Got a ticket... need a Val 1 detector.

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anyone out there with valentine 1 detector?
on it's website, it says that lincoln towncar and continental have optional InstaClear on it's windshield which reduces radar range by 95%.
does anyone know if our LS have this InstaClear sh*t?

would you all recommend Val 1?

I got pulled over the other day for speeding. Damn It!!!
cop was driving opposite direction and whips around to pull me over.
I've been pulled over so many times in my LS but this is my first ticket.
Im fighting it. I'll all let you know how it goes. my court date in in 3 weeks.

I think it's about time to get Val 1 is everone that owns one think I should get one. Let me know...
 
I have a V1 and it has paid for itself 10 times over. I highly recommend a V1. I think the best feature is the directional arrows. It tells you where the radar is coming from and that is very helpful. Go to V1's website today and order one. You won't be sorry.
 
how many miles over the limit did you go? or at least the cop claims you were going? also the val 1 is a worthy investment, but to answer your question on the instaclear... i have no clue!
 
I have two one forward and one backward Rocky mountain radar detector/jammer and they are awesome! I do a lot of freeway driving usually about 80-90 or so and they have saved my a$$ several times.
 
Hey does anyone know if the tint throws these off.....I was told buy a buddy who has the c6 with the V1 and 20% on the front glass that it did not mess his up ...what the hell is instaclear??? Is this the factorys way of tinting the glass???? I might have heard of this.....
 
loveLSE said:
on it's website, it says that lincoln towncar and continental have optional InstaClear on it's windshield which reduces radar range by 95%.
does anyone know if our LS have this InstaClear sh*t?
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No, we don't. Instaclear was a heated windshield technology that used a heating film to defrost the glass. It was available in the early '90s, but never quite caught on.
 
My windshield says Pilkington brand, Solar Tint Laminated on the front bottom middle of the glass. The rear glass says Carlight Solar Tint on the right bottom.

I cannot say for certain with Lincoln, but at least on a GM brand vehicle, Solarxxxx usually meant that the glass had some metallic component in the glass that killed sun and radar. I recall reading awhile back that the Lincolns had similar glass and so radar should also be affected.

My experience and others on a Chebby site was that the metallic windshields cut radar range by at least half to 3/4s. This is probably OK for most city driving, but not as useful for open country where the cops can shoot you from a mile or more.

I have a detector in my 2004 LS and it seems to work, but I am not convinced that the range is all it would be with plain glass.

Good Luck,

Jim Henderson
 
I have the V1 in my 2005 LS. Its the best detector on the market and the only one made in the USA. All other detectors are $6 chinese import crap.

I have mine wired into the pod where the sunroof controls are and its mounted on a custom bracket off the drivers sun visor screw. Its the cleanest installation location on the car. And can hardly be seen.

All other radar detectors are garbage and once you hold a V1 in your hand you'll see why!
 
Jim Henderson said:
My experience and others on a Chebby site was that the metallic windshields cut radar range by at least half to 3/4s. This is probably OK for most city driving, but not as useful for open country where the cops can shoot you from a mile or more.
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Do you mean it reduces the range of the police radar gun, or the effective range of the radar detector?
 
I have a V1 with a nice clean install above the rear view mirror. I have never had a problem with getting reception to it even though its up near the top strip on the windshield.

But alot of cops these days are using laser guns and if you get hit with a laser you are more then likey busted. The valentine will let you know u've been hit by a laser (it goes crazy) but it will be too late.
 
Jim Henderson said:
My windshield says Pilkington brand, Solar Tint Laminated on the front bottom middle of the glass. The rear glass says Carlight Solar Tint on the right bottom.

I cannot say for certain with Lincoln, but at least on a GM brand vehicle, Solarxxxx usually meant that the glass had some metallic component in the glass that killed sun and radar. I recall reading awhile back that the Lincolns had similar glass and so radar should also be affected.

My experience and others on a Chebby site was that the metallic windshields cut radar range by at least half to 3/4s. This is probably OK for most city driving, but not as useful for open country where the cops can shoot you from a mile or more.

I have a detector in my 2004 LS and it seems to work, but I am not convinced that the range is all it would be with plain glass.

Good Luck,

Jim Henderson
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Well, as metal is an excellent reflector of RADAR, a metalized windscreen would seem to enhance the RADAR signal. BTW, I work with RADAR every day!
 
mholhut said:
Do you mean it reduces the range of the police radar gun, or the effective range of the radar detector?
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Based on the last line in his post, I think he meant that it reduces the effective range of the detector, not the radar unit.
 
LS4me said:
Well, as metal is an excellent reflector of RADAR, a metalized windscreen would seem to enhance the RADAR signal. BTW, I work with RADAR every day!
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But, given the rake of the windshield, wouldn't it tend to scatter the beam, rather than reflecting it, giving it a neutral at best effect on the return signal?
 
Ken Motz said:
I have the V1 in my 2005 LS. Its the best detector on the market and the only one made in the USA. All other detectors are $6 chinese import crap.


All other radar detectors are garbage and once you hold a V1 in your hand you'll see why!
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I take exception to that. I've had the V1 and an Escort. The Escort was every bit as good if not better than the V1. It's done me very well.
 
Below is a picture of my radar. Its a Uniden radar/laser detector and is 13 yrs old. I bought it when i left for college and its worked great everyday since, also been used in five different cars. I do alot of driving and i can tell you that i get great range with that unit in the LS. I chose the Uniden because it had the least annoying alert sounds.
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Ken Motz said:
I have the V1 in my 2005 LS. Its the best detector on the market and the only one made in the USA. All other detectors are $6 chinese import crap.

I have mine wired into the pod where the sunroof controls are and its mounted on a custom bracket off the drivers sun visor screw. Its the cleanest installation location on the car. And can hardly be seen.

All other radar detectors are garbage and once you hold a V1 in your hand you'll see why!
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You're right Ken the V1 pays for it's self so many times that investing the money into it will definately be worth it...and ya after you have the V1 all other detectors are crappy as hell...you have to own one to understand.
 
Akkord29 said:
But alot of cops these days are using laser guns and if you get hit with a laser you are more then likey busted. The valentine will let you know u've been hit by a laser (it goes crazy) but it will be too late.
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I agree, this is why you need a lead car out front. I am a firm believer in Bear Bait!! You can hear when HE gets hit!
 
no kidding about the lasers. i got my girlfriend a passport 8500 X50 for christmas, so i figured i had rights to borrow it in my car(the ls). anyway bottom line is motorcycle cop got me on laser, the radar went nuts right when he got me. i guess he raidoed his pal becuase i was pulled over by a guy in a cop car and he tried to be a smart-a** and joked "ha does that thing pick up LASER?" as he handed me a 200 dollar ticket. Did i mention i hate cops? dont mean to offend any on here, but i just could spend that money much much better than that.
 
Unless they've change significantly, laser units have to be stationary to work accurately. We don't have any around here, but they're supposedly quite common in the Houston area; from what I've been told, the M.O. is to have 'cycle cops staked out on an overpass or under an underpass with the laser unit. Once they paint you, they radio a waiting patrol unit or interceptor to pull you over and deliver the ticket.
 
Check out this website for ways to fight a ticket

Hi, I'm new here and this is my first post. Anyways I have been doing alot of research on radar detectors. I just graduated college with two elcetronics degrees and have been pondering on building my own detector. Unfortuantely all of my ideas are illegal by the federal government. One thing I do know is that if a cop is writing you a ticket, then ask to see his reading. But wait until he has actually written the ticket. I live in Missouri and I believe they have to show you if you ask or the ticket doesn't count. The reason for asking is that the radar that cops use are usually inaccurate, really inaccurate if they are headed towards you or in motion, and the cops use their own judgment. This could be a argument for you in court. Also make sure you show up because were I live, you will usually win if you show up and the cop doesn't. Here is a great website with more arguments in our defense http://www.radarbusters.com/support/choosing-detector/mistakes.asp
By the way I just purschased an 03 LS with a V8 and have many questions I will be asking and hopefully posting some pics.
 
P.s.

One other thing I forgot to mention. Once when I was in my truck I was behind a cop and could read his radar. We were stopped in traffic and his radar was clocking the other stopped cars at 40 mph. Proved to me how bad the police radars really are.
 
TheRebel said:
I live in Missouri and I believe they have to show you if you ask or the ticket doesn't count.
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Maybe in Missouri but I even doubt that. I don't know of anywhere where that is true.

The reason for asking is that the radar that cops use are usually inaccurate, really inaccurate if they are headed towards you or in motion,
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Please know what you are talking about before discrediting something that has been used for many years and is so accurate that all courts have taken judicial notice when it comes to it's use. With those two pices of paper you have from college I'd think you'd look into how they work and realize why they are so accurate before saying something so wildly inaccurate.

and the cops use their own judgment. This could be a argument for you in court.
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The judgement is used to estimate speed before the RADAR unit is even turned on. The reading is what the citation is based on.
 
Bushum follow the link

Dude, don't cut my throat for trying to help. Follow my link from my pervious post and you'll see that even a cop admits to the inaccuracy of a radar. If that is not enough for you I will scan the manual from my COBRA radar dectector that stated that radar is inaccurate while in motion. The cops use a computer connected the radar that is supposed to compensate for their traveling speed but it has to be calibrated frequently. Besides, these were all just ideas to help. Whats the worst thats gonna happen if you try to use them? You already have the ticket. And as far as my pieces of paper. It just means that I know that sensitive electronics are very screwy. Why would the radar in the cops car being reading 40mph on idle vehicles? Here's something else for you to read: In 2004 the Pennsylvania State Police purchased hundreds of new radar guns. They were clocking rocks at 70 mph. This is an example of mechanical interference as the police car's heater/air conditioner fan was producing the erroneous speed reading. So not just Missouri police radars suck. The only reason courts have been using them for citation purposes is because nobody fights them.
 
Ok I apoligize for coming at you like that, it just annoys me when people say things that just aren't true. I don't know what kinda crappy equipment these guys have but I use RADAR every day and I know all about the errors that it can have. The thing is that it is VERY easy to tell when there is an error. For example when you get shadowing yes it combines the speed but it also splits the combined speed very unproportionally. You will have a target speed of 130 MPH and a patrol speed of something like 11 MPH. Now it's pretty obvious when you are going 65 and your patrol speed says 11 and it's also easy to tell the difference between someone going 80 MPH and 130 MPH. RADAR units also have an audible signal that you listen to so you know you have the right car and the correct reading. As far as the Pennsylvania Troopers getting feedback from their fans anyone that is at least halfway competent knows what's going on. You don't just turn it on and close your eyes and pull someone over. You can also tell how fast someone is going by looking at them. If they are sitting still it's a pretty safe bet they're not going 70 MPH.
 
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