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Opinions? Who won? Who lost? :shifty:

I'm enjoying watching the expressions on Oblamas face when McCain hits him with the facts. Looked like ol' Barry was pretty mad when John brought up his $930+ M in pork spending. :p


Of course, McCain's running mate hasn't been all that much better. :slam :F
 
Notice that John can't seem to make eye contact with Barrack. Does he feel threatened? He won't even look in his general direction!
 
I'm sorry, McCain just seems to continue to try and make himself look good, he spends too much time focusing on himself and what he's done, than he does the important issues at hand. He uses a lot of I's and I have.

Barrack is more of a "we" guy.

It's like McCain feels like he just deserves the presidency! He keeps saying that Barrack just doesn't seem to understand or "get it".
 
Yeah, it would be a much more convincing debate of McCain would look over once and a while.

I don't think it's that McCain feels he deserves it, It seems to me he's still trying to pound Obama over the head with the experience card. And it does seem to be coming across as being self-centered.
 
With all that stuff aside tonight just further proved that NOBama is a socialist. Hopefully more and more people will realize this and finally pull their heads out of their asses.
 
Obama is a "we" guy????-
Obama is notorious for taking credit for things he has no involvement with.

I told the treasury secretary
I told the administration...
I said....

Geez... I didn't realize the junior secretary from Illinois had everyone's ear a few years ago.

I think Obama did very well, in regards to his composure and presentation. He served his campaign very well tonight.
Of course, if you fact check what he said, you'll find some glaring mistruths. Even his closing statement about his father was untrue.

When McCain was on, he was spot on and remarkably effective. Other times, he seemed much less polished and rehearsed than Obama. Perhaps that's because Obama has been cramming for this debate for the last two weeks, while McCain only had a few hours this week. I like the angrier McCain, the one where he gets fired up. That's when he's best.
 
They tried to get McCain into a face to face spat with Obama by encouraging direct conversation. This is silly. McCain cleverly avoided looking frustrated or smug, unlike Obama. He was Presidential and stoic, whereas Obama came off as childish at times.

Most repeated phrases of the debate by each candidate:

Obama: Senator McCain is absolutely right...

McCain: Senator Obama doesn't understand...

New McCain ad already playing
 
McCain has always lacked in "personality" when speaking ,but in my mind that is good ,you don't feel that what he is saying is BS as apposed to obama who seems to be BS'ing everytime he speaks..
 
TWS Exclusive: Kissinger Unhappy About Obama

Henry Kissinger believes Barack Obama misstated his views on diplomacy with US adversaries and is not happy about being mischaracterized. He says:
"Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality."
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Barack Obama’s cringe-inducing “Me, too” moment with his troop bracelet –given to him by the mother of a soldier whose name he can’t remember without having to look down and read it. The name of the soldier is Ryan David Jopek.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r_jTgGeVU4

I've...uhhhh...got a bracelet...uhhh...too! What's her name gave it to me!
 
I, too, thought Lehrer was trying to get these two to argue. I'm a skeptic, but I thought he was doing this to get McCain to lose his cool. McCain, to his credit, didn't bite. Both of the candidates came across okay. Obama looked and sounded good without too many "uhs", and McCain seemed to speak from his heart. I didn't like how McCain was angled away from Obama, even though I know he was trying to face Jim Lehrer. I also didn't like how McCain would write something and he looked like he was hiding what he was writing from Obama. McCain seemed to have more of a sense of urgency about the financial crisis than Obama. In the end I don't think this debate will change many minds. McCain is the choice for the older, more conservative crowd. And Obama is the choice for the younger, more liberal crowd. It'll be interesting to see how the middle shakes out.
 
From March 2008, on a radio show, Brian Jopek discusses Obama wearing the bracelet:

Brian Jopek: Because of some of the negative feedback she’s gotten on the Internet, you know Internet blogs, you know people accusing her of… or accusing Obama of trying to get votes doing it… and that sort of thing.

Radio Host Moberg: Yeah

Jopek: She has turned down any subsequent interviews with the media because she just didn’t want it to get turned into something that it wasn’t. She had told me in an email that she had asked, actually asked Mr. Obama to not wear the bracelet any more at any of his public appearances. Which I don’t think he’s…

Moberg: It has been a while since he’s brought it up.

Jopek: Right. But, the other night I was watching the news and he was on, uh, speaking somewhere and he was still wearing it on his right wrist. I could see it on his right wrist. So, that’s his own choice. I mean that’s something Barack Obama, that’s a choice that he continues to wear it despite Tracy asking him not to… Because she is a Barack Obama supporter and she didn’t want to do anything to sabotage his campaign, so, if he’s still wearing the bracelet then, uh, that of course is entirely up to him.
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McCain seems to me to be more concerned about the"right and wrong" where Obama seems to go with "what ever it takes to get elected
 
jhargarage said:
McCain seems to me to be more concerned about the"right and wrong" where Obama seems to go with "what ever it takes to get elected
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You're more right than you know.

Ask Hillary how Obama won the primary. He won by using the caucuses to his advantage, by having teams of his voters bully and pressure the other voters to side with him instead of her. If you look at the primary results, he rarely won a state that didn't have a caucus system, especially late in the primary season. Hillary actually won the popular vote.

This tactic will hurt him in the general, because the general election doesn't involve caucuses. He has to win it vote by vote. Unless ACORN delivers a few million extra phony votes for him, he will have a tough time winning this fair and square.
 
He won by using the caucuses to his advantage, by having teams of his voters bully and pressure the other voters to side with him instead of her.
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: Cough:... Richard Daley... Ehem :shifty:
 
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