Kbob said:
Kerry had the best debate of his life last night. Although he wasn't correct in some of his facts as was pointed out afterwards by commentators, he was on target.
He wasn't correct in almost all of his facts and I have the proof.
Kbob said:
He was eloquent, knowledgeable, concise, and poised. The only real weak spot I noticed which is really ticky tack was on some of the cut away shots where he had a goofy looking half smile that seemed condescending in nature.
On Kerry's cutaway shots, he was bobbing his head in agreement everytime Bush caught him in a lie. Sure he is smooth. He's had 35 years to polish his lying skills. What else would you expect? Clinton was also very smooth. Coincidence???
Kbob said:
Why did he seem agitated on almost every cut away shot?
Because he was facing a guy who has lied so much in his life as to be believable in everything he says, yet when you sit back and compare his other previous positions, they don't cut mustard. Kerry(paraphrasing). I will bring in others to share the burden. How? France and Germany aren't coming. Russia has its own problems. So that policy decision is a lie. He says he will bring in others to share in the reconstruction. What the x!zp!vy!z!. Sounds like he is going to outsource work to companies that did not share in the pain and take those jobs away from those that have sacrificed. Hypocrite.
Kbob said:
And the only real reason he did was to point out that Kerry was contradicting a previous stand on some issue or something like that..
Now your getting it. Everything that came out of Kerry's mouth had to be fact checked. I have them all if you want to see them. Almost everything that came out of Kerry's mouth last night was a fabrication in some way.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to debate a guy that is willing to get up there and spew any position that he thinks will win opinion, inspite of the fact that he is on the record saying the exact opposite?
Kbob said:
I too tired of hearing "it's hard work" etc..
On this we agree. Bush blew it there.
Kbob said:
As far as the questions, I thought they were fair for the most part.
Again, what debate were you guys at? Jim Lehrer is Mr. Left when it comes to debates. Think I'm wrong. The Clintons considered Lehrer "Their Commentator" for a reason.
Lehrer suggested in almosty every question that Bush had blown it.
Kerry: "Do you believe you could do a better job than President Bush in preventing another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States?"
Is Kerry supposed to say no. Totally ridiculous question. Biased.
Bush: "Do you believe the election of Senator Kerry on November the 2nd would increase the chances of the U.S. being hit by another 9/11-type terrorist attack?"
Like Bush is supposed to say what Cheney said weeks ago, so that every Ted Kennedy wannabee comes crawling out of the woodwork. Biased
Kerry: "Colossal misjudgments." What colossal misjudgments, in your opinion, has President Bush made in these areas?
Intended to give the Dems talking points and reinforce the idea that the war was a mistake. Biased
Bush: "What about Senator Kerry's point, the comparison he drew between the priorities of going after Osama bin Laden and going after Saddam Hussein?"
Fair.
Kerry: "As president, what would you do, specifically, in addition to or differently to increase the homeland security of the United States than what President Bush is doing?"
I guess this intended to allow Kerry to demonstrate that Bush is not doing enough. Biased.
Bush: "What criteria would you use to determine when to start bringing U.S. troops home from Iraq?"
He wants to press Bush into a timetable that will hurt the war effort. Biased.
Kerry: "Speaking of Vietnam, you spoke to Congress in 1971, after you came back from Vietnam, and you said, quote, "How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake?"
Insinuating that this war was a mistake and the lives lost were in vain. Pathetic and Biased.
Bush: "You have said there was a "miscalculation" of what the conditions would be in postwar Iraq. What was the miscalculation, and how did it happen?"
Bush's answer. Catastrophic success in the field left too many Iraqi resistors still breathing. We didn't kill enough of them the 1st time, so now we have to do it.
Kerry: "You just -- you've repeatedly accused President Bush -- not here tonight, but elsewhere before -- of not telling the truth about Iraq, essentially of lying to the American people about Iraq.
Give us some examples of what you consider to be his not telling the truth."
Implying Bush does not tell the truth. And Kerry has used the word 'lie' several times. Biased.
Bush: "Mr. President, has Iraq been worth the cost in American lives -10,052 - I mean 1,052 up to today?"
Slip-up intended to infer there will be many, many more casualties. Biased.
Kerry: "Can you give us specifics, in terms of a scenario, time lines, et cetera, for ending major U.S. military involvement in Iraq?"
Softball intended to allow Kerry to say he will bring the troops home when Bush won't.
Bush: "Does the Iraq experience make it more likely or less likely that you would take the United States into another pre-emptive military action?"
Designed to reimforce the "cowboy" mentality and supposed reckless decision making.
Kerry: "What is your position on the whole concept of pre-emptive war?"
Kerry's response: But if and when you do it, Jim, you have to do it in a way that passes the test,
that passes the global test.
After the bomb goes off, the world will feel sorry for us and they will then give us permission to respond. That's the real Kerry plan.
Bush: "Do you believe that diplomacy and sanctions can resolve the nuclear problems with North Korea and Iran? Take them in any order you would like."
Fair question. but look at Kerry's responses.
Kerry quotes: I think the United States should have offered the opportunity to provide the nuclear fuel, test them, see whether or not they were actually looking for it for peaceful purposes.
LEHRER: I want to make sure but in this one minute, I want to make sure that we understand -- the people watching understand the differences between the two of you on this. You want to continue the multinational talks, correct?
BUSH: Right.
LEHRER: And you're willing to do it ...
KERRY: Both. I want bilateral talks...
I had to laugh. What better example of showing how Kerry wants both sides of every issue.
Bush: "Clearly, as we have heard, major policy differences between the two of you.
Are there also underlying character issues that you believe, that you believe are serious enough to deny Senator Kerry the job as commander in chief of the United States?"
Like the sitting President is supposed to be the one to inform the American public that this guiy is a lying, slithering, traitorous snake. The question was only intended to make Kerry look like he has no flaws because the President sure wan't going to point them out.
Bush: "It's a new subject -- new question, and it has to do with President Putin and Russia. Did you misjudge him or are you -- do you feel that what he is doing in the name of antiterrorism by changing some democratic processes is OK?"
Intended to show another example of a supposed Bush misjudgement. Biased.
Bush closing argument: If America shows uncertainty or weakness in this decade, the world will drift toward tragedy. That's not going to happen, so long as I'm your president.
CNN poll results...
"By narrow margins,
Bush came out better on believability, likeability and toughness. But there was virtually no change among those polled on which candidate would handle Iraq better or make a better commander-in-chief."
Like I said, Kerry won on style, but Bush has the substance that people want and will vote for. Give the RNC a couple of days to expose Kerry's positions and the public will once again see Kerry as the indecisive flip-flopper he is.
I wish Bush would have knocked this guy out. As it stands, he still has a couple more chances, but I think this now heads to election day closer than it should be.
It would have been FAIR if Lehrer had asked Kerry why he voted to authorize the war and then voted against funding it.
Or even why he voted for the 1st gulf war even though Bush 41 HAD amazed a hugh coalition.
Or, why didn't Lehrer step in and challenge Kerry's policy of adding more foreign troops as the cornerstone to his solution in Iraq even though France and Germany announced they will send no troops, even if Kerry is elected?
Kbob said:
The meat of the answers I think were a toss-up between the two. I really didn't have any criticism of either of their answers on specifics except for Kerry's answer on North Korea.
Kerry's way of dealing with N. Korea puts us into another war, with China potentially being our enemy, not our ally.
Kerry wants to GIVE, that's right, GIVE nuclear material to Iran to see if they will use it, as a trick. The guy is a total and complete moron.
Kerry remembers being in the wrong square of the KGB lair. Unfortunately for Kerry, that location was a Nazi concentration camp.
Kbob said:
In summary: good job Kerry, and Bush better get his act together for the next debate.
Bush had better come out and kick this pussy in the teeth next time they meet. That is what he failed to do last night.
