Gear swap

LeadFoot357 said:
alright i think i've got this on lock i dont NEED the tune but after i get the gears & everything else i want on it i will need the tune to get everything running at its best. i'm surprised i havent been offered the "spoon" yet haha
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Here is my personal opinion on the matter.

1. The first performance mod you should do to any Mark VIII is a tune, these cars were so grandma from the factory, -21 degrees of tip in timing retard!!! A tune should be first always.

2. Since you should already have a tune before buying gears if you are getting gears all you should need is a simple reburn of your chip

3. Although you CAN put it gears and not get a tune it is stupid and you are comprising driveability and performance doing it... why would you do a perfomance mod and then hinder it's performance??
 
i see where you're coming from and completely agree. how much does it cost to get a chip reburned? my pockets are like a kiddie pool shallow with a small capacity so my thinking was put the some stuff on (new coils, plugs, maf, etc) pick up the gears and bigger stuff along the way and once i've got all i want/need buy the chip and have an install frenzy
 
LeadFoot357 said:
just rub it in :( haha
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not trying to rub it in, actually.
Just wanted to let you know there are "options".

You can do it also, it's not hard...but there is a little learning curve in the beginning... KK or myself could help you over that hurdle.

the SCT software is 329.00.
Then you'd need an xcal 2

I got my xcal 2 off ebay for 50.00, usually they go for 100-150ish.

I know it sounds like alot, but in the end, it's the most cost effective solution.

being able to change ANYTHING and EVERYTHING at will is priceless.

getting a good solid tune on the car changes it from a "car you ride in" to a "car you drive".

the difference is night and day.

the tip in retard that KK mentioned is an easy place to pick up alot of throttle response {it takes the mushy gas pedal away}
 
leadfoot, where are you located?
F.O. doesnt equate to anything I know of..
 
thanks, i had no clue i could do that with a 94 but with the xcal i just plug it in & make whatever changes i want to and i presume the software will allow me to upgrade/update the xcal
 
thats what i thought, had my hopes up for a while :( and i suppose the stuff to reburn my own chip is pretty expensive or not available
 
LeadFoot357 said:
thats what i thought, had my hopes up for a while :( and i suppose the stuff to reburn my own chip is pretty expensive or not available
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When I got "the whole shebang" a few years ago.
yes it was very expensive, the hardware is the expensive part

The Chip Blanks are 200 ish
The Chip Burner is 450
the sofware is 329
By the time the dealer "made his profit" my bill was $1097.00

For a beginner tuner this may be a hard pill to swallow.
But.. to this day I dont regret spending that money, it's been the best money I spent on my car.

you know after you spend a large amount of money, after some "time" the "new" and "hype" wears off..and you regret making that purchase.
I have YET to feel like I "shouldn't have spent the money".

I'd do it again TODAY.


Now if you have an OBD2 car, the hardware costs are far far less.
it turns a 1000 dollar solution into a 600ish dollar solution.
 
CobraStar_LS8 said:
I wonder if this is good
http://www.tweecer.com/tweecer_rt.htm
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Tweecer is very good, it has a steep learning curve, but the "RT" version is a very nice product.

not only that.. Mike Glover, the guy that created it.. lives right over in your back yard.

The support for the mark 8 isn't "all there" because there isn't much market for it.
I contacted Mike Glover a couple of years ago, and he said for 25.00 he'd pull my custom tune out of my PCM and import into a useable tweecer file.
AT THAT time Tweecer didnt' datalog, so it fell short of what I was looking for.. but the new RT version DOES datalog.

Tweecer is pretty cool actually
My friend "Ben Fraizer" with a 8 second turbo mustang tunes his car with Tweecer.
 
i looked at it and it sounds like the ticket for me so as soon as i'm done whipping the car back into shape and have some extra cash i'm definately going to pick one up. thanks for the help
 
Keep in mind, that if you go the tweecer route.. you'll be "one your own".
There wont be any handholding/spoonfeeding of information.
It's a very robust "tuning tool" the creators aren't going to want to "teach you to tune".
 
i've been looking into it there are quite a few forums out there for help with it if i should run into any trouble
 
For a gen 1 I'd just get an SCT chip from a reputable vendor and be done with it.
 
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