jhargarage
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will only cost you $25,000 out of next years wages.................................
Bailout Agreement
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fossten
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Newt is right.
Do the deal like Newt says.
NO DEAL!
Do the deal like Newt says.
NO DEAL!
fossten
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Lindsey Graham just reported that the Dems were trying to include a provision in the bill to give 20% of the money to ACORN.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/25/kill-the-bailout-more-acorn-funding/
Kill the bailout: More ACORN funding?!
By Michelle Malkin • September 25, 2008 10:26 PM
Just heard from several readers that Lindsay Grahamnesty told Fox that the Mother of All Bailouts includes a reported $100 million more in funding for the left-wing housing entitlement thugs and heavily tax-subsidized fraudsters at ACORN. Under the original bailout proposal, apparently, a large portion of any repayment of the $700 billion would go to Barack Obama’s good friends at ACORN with a smaller allocation to debt repayment. Readers heard him say it was 20 percent.
Told you not to trust Hank Paulson.
And I repeat: Fiscal conservatives need to be looking out for us tonight as they try to ram this thing through with a plethora of goodies for liberal shakedown artists.
fossten
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Dude. This is CRIMINAL. These people need to be hung from the nearest tree. The sheer gall of this is earth shaking.
fossten
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Are the Democrats deliberately trying to queer the deal by loading it with poison pills?
jhargarage
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I am not that literal,silly but you get the point............................
The rest of that blog entry:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/25/kill-the-bailout-more-acorn-funding/
ACORN has been organizing protests across the country while maneuvering for their next handout.
Meanwhile, the watchdog Consumer Rights League testified on the Hill this week about rampant ACORN fraud:
James Terry, Chief Public Advocate for the Consumers Rights League, today testified at a joint House Administration and House Judiciary Committee oversight hearing on “Federal, State and Local Efforts to Prepare for the General 2008 Election,” where he highlighted “corruption at every level of ACORN including embezzlement, cover-ups, misuse of taxpayer funds and voter fraud.” An excerpt of his testimony follows:
James Terry, Chief Public Advocate, Consumers Rights League:
“ACORN routinely says it will clean up its act. Yet, given its decade-long history of voter fraud, embezzlement, and misuses of taxpayer funds, ACORN’s pattern of fraud can no longer be dismissed as a series of ‘unfortunate events.’
“The problem of voter registration fraud raises serious questions for this committee, and the Consumers Rights League appreciates that the right questions are being asked.
“Here are the most important questions right now: We know about the thousands of potentially fraudulent voter registration cards turned in by ACORN and caught by officials. But given the size of ACORN’s efforts and the fact that the abuses appear to be systemic, we believe it is fair to question how many more fraudulent registrations have not been discovered, Furthermore, as this mega organization with a decades long history of violating the law is turned to get out the vote efforts, we believe it is fair to question how many fraudulent registrations may lead to fraudulent votes or what other activities they are willing to undertake to influence the election.
“These are serious questions, especially in light of recent election results which show that a just few votes can change the outcome of an election, the course of our country and the course of history.
“While we do not presume to tell this committee how to address this problem, we respectfully submit that our nation’s election system is facing a concerted campaign that raises serious issues that merit the committee’s oversight and attention.”
And fresh out of Florida this week:
Two suspicious Seminole County voter registration cards became a flash point Wednesday in the Republican effort to suggest the community group ACORN is committing fraud in its historic Florida get-out-the vote efforts.
An ACORN spokesman said the group spotted what appeared to be forged registration cards weeks ago and fired a worker over them. Seminole’s election chief, Mike Ertel, said he was still “tremendously concerned,” but stopped well short of calling the incident “fraud.” The Republican National Committee, though, levelled the accusation and blasted the housing and wage advocacy group in a nationwide conference call with reporters, saying this wasn’t an isolated incident.
In Orange County, ACORN staffers submitted multiple, duplicate registrations on behalf of six separate voters this summer. One individual had 21 duplicate applications. Election Supervisor Bill Cowles and his staff protested, noting in a June memo that ACORN had been submitting sloppy forms as well.
ACORN, or the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, changed procedures, disciplined some staffers and improved relations with Orange. ACORN has signed up 135,000 new Florida voters since January in just three counties: Orange, Broward and Miami-Dade.
That’s a fifth of all new voters. More than 58 percent are Democrats, who now outnumber Republicans by almost 500,000 voters — providing Barack Obama a potentially crucial edge in the neck-and-neck race in Florida.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/25/kill-the-bailout-more-acorn-funding/
ACORN has been organizing protests across the country while maneuvering for their next handout.
Meanwhile, the watchdog Consumer Rights League testified on the Hill this week about rampant ACORN fraud:
James Terry, Chief Public Advocate for the Consumers Rights League, today testified at a joint House Administration and House Judiciary Committee oversight hearing on “Federal, State and Local Efforts to Prepare for the General 2008 Election,” where he highlighted “corruption at every level of ACORN including embezzlement, cover-ups, misuse of taxpayer funds and voter fraud.” An excerpt of his testimony follows:
James Terry, Chief Public Advocate, Consumers Rights League:
“ACORN routinely says it will clean up its act. Yet, given its decade-long history of voter fraud, embezzlement, and misuses of taxpayer funds, ACORN’s pattern of fraud can no longer be dismissed as a series of ‘unfortunate events.’
“The problem of voter registration fraud raises serious questions for this committee, and the Consumers Rights League appreciates that the right questions are being asked.
“Here are the most important questions right now: We know about the thousands of potentially fraudulent voter registration cards turned in by ACORN and caught by officials. But given the size of ACORN’s efforts and the fact that the abuses appear to be systemic, we believe it is fair to question how many more fraudulent registrations have not been discovered, Furthermore, as this mega organization with a decades long history of violating the law is turned to get out the vote efforts, we believe it is fair to question how many fraudulent registrations may lead to fraudulent votes or what other activities they are willing to undertake to influence the election.
“These are serious questions, especially in light of recent election results which show that a just few votes can change the outcome of an election, the course of our country and the course of history.
“While we do not presume to tell this committee how to address this problem, we respectfully submit that our nation’s election system is facing a concerted campaign that raises serious issues that merit the committee’s oversight and attention.”
And fresh out of Florida this week:
Two suspicious Seminole County voter registration cards became a flash point Wednesday in the Republican effort to suggest the community group ACORN is committing fraud in its historic Florida get-out-the vote efforts.
An ACORN spokesman said the group spotted what appeared to be forged registration cards weeks ago and fired a worker over them. Seminole’s election chief, Mike Ertel, said he was still “tremendously concerned,” but stopped well short of calling the incident “fraud.” The Republican National Committee, though, levelled the accusation and blasted the housing and wage advocacy group in a nationwide conference call with reporters, saying this wasn’t an isolated incident.
In Orange County, ACORN staffers submitted multiple, duplicate registrations on behalf of six separate voters this summer. One individual had 21 duplicate applications. Election Supervisor Bill Cowles and his staff protested, noting in a June memo that ACORN had been submitting sloppy forms as well.
ACORN, or the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, changed procedures, disciplined some staffers and improved relations with Orange. ACORN has signed up 135,000 new Florida voters since January in just three counties: Orange, Broward and Miami-Dade.
That’s a fifth of all new voters. More than 58 percent are Democrats, who now outnumber Republicans by almost 500,000 voters — providing Barack Obama a potentially crucial edge in the neck-and-neck race in Florida.
I think we just need go back and use a tried and true solution, one that countries have been using for years when they needed to raise funds - and was extremely popular 200 years ago.
Sell Alaska.
Put it on eBay.
Sell Alaska.
Put it on eBay.
fossten
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No; our stupid government would just buy it back for $2.3 Trillion.
jhargarage
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Lol+100
fossten
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Two thoughts:
1. Why aren't the Dem/libs on this forum outraged by the poison pills being inserted into the bill?
2. Obama is going to win the election due to voter fraud perpetrated on a massive scale by ACORN. But hey, whatever it takes, right?
1. Why aren't the Dem/libs on this forum outraged by the poison pills being inserted into the bill?
2. Obama is going to win the election due to voter fraud perpetrated on a massive scale by ACORN. But hey, whatever it takes, right?
I am appalled at both sides... But, yes very much at the stupid Democrats on this one.
It is interesting, it appears that McCain is coming in attacking the bill. How this plays out could change a lot about the election. I think that most people like the idea of waiting, and McCain is banking on that - hold up the bill, hope that the markets don't collapse, maybe find a better solution and he gets to keep the 'maverick' badge.
A lot to gamble. Since currently he is blocking the bill, hopefully the gamble pays off, because I think we will be going the way he wants us to on this one, I think he has enough votes to make things difficult for anything else to happen.
I think that they should work on a bill with no riders (ACORN is awful - good concept, but like all good ideas in congress, once money and power gets involved, things head south quickly).
Oh, and as far as this Dem/lib (I thought we weren't going to label people that way...) I really don't understand finances, I might understand the Bush Doctrine, but the economy, wow - no way. That is why I don't just jump in on the economy stuff.
I actually think selling assets might work (that shows you what i know). Or maybe we could use our military as a mercenary service - "Rent the Marines for a month - only 10 billion dollars".
Mostly what I know is that the government obviously doesn't run their finances like I do - pay as you go.
It is interesting, it appears that McCain is coming in attacking the bill. How this plays out could change a lot about the election. I think that most people like the idea of waiting, and McCain is banking on that - hold up the bill, hope that the markets don't collapse, maybe find a better solution and he gets to keep the 'maverick' badge.
A lot to gamble. Since currently he is blocking the bill, hopefully the gamble pays off, because I think we will be going the way he wants us to on this one, I think he has enough votes to make things difficult for anything else to happen.
I think that they should work on a bill with no riders (ACORN is awful - good concept, but like all good ideas in congress, once money and power gets involved, things head south quickly).
Oh, and as far as this Dem/lib (I thought we weren't going to label people that way...) I really don't understand finances, I might understand the Bush Doctrine, but the economy, wow - no way. That is why I don't just jump in on the economy stuff.
I actually think selling assets might work (that shows you what i know). Or maybe we could use our military as a mercenary service - "Rent the Marines for a month - only 10 billion dollars".
Mostly what I know is that the government obviously doesn't run their finances like I do - pay as you go.
fossten
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Where did you get this information? It's NANCY PELOSI who's blocking the bill. Reid has sufficient votes in the Senate to override a filibuster, and Pelosi has plenty of votes in the House to pass this. Pelosi has refused to pass this PORK-LADEN bill, which also includes $51 million for Vice Presidential candidate Joseph Biden pet projects, until she gets political cover from the Republicans. In other words, she doesn't want this to be just a Democrat bill.
McCain can't actually block this bill. It's true that he offered an alternative, but he was slapped down immediately by the Democrat named Hank Paulson, who retorted that McCain's idea wouldn't work. So much for bipartisanship, eh?
All I heard the last 5 years is that we "rushed into war," that we "didn't take the time to gather sufficient intelligence before we invaded Iraq," and now everybody on that same left side wants us to ramrod a half-assed bailout bill through behind closed doors without properly vetting it?
OH THE HYPOCRISY.
See, this is why I don't talk here -I really don't understand this stuff...
I got the Republican blocking thing from 2 places...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080926/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_meltdown
and
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticke...-Presidency-on-Blocking-Bailout-Deal?tickers=
And now I will go away, tail tucked between my legs...
I got the Republican blocking thing from 2 places...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080926/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_meltdown
and
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticke...-Presidency-on-Blocking-Bailout-Deal?tickers=
And now I will go away, tail tucked between my legs...
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fossten
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Why don't you just recognize that your boys (including Nancy Pelussolini) are nothing but corrupt fatcats stealing tax money from the citizens of this country while posturing for the cameras, and come on over to the right wing where you belong...
Resistance is futile.
Well, mostly I feel like I don’t belong anywhere – assimilation may be required…
I can’t possibly align myself with a party that wants to strip away at the constitution for “my own good” (quotes and italics indicating sarcasm this time Foss). But, it is harder and harder to support a party that is so corrupt and although talks a good line, goes into congress and does exactly the opposite.
So, I go with voting to keeping more of my rights intact. A matter of priorities I guess.
I can’t possibly align myself with a party that wants to strip away at the constitution for “my own good” (quotes and italics indicating sarcasm this time Foss). But, it is harder and harder to support a party that is so corrupt and although talks a good line, goes into congress and does exactly the opposite.
So, I go with voting to keeping more of my rights intact. A matter of priorities I guess.
fossten
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Depends on which rights you're talking about. I know you care about your guns...Well, mostly I feel like I don’t belong anywhere – assimilation may be required…
I can’t possibly align myself with a party that wants to strip away at the constitution for “my own good” (quotes and italics indicating sarcasm this time Foss). But, it is harder and harder to support a party that is so corrupt and although talks a good line, goes into congress and does exactly the opposite.
So, I go with voting to keeping more of my rights intact. A matter of priorities I guess.
Well, the second amendment is certainly in my top three…
However, the third amendment – they could just repeal that one.
I feel it is my patriotic duty to house soldiers, young, strong, handsome, tall, American soldiers, whenever called upon. My spare bedrooms are theirs, my glassed-in shower is theirs. Whenever the country needs to call on me for this, I’ll be there. Heck, even on short notice, like this weekend, I will make this sacrifice for my country.
However, the third amendment – they could just repeal that one.
I feel it is my patriotic duty to house soldiers, young, strong, handsome, tall, American soldiers, whenever called upon. My spare bedrooms are theirs, my glassed-in shower is theirs. Whenever the country needs to call on me for this, I’ll be there. Heck, even on short notice, like this weekend, I will make this sacrifice for my country.
fossten
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As many as they can squeeze into your bedroom at a time, right?Well, the second amendment is certainly in my top three…
However, the third amendment – they could just repeal that one.
I feel it is my patriotic duty to house soldiers, young, strong, handsome, tall, American soldiers, whenever called upon. My spare bedrooms are theirs, my glassed-in shower is theirs. Whenever the country needs to call on me for this, I’ll be there. Heck, even on short notice, like this weekend, I will make this sacrifice for my country.
jhargarage
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Whoa that took a turn................................