gen 2 hid question please

poniesviii said:
What he said..

But, on a side note, I don't care if it comes with bulbs or ballasts, just tell me which ones to get.. My main interest is rings, that are correct.
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Yep. I don't mind getting the whole kit & kaboodle from mafioso as he has earned it, but my concern is making sure this stuff is available five, six, ten years from now.

It's hard to beat a $10 bulb that can be bought almost anywhere, should I be in a position where I need to get it replaced immediately. And my ride isn't entirely legal, so I prefer to avoid drawing attention to myself by rolling around with a headlight out. But then again, I'm a rare GenI with HIDs, so I have even fewer options and I don't think any are legal (until Mafioso's kit gets DOT approval).
 
I don't understand if your ride isn't completely legal, why do you care about dot approved hids. I'd say more cars I see with hids did not come that way from the factory, as opposed to the ones I do see that are oem.

Thats why I will continue to leave my hids in the highbeams socket.
 
mafioso said:
of course, I might get a few of the Gen2 owners together and do some testing for a discounted price. I have 2 Gen2's that are parked and dont move so they are usless for roadtesting, I have the gen1 rings knocked out and reaady to go, just not enough testing with Gen2. The rings are at a different mounting depth in the housings between Gen1 and Gen2 so I gotta get it right :)
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I'll be a test monkey for you, haven't had any issues yet with my stock bulbs, knock on wood, but don't really want to experience any either. Let me know if you need a guinea pig.
 
The Rev said:
I don't understand if your ride isn't completely legal, why do you care about dot approved hids. I'd say more cars I see with hids did not come that way from the factory, as opposed to the ones I do see that are oem.
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I just don't want to draw attention from the cops, that's all. Having a headlight out will get me pulled over, plain and simple. Having non-DOT lighting is fine in that it won't get me pulled over, but puts me at risk of having an insurance claim rejected in the event of an accident.

And Mafioso, I want to hear it straight from you bro. What's the story on those bulbs and whatnot? Warranty is definitely a good thing. Details? Can you tell us anything more about how close your system is to DOT approval?
 
Here is the fat and skinny of it,

The conversion for Gen2 and LSC 96 are already approved since its a native bulb in a native housing. The refector and cut off capsule is for xenon bulbs.
The only compliant tempratures per DOT is 4300K,5200K most of the OE market is now using 5200K

What Im trying to do is gain compliance for 9006,9005 and other bases to be approved in halogen housings, Its a hard task since I have to prove socket compliance The focus must be on par with its halogen counterpart and it must produce a similar beam pattern without blinding on coming traffic

Until I get the certification from DOT converting halogen housing does not meet DOT regulations, but you would be surprised to find out that there are so many loopholes cops dont really look twice unless you are using an unapproved color temprature such as purple, blue,red,green,orange,pink. Which are all specialty colors,

Per DOT regulations you CAN run 4300K-30,000K tempratures since the regulations state the replacement bulbs must be equal or greater to the OE equivlant of the OE specifications in candel output.

Most of us dont care for DOT approved but some do.

Where Im at with the DOT business is I've submitted the paperwork to be an OE supplier and I have to do the indipendant tests and submit to DOT then they will conduct thier own tests to verify the results if I pass then I will obtain DOT certifications. Its a pretty lengthy process since I have to meet standards for every state.
 
mafioso said:
The conversion for Gen2 and LSC 96 are already approved since its a native bulb in a native housing. The refector and cut off capsule is for xenon bulbs.
The only compliant tempratures per DOT is 4300K,5200K most of the OE market is now using 5200K
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This is definitely good news. When I have a bulb go out, I will be calling you for your kit.

What kind of bulbs and ballasts are you using anyways? And are the bulbs being modified at all or is it just an adapter ring with a widely available bulb?
 
Mafioso, I don't care about the DOT. And, I found the kit in the trash if anyone asks. My car has downtime right now, and as soon as you tell me how much you need for a 96 LSC conversion kit and how soon I can have it and what it includes I'll be selling my parts on ebay right away, and buying your kit. How soon can I purchase and recieve the kit? You can pm me if you wish also..
 
The regulations do not hinder the rings, and aftermarket xenon bulbs. per regulations they meet standards. on 96LSC (xenon housings) 97-98.

You will be able to use the rings with any kit you wish I would recommend mine though, because we have a tight reign on quality control.

There are alot of ebay special kits out there and there is no regulation on the focal points of the bowl(xenon equiv. of a filament) you may or may not have the optimal performance from the bulbs.

Finally I have been able to create a bulb that is extremely close the halogen counterpart.

Which regulations state that any aftermarket bulb must produce the equiv. light pattern per the OE specs.

I have been able to achieve close to manafacture specs in beam pattern per manafacture specs.

The comparison bulbs I have been using come from sylvania.


The ballasts I have been working with in the design are my own brand. I know they have been engineered well and thats why I offer lifetime warranty on the ballasts, and a limited lifetime warranty on the bulbs, the only thing I do not cover in the warranty is intenional abuse or hot strikes.

The average life in the bulbs I have produced is 7,500-10,000 hours.
 
as soon as we work out the details and mind you it will be somewhat of a raw conversion for now, until we get an instruction pamphlet written out to send with every conversion.
 
Let us know man when they are available man. I'll take a kit and an extra set of bulbs in green to match the car for shows, etc.
 
mafioso said:
Finally I have been able to create a bulb that is extremely close the halogen counterpart.

Which regulations state that any aftermarket bulb must produce the equiv. light pattern per the OE specs.

I have been able to achieve close to manafacture specs in beam pattern per manafacture specs.

The comparison bulbs I have been using come from sylvania.


The ballasts I have been working with in the design are my own brand. I know they have been engineered well and thats why I offer lifetime warranty on the ballasts, and a limited lifetime warranty on the bulbs, the only thing I do not cover in the warranty is intenional abuse or hot strikes.

The average life in the bulbs I have produced is 7,500-10,000 hours.
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Ok, so you are manufacturing your own pieces - this is part of the answer to the question I have been asking all week.

That leads me to wonder: let's say, heaven forbid, that you are no longer around to sell us these bulbs. Change of career, health problems, manufacturing or supply issues, or whatever. If somebody has a bulb or ballast die on them, are they able to use any of the standard bulbs that are widely available? Or are your manufactured units proprietary?

I don't ask with the intention of getting parts elsewhere instead of you, I ask because I see us returning to back to this same problem in another 5-10 years.
 
We machine the rings, Im 100% you can use any xenon bulb with a 9006 base. The correct focal point are from the bulbs use, but you will be able to obtain a satifactory bulb performance with any.
 
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