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ive had my ls for almost 4 years and this is my first issue. got an 06 with v8 it now has 42000 miles on it.
my car would barely turn over sunday but still had lights etc. i tried to jump doing exactly how the manuel and said now i have nothing, completely dead. i'm afraid i might of tripped the anti theft because as i started it when trying to jump the alarm went off. any ideas on what i might of done or if i need to pull the battery and charge? thanks
 
cardshoopfan said:
ive had my ls for almost 4 years and this is my first issue. got an 06 with v8 it now has 42000 miles on it.
my car would barely turn over sunday but still had lights etc. i tried to jump doing exactly how the manuel and said now i have nothing, completely dead. i'm afraid i might of tripped the anti theft because as i started it when trying to jump the alarm went off. any ideas on what i might of done or if i need to pull the battery and charge? thanks
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If you connected the cables backwards at either end, then you may be in for some expensive repairs.

What happened while you were attempting the jump start?

Do any lights come on now?

Do you have a volt meter?
 
JVIP said:
you cant jump start these cars they will blow up like Hiroshima
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Only if the vent tube isn't correctly connected to the correct battery. Even if the vent tube isn't connected, explosions are still rare (but not worth the risk).
 
My car does the same thing if it doesn't have enough juice to fully start it will die and the alarm will go off. I'd get the battery tested, replace if needed. Throw it on a charger and give it another go. If you followed the manual I'm pretty sure you didn't screw anything up, it's pretty cut and dry.

If you replace the battery, many replace with a Motorcraft battery, Optima Red Top (Normal use), Optima Yellow Top (Used with audio system, lights, etc.). I've had the Red Top in my car with a system now for almost two years and it's died twice. Not the battery though, the remote relay? in my amp was bad causing it to always draw power even when the car was off.

Just my opinion I'm sure someone else will chime in with how to properly diagnose further problems.

Good luck.
 
jmtiseo said:
My car does the same thing if it doesn't have enough juice to fully start it will die and the alarm will go off. I'd get the battery tested, replace if needed. Throw it on a charger and give it another go. If you followed the manual I'm pretty sure you didn't screw anything up, it's pretty cut and dry.

If you replace the battery, many replace with a Motorcraft battery, Optima Red Top (Normal use), Optima Yellow Top (Used with audio system, lights, etc.). I've had the Red Top in my car with a system now for almost two years and it's died twice. Not the battery though, the remote relay? in my amp was bad causing it to always draw power even when the car was off.

Just my opinion I'm sure someone else will chime in with how to properly diagnose further problems.

Good luck.
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I agree that a bad battery is the most likely problem. I disagree with the use of an Optima battery in the LS, as does Optima themselves. Some have modified the Optima to connect it's vent to the factory vent tube. If done correctly, I think that is okay.
 
thanks guys, this is the original battery. i just didnt understand why it had some juice before trying to jump now its totally dead after the jump.
no lights come on, the thing is totally dead.
i did not connect cables wrong, i did just as the manuel said with putting negative on spare tire bolt, turning the keys to the on position before cranking etc. went by the book.
 
cardshoopfan said:
thanks guys, this is the original battery. i just didnt understand why it had some juice before trying to jump now its totally dead after the jump.
no lights come on, the thing is totally dead.
i did not connect cables wrong, i did just as the manuel said with putting negative on spare tire bolt, turning the keys to the on position before cranking etc. went by the book.
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It's possible that you blew a fuse, or that the battery has gone completely open circuit. Either way, you might as well start by replacing the battery with a known good one.
 
Try and jump again... if you lights come back on when you connect to the other car... your prob. fine and just need a new battery...
 
joegr said:
I agree that a bad battery is the most likely problem. I disagree with the use of an Optima battery in the LS, as does Optima themselves. Some have modified the Optima to connect it's vent to the factory vent tube. If done correctly, I think that is okay.
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I have seen this many times where people would mention to vent the battery. I have looked at it multiple time to no avail. Where is the vent on the bloody thing?
 
the vent hose is right next to the neg. terminal...not sure where it runs to
 
Its a rubber hose that vents out under the car.

Hard to miss...as its the only piece of rubber hose anywhere near the battery.

If for some reason yours is gone just make it yourself. drill a hole, install a rubber grommet and slide a rubber hose thru there and put some sealant around it and hook it up to the battery. voila you now have a vent tube.
 
Battery vent tube:

Web Lincoln LS Battery 1.jpg


Web Lincoln LS Battery 2.jpg
 
JVIP said:
you cant jump start these cars they will blow up like Hiroshima
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I beg to differ....

IF you do it properly, it is safe, at least in my multiple experience.

Last year I was having a slowly fading battery. It was not holding charge for more than a weekend at first and I got weird random messages from the info(Error) message\center. Then the charge got so bad it would barely hold it over night, and if I had the radio on while sitting in a parking lot for just say 20 minutes, the car might not start. Needless to say I got lots of practice jumping the battery last year.

The key is 1) Jump at the battery, not the distribution box under the hood(not sure if that even works) 2) Connect the first end of the jumper to the dead battery FIRST. 3) Then connect the opposite end of the jumper POSITIVE to the "donor" battery. 4) Then connect the negative lead to somewhere grounded on the "donor" car. NOT THE BATTERY TERMINAL. The engine block is best or large metal parts of the body are good.

The reason for #4 is that if there are any sparks created they will not be near the dead battery, where possible hydrogen gas is. And, Connecting to anything BUT the "donor" battery negative terminal, keeps sparks away from the other possible source of hydrogen gas.

Just advice from a guy who owns at least 3 GOOD quality(not those cheap china specials) Jumpers and 3 or 4 Battery chargers, because he is too cheap or lazy to buy a new battery when things start to get weak. Haven't blown myself up yet in over 40 years of trying.

NO SPARKS NEAR EITHER BATTERY.

Jim Henderson
 
If anyone looks closely...you will see that the grounding point intended to be used on the LS when being jumped is in fact the post coming out from the spare tire.
 
Sorry fellas, I'll explain it a skosche more. I have the hose for the vent, my Optima Red Top doesn't have a vent to stick the tube to. It looks all sealed up from what I can see. That's why I'm befuddled on venting it, the battery doesn't have a vent.

Apology on the thread jack.
 
cardshoopfan said:
thanks guys, this is the original battery. i just didnt understand why it had some juice before trying to jump now its totally dead after the jump.
no lights come on, the thing is totally dead.
i did not connect cables wrong, i did just as the manuel said with putting negative on spare tire bolt, turning the keys to the on position before cranking etc. went by the book.
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We are in 2012 if its the original battery that makes your battery 6 years old, a good battery usually lasts 3 years.

If nothing is happening after the jump this means one of your battery post came lose even tho it looks like its on there, move the posts around and you will see the trunk light come on if its the case.
 
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