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After reading through the last thread I made about supercharging and rebuilding I am thinking that it would be wise for me to listen to all of you since you are more experienced.

If I were to use the stock VIII bottom end, put some c heads on it, and then the normal stuff, how much power would I be looking at?
 
Well,


What do you MEAN, the normal stuff?


The C heads are going to require a new intake manifold just to bolt up.
 
Futhermore,


If your gonna run a *STOCK* VIII bottom end, you would be better off buying a complete 99-04' N/A 4 valve out of a Cobra/Mach.


The 8's lower end is'nt any stronger than a cobra motor because of the pistons/rods. The crank is better, but thats it. With the engine I just mentioned, you will get the C heads, intake, AND Factory cam timing reliability.

It is just PLAIN retarded to swap C heads/induction on to a STOCK VIII engine.

There has to be HUNDREDS of topics covering this already.
 
C heads and supporting components. The LMS Intake, larger MAF, longtubes, LMS exhaust, I want to do cams but I doubt that will happen, Screamin Demon Coils, the heads are going to be port and polished before they are put on the block, same with the intake manifold, probably a bigger throttle body as well.

Not sure if the intakes work the same with the cobra intake or not , I am assuming they don't so if not I want to get some sort of aftermarket intake.
 
a 96-98 Cobra intake will NOT work.

a 99 and up will.


The intake ports are COMPLETELY different.

The intake in the top picture is a 96-98 Cobra unit.

The lower pic is actually the lower intake from a terminator, (same port setup as C heads.) You REALLY need to search around the forum here, and get a feel for what you are asking.

You'll soon see WHY we don't like answering these questions much.

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correct me if i am wrong, but the 93-mid 96 block is a romeo that came from italy and is better than the mid 96and on block, i thought that more people prefer the romeo block just because of the grade of aluminum?
 
Yes, and no..............


This block, part number F6LZ-6010-AB, was also used in the ‘93-‘98 Lincoln Mark 8. Originally this block was cast in Italy by Teksid, a supplier to Ferrari and other manufacturers. The block is cast in SAE 319 modified alloy aluminum before it is heat treated and aged to achieve the desired characteristics. Overall, we have achieved good results with this lightweight (85.40 lbs) alloy block, as long we use care in its preparation. In 1999, Ford changed the main cap detail, eliminating the jackscrews that preloaded the side of the main cap. They also changed the width of the cap, and switched to a different side bolt with a higher torque value. The diameter of the hole for the knock sensor was also changed from M8x1.25 to M12x1.50. We simply drill and tap these holes if we are using the ’99-up block in an earlier chassis. The part number for the ‘99 block is XR3Z-6010-CA.

In 2001, Ford changed the design of the block to a lighter-weight (80.40 lbs) casting utilizing SAE 319 modified alloy, incorporating some interesting design changes. This block is known as the WAP (Windsor Aluminum Plant) block. The oil drain-back holes were changed to keep the oil as far away
from the crank as possible, and the main bearing web area was changed to create a beefier structure.

The teksid is PREFERED, but the WAP, will be more than enough for anything a typical VIII application would need.
 
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