2nd gear gone?
- Thread starter AbrahamLincoln
- Start date
AbrahamLincoln
Dedicated LVC Member
lol ill take it off it was for a member who wanted to see a two tone!
AbrahamLincoln
Dedicated LVC Member
the guys ive talked to said nothing about a rooster comb? or about changing the shifter? Can anyone confirm this?
I was just told its no different from putting the 98 in with the only exception just being that the speedo will be off by a portion because of the 8 tooth so you are correct it would have to be swapped but i could give two shaznits about the speedo being off - especially when i can get it pretty close with the different speedo corrector gears out there. Which is something i can live with?
I was just told its no different from putting the 98 in with the only exception just being that the speedo will be off by a portion because of the 8 tooth so you are correct it would have to be swapped but i could give two shaznits about the speedo being off - especially when i can get it pretty close with the different speedo corrector gears out there. Which is something i can live with?
Staffamerica74
Dedicated LVC Member
rooster comb needs to be swapped not too bad to do tho... I say get the mark trans just for simplicity and it is cheaper.
you are correct.
Actually none of the things that need to be done are a big deal nor hard to accomplish.. but. they are very easy to SCREW UP.
when you swap the rooster comb, dont you have to do something with the OD band? and.. if you dont get it right, you just converted your 4R70W into a 3R70W? (lose 4th gear?)
I chose the path that gave me the less chances to screw up... some may choose to follow a more difficult path.. call me lazy I guess.
HAHA
AbrahamLincoln
Dedicated LVC Member
there I fixed it for you.
DING DING DING we have a winner and the price is RIGHT too!
AbrahamLincoln
Dedicated LVC Member
yea, sheez but its 3 and a half hours away... ill probably go with the 98 mark trans even though i want to go with the mustang gt just to spite you! haha.!
I forget who i talked to but they said they didnt mess with the shifter or the rooster comb but said the shifter was a bit out of place but still worked. You have a point though less head ache the better but there has been some very good success storys with the 2001-2002 mustang gt guys!
I found a 98 mark trans about an hour away from about 350 as well so ill take it from there. Driving three and a half hours is pretty far.
I forget who i talked to but they said they didnt mess with the shifter or the rooster comb but said the shifter was a bit out of place but still worked. You have a point though less head ache the better but there has been some very good success storys with the 2001-2002 mustang gt guys!
I found a 98 mark trans about an hour away from about 350 as well so ill take it from there. Driving three and a half hours is pretty far.
I know, and I dont blame you.
you are a very determined individual and that isn't a bad thing.
NOW, if you are going to pull the trans out by itself, just to spite me you are really REALLY doing alot of extra work and making it harder on yourself...just to spite me.
IF you are hell bent on doing it that way.. HEED this advice.
when you get the new trans.. stand over it with one leg on each side and look down at the transmission case.
your gonna see 4 holes facing up.. on little brackets that extend out to the sides of the trans.
These were used by the machines on the assembly line to "grab" the transmission.
you need to remove with a sawzall the front one on the drivers side.
THAT is the booger that gets hung up under the car.
IF you take that thing off the new trans it will go in ALOT easier.
THEN.. use the sawzall and saw the same one of the transmission that is in your car, THEN the danged thing wont get stuck up there when you get the bolts out.
IF you listen to ANYTHING i ever said.. listen to this.
dont know if it was mentioned or not...
but you are going to want to pull the pan on your old trans and remove the TCC solenoid, and put it in the new trans.
the solenoid looks like a miniature nitrous soleniod and it does much the same thing.
the first gens were analog and the second gens were digital pulse modulated or some crap like that.
but you are going to want to pull the pan on your old trans and remove the TCC solenoid, and put it in the new trans.
the solenoid looks like a miniature nitrous soleniod and it does much the same thing.
the first gens were analog and the second gens were digital pulse modulated or some crap like that.
AbrahamLincoln
Dedicated LVC Member
gotcha so just to summarize this all
98 Mark to Gen I And say 99+ mustang GT trans to gen I BOTH apply below
-sawzaw driverside assembly line brackets for ease of install
-use original Torque Converter Selenoid to put in late model trans. It will have to be modified slightly using a dremel in order to fit the gen I into the gen II or Mustang
-Use original MLPS.
-Repin the factory harness to attatch to late model trans using Tccoa.com diagram.
IF using a Mustang Trans repeat steps above but heed this.
- 99+2000 mustang gt trans can have 6 or 8 bolt - marks are 6 bolt. If one gets an 8 bolt trans you would have to reuse the marks flexplate and torque converter to the newer trans so be able to mount it up.
-01,02 trans - Are all 6 bolt from the factory so you can bolt it right up
- Mustang Gt Trans post (im guessing 98?) 99+ have 8 spline output shaft gears (where the plastic speedo gears mesh) so the speedometer will be off -
It is fixable if you have stock rear gear ratio's, by using an orange speedo gear. (mark's have 7 they have 8 spline) OR YOUR SPEEDO WILL BE OFF (pertaining to Gen I's)
If you have higher R and P - The only thing you can do is open the trans and swap speed output shafts OR use a speed cal, im not sure if anyone has done this feel free to comment if it works or not.
XLRVIII - Also pointed out but I have yet to confrim that the shifter needs to be adjusted??? And also the Rooster Comb needs to be reversed or turned around? I'm sure hell comment on this.
Ive learned from others who've done the swap that they have had no trouble with these areas but its out there for discussion... there is some instance where this would be the case but it still goes in fine but the shifters arn't precisely matched to the diagram inside the car but it still has the same layout?
bottom line - mustang tranny is about the same difficulty to install as the 98 mark but some things will be funky with the mustang but the mustang will work. Funky being getting the right speedometer reading - as far as the Speedcal goes that could be the deciding factor for me if someone chimes in if it doesnt work. But also im going to call a local trans shop and see how much he would charge to swap the shafts if its worth the money that could always be a deciding factor for me.
2003+ i have been told don't work due there being no output for the speedo cable but I have also read on here that that didnt start till post 04???? If someones ever handled a 03 mach1 or maruader trans PLEASE chime in, that would be a sweet trans to have in the mark.
There are members with 98 mark trannies swapped into gen I's and a select few of members ive come across with 99-02 mustang gt's trans. So it CAN be done. So hopefully if someone comes across this will clarify a lot of stuff that i have searched through and discussed with others as a reference.
I'm not sure if the sn-95 automatic v8's have a 7 or 8 spline but if they have a 7 spline that could possibly be a trans to swap in - as im assuming its as easy of a swap as the 98 mark trans?
The reason im hip on the mustangs is there are far more mustang parts in the salvage yards with less miles because of how much more common the mustang is to the mark. More common means cheaper more abundant.
98 Mark to Gen I And say 99+ mustang GT trans to gen I BOTH apply below
-sawzaw driverside assembly line brackets for ease of install
-use original Torque Converter Selenoid to put in late model trans. It will have to be modified slightly using a dremel in order to fit the gen I into the gen II or Mustang
-Use original MLPS.
-Repin the factory harness to attatch to late model trans using Tccoa.com diagram.
IF using a Mustang Trans repeat steps above but heed this.
- 99+2000 mustang gt trans can have 6 or 8 bolt - marks are 6 bolt. If one gets an 8 bolt trans you would have to reuse the marks flexplate and torque converter to the newer trans so be able to mount it up.
-01,02 trans - Are all 6 bolt from the factory so you can bolt it right up
- Mustang Gt Trans post (im guessing 98?) 99+ have 8 spline output shaft gears (where the plastic speedo gears mesh) so the speedometer will be off -
It is fixable if you have stock rear gear ratio's, by using an orange speedo gear. (mark's have 7 they have 8 spline) OR YOUR SPEEDO WILL BE OFF (pertaining to Gen I's)
If you have higher R and P - The only thing you can do is open the trans and swap speed output shafts OR use a speed cal, im not sure if anyone has done this feel free to comment if it works or not.
XLRVIII - Also pointed out but I have yet to confrim that the shifter needs to be adjusted??? And also the Rooster Comb needs to be reversed or turned around? I'm sure hell comment on this.
Ive learned from others who've done the swap that they have had no trouble with these areas but its out there for discussion... there is some instance where this would be the case but it still goes in fine but the shifters arn't precisely matched to the diagram inside the car but it still has the same layout?
bottom line - mustang tranny is about the same difficulty to install as the 98 mark but some things will be funky with the mustang but the mustang will work. Funky being getting the right speedometer reading - as far as the Speedcal goes that could be the deciding factor for me if someone chimes in if it doesnt work. But also im going to call a local trans shop and see how much he would charge to swap the shafts if its worth the money that could always be a deciding factor for me.
2003+ i have been told don't work due there being no output for the speedo cable but I have also read on here that that didnt start till post 04???? If someones ever handled a 03 mach1 or maruader trans PLEASE chime in, that would be a sweet trans to have in the mark.
There are members with 98 mark trannies swapped into gen I's and a select few of members ive come across with 99-02 mustang gt's trans. So it CAN be done. So hopefully if someone comes across this will clarify a lot of stuff that i have searched through and discussed with others as a reference.
I'm not sure if the sn-95 automatic v8's have a 7 or 8 spline but if they have a 7 spline that could possibly be a trans to swap in - as im assuming its as easy of a swap as the 98 mark trans?
The reason im hip on the mustangs is there are far more mustang parts in the salvage yards with less miles because of how much more common the mustang is to the mark. More common means cheaper more abundant.
hey trans guys
my trans works,except I have no od and reverse and my car goes forward in all gears,my fliud is dirty if I change it is there a chance my trans will work right??and is there a separate thing to check for od
my trans works,except I have no od and reverse and my car goes forward in all gears,my fliud is dirty if I change it is there a chance my trans will work right??and is there a separate thing to check for od