DCCV= Does Cause Certain Violence

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  1. AmsterDutch

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    Well, let me first start this thread by saying this....Anyone and everyone who had to replace the DCCV on the 1st Gen Lincoln LS V8 I have felt all your pain and misery the last two days ....from damning the car to hell to cursing every engineer that thought up this poor design and ungodly tight space they crammed it in .....I truly understand now how the Lincoln evolution has worked ....the Ford engineering dept. had three years to perform trial and error with a blank check ...BUT... with that being said I replaced the part and successfully exchanged all coolant parts ....afterwards I properly bled the coolant lines and purged all air out of system and now my heat is toasty warm once again :)
    Special thanks as always to BigRigsLS and all who steered me in the right direction this Forum is unlike any ther on the worldwide web for the helpful and passionate ppl who know and love the Lincoln LS
     
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      Seriously?
      The Panthers (Town Cars) used air temperature blend doors. They fail at nearly the same rate as the DCCV on our cars, but on those you have to pull the whole dash out to fix it. Trust me, that's way more work than replacing a DCCV.
       
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        First thing to do before performing any work on the LS... is to exercise all the spirits. :D
         
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          Close... but Ford gave Jaguar a blank check to perform trial and error,,, and when completed... Jaguar ran away with the chassis design and is still using it.
           
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            Dutch,

            Yes... its a contortionists workout doing the DCCV... But the trick is which hoses you remove and and install in what order, (How's that for double talk), ... and don't ask because I don't remember. Yeah... you'll be up and down so much it will bring back flashbacks of basic training. :p You'll get such a workout that you will make "The Rock" look like Richard Simmons. But when it's done you'll be that much happier. Hope I got you laughing. neener neener neener :cool:
             
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              Work from above, work from below ... did you eventually notice that the DCCV is mounted on a bracket and both bolts don't have to be removed. Think it's the top one that only needs loosening and acts as a hook on it's mounting bracket. Can be lifted up and out of the way. this leaves the DCCV on it's bracket and replaces such before going back in.

              Wait till you do front sway bar bushings on the 1st GEN, right on top of the .... you guessed it, the DCCV again.

              Hit: swivel w/ 3' extension, work from above and below. DCCV top bolt can be loosened and on it's bracket lifted out of the way ever so slightly to clear the sway bar mounting bolts.

              Also, on these Lincoln LS'es ... don't bother putting your tools away ... it's not over yet, more to follow. Day-by-Day reparations !!! Hahaha ... true story.



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                You're right my legs and back were sore for two days afterwards lol
                 
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                O Lord have mercy on my soul lol....I don't want to touch the car for another week next project is the intake manifold gaskets :) I'm thinking it will be a breeze compared to the DCCV
                 
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                You can only hope..... I recommend soaking all the intake bolts with PB Blaster and driving it for a couple days to let the the penetrating oil seep in around the bolts. Then the day you do the project... start up the engine and let it warm up some,,, then shut it off and start gently working the intake bolts loose.

                Lastly,,, best to do it in a shop out of the cold weather. The reason I say this... is because a couple of people on this forum tried to do this job out in the cold,,, and on a cold engine... and ended up snapping some intake bolts. At least one member snapped off an intake bolt flush with the head. I don't remember how that worked out... but it was a rough job that went bad in a hurry.
                 
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                  Hey there Rigs! How ya doing brother. Long time no see. But then again I haven't been around much lately, (work, work, work).
                   
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                    Cooling system... suspension... engine... repeat. Cooling system... suspension... engine... repeat..... A vacation day is replacing a window regulator, or door hinge, or brakes.

                    JVIP;877099 got it right, (see sig).
                     
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                      Gotta go. The AM comes earlier as I get older. Woohoo... if I'm lucky I'll get 5 days off between now and Christmas,,, but the pay is good for having no life. I just hope the LS remains faithful till spring. The degas level has been dropping slightly... God I hope it's not the heater core! What a time of year for that to go out!!!
                       
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                      I'm not sure what's making the fluid drop but every winter when the cold snap came my old 2001 V8 LS would drop a down some I would add some coolant and all was fine...wishing you the best
                       
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                      pulled one from the yard worked for one day ..yes rough job all the hoses that huge old flat blade from your dads toolbox helps and taking off the skirts give you some kinda access … went to a/c specialist thought it was actuators blowing hot and cold it wasn't the actuators its the DCCV only a clean pristine dccv should be installed its old hose tar and calcite that ruins these could barly get the solenoid out of one the other like I said worked for one day should of used lime away
                       
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                      Cooling System ...Suspension.... engine... repeat....and so forth and so forth...that’s awesome Sport! ...It’s like ...welcome to the NFL rookie lmao!!!
                       
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                      Correct sir, I found that out some 15 years ago, the grit will jamb the pistons. Th solenoids rarely fail, its the gunk in the system that mucks them up.
                       
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                      Ahoy !
                      Picking up on the mention of gunk in cooling system. Would one of those aftermarket cooling system filters work ? The type I've seen is a filter screen that gets spliced into the upper radiator hose.
                      Also:unlike any ther on the worldwide web for the helpful and passionate ppl YES!
                       
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                      What will work perfectly, is to replace the coolant every three years or so. Use the pre-mixed long life, or use distilled water to mix with the concentrated. If the system is already dirty, flush it, but if you do regular coolant changes (not using tap water) it won't ever get dirty.
                       
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                      How's it going S-Type!
                      I'm not sure what filter screen you're talking about ...as far as aftermarket parts on the Lincoln LS I've found that its a buy at your own risk ...the Temp Control Valve (DCCV) is $149.00 on Amazon Brand New I read others threads on this Forum where ppl have went after market with Cooling System Parts and ended up replacing them shortly afterwards and if you're going to drain the coolant and take the time necessary to perform the job right, you will want to do it right the first time so....yeah its always tempting buying the (DCCV) unit for $89.00 dollars compared to $149.00 but you may be paying the $149.00 and spending hours more doing the job...As far as I'm concerned with gunk and other build up in the system I have found its as simple as doing a good drain and fill of the cooling system every couple years in order to keep the system clean...I purchased my present 2001 V8 knowing I would be doing a complete overhaul of the coolant system I only paid $500 dollars for the car but after owning the 2001 LS V8 previously its more of a hobby than anything I complain about the engineering and parts on the Lincoln LS from time to time but after owning several cars in my life Ive found its one of the best designed cars on the road and very safe not to mention the drivability is like no other when it comes to a low-end affordable Luxury Sports Car :)
                       

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