America sold out by Bush & Co.

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http://www.spp.gov Check out the Report to Leaders for the good stuff

There it is in black and white on a government website, the plans for the USA, Canada, and Mexico to become "Noth America", similar to the EU. It's already being implimented. This is why our borders are left untended.

Are youy ready to chuck your American citizenship to become a North American?
 
Yup, you are correct sir. That is one of the reasons I am not a Republican nor a Democrat. Both sides have sold us down the river, they just put in at different points.
 
Build an argument.

I get so tired of being making this bold statements, full of implications, but lacking any specific charges or arguements.

How is he selling it America. How is that idea selling out the country? Is it even going to be implamented? What is wrong with it? Is it even realistic?

I shouldn't have to address all of those issues in order to respond to a post.

But no, we haven't been sold out.
 
Actually, we have been. Bush, Fox and Martin have signed an agreement in March of 2005 forming the SPP. Some of its goals are to blur the borders between the three countries, form a common border around North America, have a "North American" Passport that allows free access for all people of all 3 countries access to all 3 countries.

This is all being done without congress's apporoval or the peoples knowledge.

The Texas segment of the NAFTA Super Corridor is moving rapidly toward approval. When built, the Trans-Texas Corridor, or TTC, will be a major super-highway with six lanes moving in each direction, twelve lanes across in total, described in the 4,000 page draft environmental study as including separate lanes "for passenger vehicles and large trucks, freight railways, high-speed commuter railways, and a corridor for utilities including water lines, oil and natural gas pipelines, and transmission lines for electricity, broadband and other telecommunications services."

The TTC is expected to follow the current lines of Interstate 35, stretching from Laredo, Texas, on the Mexican border, heading toward Oklahoma City on the Texas border with Oklahoma.

An artist's rendition shows what the projected super-corridor highway is expected to look like.

The idea is to extend the rebuilt I-35 NAFTA super-corridor highway all the way from Laredo, Texas, to Canada, with extensions in Canada to be built out to Montreal in the east and Vancouver in the west. In Mexico, the super-corridor will connect via Mexican railroads with the port at Lazaro Cardenas.

A core design feature is to create a hub in Kansas City. Here the "Lazaro Cardenas – Kansas City Transportation Corridor" will open up a north-south route through the United States to bring in containers from the Far East. As described by Kansas City's Smart Port website:


The Lazaro Cardenas – Kansas City Corridor refers to a trade route linking Kansas City to key Asia-Pacific Markets via a ships-to-rail terminal at the port of Lazaro Cardenas in the State of Michoacan, Mexico. Thanks to an innovative series of international agreements, infrastructure improvements and new technologies, this corridor is a reality.
As the American economy expands and the economies of the Far East ramp up production to meet our demand for goods, the pace of international trade will exceed the ability of major West Coast ports such as Long Beach and Los Angeles to accommodate the flow of goods into the United States.


The NAFTA Super Corridor will be constructed largely by private companies that intend to operate the new I-35 as a toll road. North America's SuperCorridor Coalition Inc., or NASCO, is a "nonprofit organization dedicated to developing the world's first international, integrated and secure, multi-modal transportation system along the International Mid-Continent Trade and Transportation Corridor" Already, NASCO has received $2.5 million in earmarks from the U.S. Department of Transportation.

The NAFTA Super Corridor plan is ultimately to reduce the transportation costs of using cheap labor in China, South Korea and Indonesia to produce goods for American markets. Bypassing West Coast ports in the U.S. means bypassing U.S. union wages. Mexican port and rail transport are expected to keep the shipping costs low. Also, allowing free access to the U.S. to Mexican trucks means that the containers can be moved through the U.S. by Mexican nationals, again bypassing Teamster union wages and benefits typically paid U.S. truck drivers.





To get a feel for how transportation planners are influenced by globalist economic thinking, consider this 2005 analysis written by Leonard Krouner in the Voice of San Diego:


The Los Angeles/Long Beach and Seattle/Tacoma harbors are the only two West Coast ports between Alaska and Chile that can be used by super-cargo "post-Panamax" ships with a 4,000 standardized cargo container capacity. The ability to off-load, move, unload, store and distribute cargo from these ships requires expansion of California's transportation infrastructure. Delays increasing costs for cargo movement at the Los Angeles/Long Beach port such as those extant during the 2003 longshoreman labor unrest, and the 2004 arrival of too many ships in a single time period with cargo for distribution prior to the Christmas holidays are motivating mega importers Wal-Mart and Home Depot to invest in warehouse facilities in less expensive states such as Georgia.
None of this would be possible without the extensive work being done by the U.S. Department of Commerce working groups charged with implementing by new regulations the Strategic and Prosperity Partnership of North America, or SPP. The SPP agreement was reached between President Bush, President Vicente Fox and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin during their March 2005 summit meeting in Waco, Texas. The Bush administration plan is to create a North American Union along the model of the European Union, put in place by administrative regulations and departmental working groups under the SPP umbrella.

The U.S. Department of Transportation is actively working on a Free and Secure Trade program that would create special lanes to allow trucks from Mexico to cross the U.S. border with minimal electronic inspection, reducing the U.S. border with Mexico to no more than a speed-bump for authorized Mexican trucks entering the country.

On June 7, 2004, the U.S. Supreme Court in the case Department of Transportation v. Public Citizen ruled in favor of the Bush administration's argument that the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration lacked the authority to exercise environmental controls to prevent Mexican trucks from openly operating in the U.S. under NAFTA. This ruling was key in the Bush administration's determination to open U.S. borders to Mexican trucks under the trade agreement. Had the Supreme Court decided otherwise, the NAFTA Super Corridor project would have suffered a setback.

I continue to argue that a "follow the money" strategy must be utilized to understand why President Bush has refused to close our border with Mexico, pushing instead for "comprehensive immigration reform" legislation that would allow the vast majority of illegal immigrants now in the U.S. to remain under a "guest worker" or "pathway to citizenship" provision. The underlying agenda of the Bush administration seems to be to create a NAFTA-plus environment in which workers, trade and capital will be allowed to flow unimpeded within the trilateral North American community consisting of the United States, Canada and Mexico.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50451

and this....

Kansas City is planning to allow the Mexican government to open a Mexican customs office in conjunction with the Kansas City SmartPort. This will be the first foreign customs facility allowed to operate on U.S. soil.


City leaders voted last month to give the facility an innocuous name to hide its true identity as an arm of the Mexican government, staffed by Mexican officials.

In fact, Kansas City is so enthusiastic about the opportunity, the cost of building the $3 million dollar facility for Mexico will be paid for by Kansas City taxpayers, not by the Mexican government.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50500

I think these, on top of Bush's refusal to do what the people want and close the border with Mexico are more than enough proof to at least warrent an investigation into the SPP and its true goals.
 
biglou71 said:
Actually, we have been. Bush, Fox and Martin have signed an agreement in March of 2005 forming the SPP. Some of its goals are to blur the borders between the three countries, form a common border around North America, have a "North American" Passport that allows free access for all people of all 3 countries access to all 3 countries.

This is all being done without congress's apporoval or the peoples knowledge.

I think these, on top of Bush's refusal to do what the people want and close the border with Mexico are more than enough proof to at least warrent an investigation into the SPP and its true goals.

So essentially the millions of illegal aliens that cross every year to work tax free will now have a free pass and nobody will be able to control it as the economy goes down the sh!tter?

Say it isn’t so…
 
95DevilleNS said:
So essentially the millions of illegal aliens that cross every year to work tax free will now have a free pass and nobody will be able to control it as the economy goes down the sh!tter?

Say it isn’t so…


No where in anything I have posted will you see me say I am a fan of the current President. However, he is better than both the alternatives that were offered IMHO. He is far to liberal and weak for my taste.
 
biglou71 said:
No where in anything I have posted will you see me say I am a fan of the current President. However, he is better than both the alternatives that were offered IMHO. He is far to liberal and weak for my taste.

Lol, now that's funny.

Just curious, if you had the ability to bring back any previous president or any other leader, who would you like to see in the oval office?
 
George S Patton. Ofcourse the Media would tear him apart, and Americans today are far to weak minded and too easily influenced to actually elect him. But he would be my choice, we are in a time of war, and as such need a leader who is a warrior, not a politician.

Actual presidents? That one would take some thought, and I am getting ready to leave work now, so I will have to get back to you on that.
 
95DevilleNS said:
Lol, now that's funny.

Just curious, if you had the ability to bring back any previous president or any other leader, who would you like to see in the oval office?

Abraham Lincoln. He'd put these NYT jerks in irons and deport Kerry and Murtha and Pelosi.

Yippee!
 
Calabrio said:
Build an argument.

I get so tired of being making this bold statements, full of implications, but lacking any specific charges or arguements.

How is he selling it America. How is that idea selling out the country? Is it even going to be implamented? What is wrong with it? Is it even realistic?

I shouldn't have to address all of those issues in order to respond to a post.

But no, we haven't been sold out.



If you even scanned the website you would see no implications were made, it is already being implemented, it's a done deal-no argument is required. Thousands of American workers are being put in jepordy of losing their jobs, all without any news coverage or Congressional oversite.
 
Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America Prosperity Agenda
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/03/20050323-1.html

PROSPERITY AGENDA

Promoting Growth, Competitiveness and Quality of Life

To enhance the competitive position of North American industries in the global marketplace and to provide greater economic opportunity for all of our societies, while maintaining high standards of health and safety for our people, the United States, Mexico, and Canada will work together, and in consultation with stakeholders, to:

Improve Productivity

* Regulatory Cooperation to Generate Growth

o Lower costs for North American businesses, producers, and consumers and maximize trade in goods and services across our borders by striving to ensure compatibility of regulations and standards and eliminating redundant testing and certification requirements.

o Strengthen regulatory cooperation, including at the onset of the regulatory process, to minimize barriers.

* Sectoral Collaboration to Facilitate Business

o Explore new approaches to enhance the competitiveness of North American industries by promoting greater cooperation in sectors such as autos, steel, and other sectors identified through consultations.

o Strengthen North America's energy markets by working together, according to our respective legal frameworks, to increase reliable energy supplies for the region's needs and development, by facilitating investment in energy infrastructure, technology improvements, production and reliable delivery of energy; by enhancing cooperation to identify and utilize best practices, and to streamline and update regulations; and by promoting energy efficiency, conservation, and technologies such as clean coal, carbon capture and storage, hydrogen and renewable energy.

o Improve the safety and efficiency of North America's transportation system by expanding market access, facilitating multimodal corridors, reducing congestion, and alleviating bottlenecks at the border that inhibit growth and threaten our quality of life (e.g., expand air services agreements, increase airspace capacity, initiate an Aviation Safety Agreement process, pursue smart border information technology initiatives, ensure compatibility of regulations and standards in areas such as statistics, motor carrier and rail safety, and working with responsible jurisdictions, develop mechanisms for enhanced road infrastructure planning, including an inventory of border transportation infrastructure in major corridors and public-private financing instruments for border projects).

o Work towards the freer flow of capital and the efficient provision of financial services throughout North America (e.g., facilitate cross-border electronic access to stock exchanges without compromising investor protection, further collaboration on training programs for bank, insurance and securities regulators and supervisors, seek ways to improve convenience and cost of insurance coverage for carriers engaged in cross border commerce).

o Stimulate and accelerate cross-border technology trade by preventing unnecessary barriers from being erected (e.g., agree on mutual recognition of technical requirements for telecommunications equipment, tests and certification; adopt a framework of common principles for e-commerce).

* Investing in Our People

o Work through the Partnership for Prosperity and the Canada-Mexico Partnership to strengthen our cooperation in the development of human capital in North America, including by expanding partnerships in higher education, science, and technology.

Reduce the Costs of Trade

* Efficient Movement of Goods

o Lower the transaction costs of trade in goods by liberalizing the requirements for obtaining duty-free treatment under NAFTA, including through the reduction of "rules of origin" costs on goods traded between our countries. Each country should have in place procedures to allow speedy implementation of rules of origin modifications.

o Increase competitiveness by exploring additional supply chain options, such as by rationalizing minor differences in external tariffs, consistent with multilateral negotiation strategies.

* Efficient Movement of People

o Identify measures to facilitate further the movement of business persons within North America and discuss ways to reduce taxes and other charges residents face when returning from other North American countries.

Enhance the Quality of Life

* Joint Stewardship of our Environment

o Expand cooperative work to improve air quality, including reducing sulphur in fuels, mercury emissions, and marine emissions.

o Enhance water quality by working bilaterally, trilaterally and through existing regional bodies such as the International Boundary and Water Commission and the International Joint Commission.

o Combat the spread of invasive species in both coastal and fresh waters.

o Enhance partnerships and incentives to conserve habitat for migratory species, thereby protecting biodiversity.

o Develop complementary strategies for oceans stewardship by emphasizing an ecosystem approach, coordinating and integrating existing marine managed areas, and improving fisheries management.

* Creating a Safer and More Reliable Food Supply while Facilitating Agricultural Trade

o Pursue common approaches to enhanced food safety and accelerate the identification, management and recovery from foodborne and animal and plant disease hazards, which will also facilitate trade.

o Enhance laboratory coordination and information-sharing by conducting targeted bilateral and/or trilateral activities to establish a mechanism to exchange information on laboratory methods and to build confidence regarding each other's testing procedures and results.

o Increase cooperation in the development of regulatory policy related to the agricultural biotechnology sectors in Canada, Mexico and the United States, through the work of the North American Biotechnology Initiative (NABI).

* Protect Our People from Disease

o Enhance public health cross-border coordination in infectious diseases surveillance, prevention and control (e.g., pandemic influenza).

o Improve the health of our indigenous people through targeted bilateral and/or trilateral activities, including in health promotion, health education, disease prevention, and research.

o Building upon cooperative efforts under the International Conference on Harmonization of Technical Requirements for Registration of Pharmaceuticals for Human Use, work towards the identification and adoption of best practices relating to the registration of medicinal products.

# # #
 
biglou71 said:
George S Patton. Ofcourse the Media would tear him apart, and Americans today are far to weak minded and too easily influenced to actually elect him. But he would be my choice, we are in a time of war, and as such need a leader who is a warrior, not a politician.

Actual presidents? That one would take some thought, and I am getting ready to leave work now, so I will have to get back to you on that.


Patton should be in Iraq. Washington should be in Washington.
 

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