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Biden: Low taxes are unpatriotic

posted at 8:45 am on September 18, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

While Barack Obama tries to call John McCain a “liar” for saying Obama will raise taxes on a wide swath of Americans, Joe Biden tells America that paying higher taxes is … patriotic? The Democratic VP told Good Morning America today that “it’s time to be patriotic” and start allowing Uncle Sam to take even more of your paycheck:

Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden says that paying higher taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans. …

Biden told ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Thursday that, in his words, “it’s time to be patriotic … time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut.”

America’s economic woes have nothing to do with taxes. Biden offered a non-sequitur yesterday when asked about the need to bail out AIG, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and Bear Stearns. He blamed the problems on tax cuts, which makes no sense at all:

We should try to correct the problems that caused this. And what’s caused this? The profligate tax cuts to the very, very wealthy that John wants to continue. What’s caused this is the failure to have regulation so that, in fact — John talks about these CEOs getting these big bailout packages.

That’s akin to blaming your doctor’s Mercedes for the broken arm you got playing soccer. Tax policy had nothing to do with the credit crisis. They are two completely separate issues. The government did not underregulate the credit industry from a lack of necessary funding, and in any case, the tax cuts produced higher revenues for Washington, not lower revenues. The credit crisis came from bad lending decisions pushed by government mandates, and a lack of oversight driven by lobbyist-fed laziness.
Who were two of the CEOs who got big bailout packages from the Fannie/Freddie GSEs? Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines. Which candidate has them as advisers to his campaign? Barack Obama.

Now Biden wants to tell us that paying higher taxes is patriotic. You know what would be patriotic? Congressmen like Barack Obama and Joe Biden attacking government spending, not trying to beef up government revenues (and doing so in the most destructive way, by attacking capital needed for investment). Biden could be patriotic by revealing his pork-barrel record, something he has consistently failed to do. Who gets Biden’s earmarks? Why can’t Biden be patriotic and forego earmarks?

Most Americans look at their tax bite and figure they’re patriotic enough. They’d prefer electing people who start acting responsibly with their money, rather than demand even more from them to prove their patriotism.
 
Biden: Low taxes are unpatriotic

posted at 8:45 am on September 18, 2008 by Ed Morrissey

While Barack Obama tries to call John McCain a “liar” for saying Obama will raise taxes on a wide swath of Americans, Joe Biden tells America that paying higher taxes is … patriotic? The Democratic VP told Good Morning America today that “it’s time to be patriotic” and start allowing Uncle Sam to take even more of your paycheck:



America’s economic woes have nothing to do with taxes. Biden offered a non-sequitur yesterday when asked about the need to bail out AIG, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and Bear Stearns. He blamed the problems on tax cuts, which makes no sense at all:



That’s akin to blaming your doctor’s Mercedes for the broken arm you got playing soccer. Tax policy had nothing to do with the credit crisis. They are two completely separate issues. The government did not underregulate the credit industry from a lack of necessary funding, and in any case, the tax cuts produced higher revenues for Washington, not lower revenues. The credit crisis came from bad lending decisions pushed by government mandates, and a lack of oversight driven by lobbyist-fed laziness.
Who were two of the CEOs who got big bailout packages from the Fannie/Freddie GSEs? Jim Johnson and Franklin Raines. Which candidate has them as advisers to his campaign? Barack Obama.

Now Biden wants to tell us that paying higher taxes is patriotic. You know what would be patriotic? Congressmen like Barack Obama and Joe Biden attacking government spending, not trying to beef up government revenues (and doing so in the most destructive way, by attacking capital needed for investment). Biden could be patriotic by revealing his pork-barrel record, something he has consistently failed to do. Who gets Biden’s earmarks? Why can’t Biden be patriotic and forego earmarks?

Most Americans look at their tax bite and figure they’re patriotic enough. They’d prefer electing people who start acting responsibly with their money, rather than demand even more from them to prove their patriotism.
well john mccain has killed over 4100 of my brothers in arm, and he also thinks middle class can make up to 5 million, last time I checked my 50g income couldnt compare to 5 million.
 
well john mccain has killed over 4100 of my brothers in arm, and he also thinks middle class can make up to 5 million, last time I checked my 50g income couldnt compare to 5 million.
Your brothers in arms were Vietnamese soldiers?
 
well john mccain has killed over 4100 of my brothers in arm, and he also thinks middle class can make up to 5 million, last time I checked my 50g income couldnt compare to 5 million.
That 5 million comment said in gest has been completely distorted. What he was saying was that he didn't want to raise peoples taxes and he wanted everyone to have the opportunity to make it rich. That is America.
 
everyone has the oppourtunity to make it rich its just takes a little sacrifice and elbow grease.
 
I have been deployed three times, for what? I have seen more combat than McCains and Palins family put together and they are so quick to use their Military sacrifices, he was a POW because he did something wrong, good soldiers dont get captured.
 
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I have been deployed three times, for what? I have seen more combat than McCains and Palins family put together and they are so quick to use their Military sacrifices, he was a POW because he did something wrong, good soldiers dont get captured.
McCain wasn't a soldier, he was an aviator. Aviators tend to die or get captured when their planes get shot down.

Are you sure you are/were in the military?
 
well john mccain has killed over 4100 of my brothers in arm, and he also thinks middle class can make up to 5 million, last time I checked my 50g income couldnt compare to 5 million.

Nice attempt at a red herring...
 
I have been deployed three times, for what? I have seen more combat than McCains and Palins family put together and they are so quick to use their Military sacrifices, he was a POW because he did something wrong, good soldiers dont get captured.
That sounds like something a dumb grunt would say (anyone that's been in infantry knows that every unit has a Gomer Pyle with a bad attitude). What are you, an E-1? And what's a "good soldier" to do if completely surrounded, wounded, vastly outnumbered, and out of ammo, commit suicide? And if you didn't want to get deployed, you shouldn't have joined the military, Einstein. I'm curious to know why you joined. Was it because of college benefits, or a sense of adventure, or bravado? Obviously you didn't give much thought to the consequences. I'm not saying you don't have the right to voice your opinions, but you should know that your remarks bring disgrace to the soldiers that you served with.
 
That sounds like something a dumb grunt would say (anyone that's been in infantry knows that every unit has a Gomer Pyle with a bad attitude). What are you, an E-1? And what's a "good soldier" to do if completely surrounded, wounded, vastly outnumbered, and out of ammo, commit suicide? And if you didn't want to get deployed, you shouldn't have joined the military, Einstein. I'm curious to know why you joined. Was it because of college benefits, or a sense of adventure, or bravado? Obviously you didn't give much thought to the consequences. I'm not saying you don't have the right to voice your opinions, but you should know that your remarks bring disgrace to the soldiers that you served with.
*owned*
 
That sounds like something a dumb grunt would say (anyone that's been in infantry knows that every unit has a Gomer Pyle with a bad attitude). What are you, an E-1? And what's a "good soldier" to do if completely surrounded, wounded, vastly outnumbered, and out of ammo, commit suicide? And if you didn't want to get deployed, you shouldn't have joined the military, Einstein. I'm curious to know why you joined. Was it because of college benefits, or a sense of adventure, or bravado? Obviously you didn't give much thought to the consequences. I'm not saying you don't have the right to voice your opinions, but you should know that your remarks bring disgrace to the soldiers that you served with.

We're pretty good at trollification here.;)
 

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