mark viii, i would do a compression check better you ditch it.
 
if you find a 97-98 LSC you'll be bus lengths ahead of your car at the track.
*peer pressure smile*
 
tommy means Gen 2's are slower than your average gen 1 mark viii.....not turd fergueson pieces of dump like mine...lol.....worst thing....i've driven marks that were way slower than mine.....ugh!!
 
98LSC32V said:
Tommy, what happend to your philosophy that Gen2's are slow?? haha
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I never said otherwise, I still think they are "turds".
all things being equal a first gen will run circles against the detuned, heavier second gen.

I was a "dyed in the wool" first gen fanatic, until I got about ankle deep in tuning it.
THEN.. the second gen became alot more appealing to me.

I still think the second gens are slow.

my stone stock turd went 14.70's with a tune, and I'm absolutely happy with that number.

knowing they are 15.0-15.30's cars in stock tune trim.
 
rich, just get your butt over to the second gen/obd2 dark side.

immerse yourself in some datalog pr0n

jump in the waters fine.
 
yea i want a Gen 2...there is a black on black 98 with 33k near me that i've been stalking this old man for :)
 
typically the faster cars of each year were
93-94's 14.60's
95-96's 14.70-.80's
97-98's are generally 15.0-15.30 cars

I've seen 93's thru 98's run 15.0's-15.30's
but generally speaking they slowed down .1-.2 or more each year


magazine ads all say the same numbers for the most part.

The numbers I mentioned are from watching many of these cars run at the dragstrip.
 
It doesn't matter what gen if the car is tuned period. Some might say the gen 1 intake manifold is better than the gen 2 and that the gen 1 is a bit lighter...
 
XLRVIII said:
93-94's 14.60's
95-96's 14.70-.80's
97-98's are generally 15.0-15.30 cars

The numbers I mentioned are from watching many of these cars run at the dragstrip.
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Thats exactly what I had hoped to read, real time numbers
thanks. I'm gonna run this 97 bone stock less some mild
polishing I did on the intake side before modding.

Having drag raced for some time a base line run is
priceless for things like the topic of this post. I've run
turbos for years now but am intersted in using nitrous
just as a learing tool on this car....before the enevatable.
 
russ jerome said:
Having drag raced for some time a base line run is
priceless.
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agree'd the most important data you can gather is your baseline runs.
Without good dependable consistant baselines, any later data is almost meaningless.

and without a baseline, any modifications gains are literally unmeasurable.
 
98LSC32V said:
It doesn't matter what gen if the car is tuned period. Some might say the gen 1 intake manifold is better than the gen 2 and that the gen 1 is a bit lighter...
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well a "tune" moved my second gen "turd" into decent "first gen" ET range...rather than BUS lengths behind a decent running first gen.

overall I'm pleased.
 
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