Welcome! You have entered [The LVC Lounge] at 8:38 pm
[juan rodrigo] 8:40 pm: hey how are you?
[mespock] 8:41 pm: Time to go sorry school time
[juan rodrigo] 8:41 pm: take care rich nice talking to you
[mespock] 8:42 pm: see ya
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[brentalan] 8:56 pm: hey guys
[Joeychgo] 8:56 pm: Hi brent
[brentalan] 8:56 pm: Carlisle was a good time as always
[brentalan] 8:57 pm: I like the site revamp
[brentalan] 8:57 pm: looks great
[brentalan] 8:57 pm: Whats new?
[brentalan] 8:57 pm: nobody here tonight?
[brentalan] 8:58 pm: I'm a bit late...
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[pepperman] 8:59 pm: Hey
[The LVC Lounge]: Nysbadmk8 has entered at 8:59 pm
[Nysbadmk8] 8:59 pm: Yo.
[pepperman] 9:00 pm: Joey you going to invite rich to chat
[Joeychgo] 9:00 pm: rich will be back in bout 20 mins
[Joeychgo] 9:00 pm: yo yo
[pepperman] 9:00 pm: ok
[Joeychgo] 9:00 pm: hows everyone tonight
[Nysbadmk8] 9:00 pm: I got a credit card machine today... It too much fun lol
[pepperman] 9:00 pm: cool
[Joeychgo] 9:01 pm: LOL
[Joeychgo] 9:01 pm: get an atm too
[Joeychgo] 9:01 pm: try to get people to pay cash
[Joeychgo] 9:01 pm:
[Nysbadmk8] 9:01 pm: im not that big yet
[Joeychgo] 9:02 pm: you can buy them on ebay
[brentalan] 9:02 pm: Hey guys
[Joeychgo] 9:02 pm: yes?
[pepperman] 9:02 pm: what is it that you do
[Nysbadmk8] 9:02 pm: Me?
[pepperman] 9:02 pm: yeah
[Nysbadmk8] 9:03 pm: Professional Detailer
[pepperman] 9:03 pm: cool
[Nysbadmk8] 9:03 pm: im also a meguiars warehouse
[juan rodrigo] 9:06 pm: what do you think of that porter cable polisher?
[Nysbadmk8] 9:07 pm: dead silence
[Nysbadmk8] 9:07 pm: I use it everyday in the shop, i also sell a meguiars branded Porter cable
[juan rodrigo] 9:07 pm: any good?
[The LVC Lounge]: Ricksquickviii has entered at 9:08 pm
[Nysbadmk8] 9:08 pm: Of course
[pepperman] 9:09 pm: what do they cost
[Nysbadmk8] 9:10 pm: porter cables?
[pepperman] 9:10 pm: yeah
[The LVC Lounge]: StraDog has entered at 9:11 pm
[juan rodrigo] 9:11 pm: or meguiars
[Nysbadmk8] 9:11 pm: retail is 220 i sell them for 160
[StraDog] 9:11 pm: sup fellas
[pepperman] 9:11 pm: i'll keep that in mind
[pepperman] 9:11 pm: hey stradog
[StraDog] 9:12 pm: hey nysbadmk8 what's a good 3 step wax...
[StraDog] 9:12 pm: Mothers, mequires ?
[StraDog] 9:12 pm: for black... lol
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[The LVC Lounge]: lsbit has entered at 9:13 pm
[lsbit] 9:13 pm: Hello...
[the_continental_kid] 9:13 pm: hey folks
[pepperman] 9:13 pm: hey
[lsbit] 9:13 pm: Hey Gray...we still need to get together some time...
[StraDog] 9:13 pm: hey Nysbamk8..... u there
[brentalan] 9:13 pm: Hello
[pepperman] 9:14 pm: hello
[lsbit] 9:14 pm: Joey....did you get the tech links fixed??
[GrayGhost1] 9:14 pm: You got it! Just name a time and place!
[Nysbadmk8] 9:14 pm: Im here
[Joeychgo] 9:14 pm: I thought so
[Joeychgo] 9:14 pm: let me know if their not
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[the_continental_kid] 9:14 pm: I love the jetson's sound
[GrayGhost1] 9:14 pm: I'm heading on vacation on Friday for a week and I'm so ready for it!
[StraDog] 9:14 pm: ok.... what 3 step wax do u recommend for my black mark
[Joeychgo] 9:14 pm: but you can always get tot he tech pages on the navbar
[lsbit] 9:14 pm: I know I owe you some pics for one of the pages I wrote...
[StraDog] 9:15 pm: I know mequires got one out.... how bout mothers
[lsbit] 9:15 pm: Cool on the vacation!
[Nysbadmk8] 9:15 pm: You want to do 3 steps?
[StraDog] 9:15 pm: well i never did it
[StraDog] 9:15 pm: and I want to get an ultimate deep shine
[GrayGhost1] 9:15 pm: Joey, QuikLS has sent you some tech articles to put up. Have you had time to link 'em up?
[Nysbadmk8] 9:15 pm: first what kind of condition is the paint in? does it have swirls?
[StraDog] 9:15 pm: yes
[GrayGhost1] 9:16 pm: I've got about 10 from LLSOC I'll be sending you soon.
[brentalan] 9:16 pm: I like Meguiar's gold glass which is one step though
[lsbit] 9:16 pm: Mothers cleaner and polish is the easiest to use byhand...I think. I like meguiars though.
[StraDog] 9:16 pm: ok
[Nysbadmk8] 9:16 pm: Mothers wont get you anywhere
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[StraDog] 9:16 pm: aight.
[lsbit] 9:17 pm: U'd be surprised. Mother's 3 step will take out swirls. I usually use Meguires #7 for polish though
[GrayGhost1] 9:17 pm: I had more How To tech articles on LLSOC than anyone else. Too bad for them! hehe
[Nysbadmk8] 9:17 pm: meguiars gold class is just a wax, thats not going to produce a deep shine unless your paint is perfect
[lsbit] 9:17 pm: I need to get the rest of my tech articles up there.... I could be in the running
[StraDog] 9:17 pm: wtf
[lsbit] 9:17 pm: I did pics of balljoint replacement
[GrayGhost1] 9:18 pm: that's cool!
[StraDog] 9:18 pm: I used mequires gold class and it didn't take out swirl marks
[Nysbadmk8] 9:18 pm: Isbit... Real quick I run a Professional detailing shop, im just trying to give stradog some quick advice... lol
[StraDog] 9:18 pm: so I don't like the wax... lol
[Nysbadmk8] 9:18 pm: Meguiars gold class wont remove swirls
[StraDog] 9:18 pm: ok
[brentalan] 9:18 pm: ok, all i know is it looks good on my car...
[StraDog] 9:18 pm: which is a good swirl remover
[lsbit] 9:18 pm: nys:coool. All just my opinions
[Nysbadmk8] 9:19 pm: no WAX will remove swirls, they may hide some swirls
[brentalan] 9:19 pm: maybe I should try a 3 step or whatever to see the difference
[lsbit] 9:19 pm: Zaino is the deepest shine I have seen on my car, but it showed all the orange peel
[Nysbadmk8] 9:19 pm: stradog are you going to do this by hand?
[StraDog] 9:19 pm: yes
[Nysbadmk8] 9:19 pm: isbit- you need to cut the paint to remove the "peel"
[Nysbadmk8] 9:20 pm: your not going to get too far removing swirls by hand.
[lsbit] 9:20 pm: nys:yes...but the paint is old and thin. I am thinking of my 95 stang
[lsbit] 9:20 pm: nys: my LS REALLY needs help though
[StraDog] 9:20 pm: ok.... well I want to get the best shine out of the car by this weekend for a show....
[lsbit] 9:20 pm: it feels like sandpaper
[StraDog] 9:20 pm: i don't need it perfect
[lsbit] 9:20 pm: from the NE... Damn...
[Nysbadmk8] 9:20 pm: is the old paint a single stage or clear coat?
[brentalan] 9:20 pm: speaking of finishes, what do you guys do to clear the headlights?
[brentalan] 9:21 pm: my headlights are all sandblasted
[StraDog] 9:21 pm: well.... I had several parts of the car repainted.... so it's both... LOL
[Nysbadmk8] 9:21 pm: stradog, your best combo would be meguiars medallion paint cleaner as your first step, and then to top it with meguiars
Nxt tech wax.
[StraDog] 9:21 pm: looks bad in direct sunlight...
[lsbit] 9:21 pm: clear...some of the panels are getting black on my towels now with the cleaner.
[StraDog] 9:21 pm: ok
[StraDog] 9:21 pm: sounds good
[Nysbadmk8] 9:21 pm: clearcoat flaiure.. ouch
[GrayGhost1] 9:22 pm: lsbit....shoot me an email at info@lskoncepts.com when you want together.
[lsbit] 9:22 pm: brent:That sucks. Some people have used fine sand paper and then polish. I used polish and it helped a little
[StraDog] 9:22 pm: that's wet sanding.... correct ?
[lsbit] 9:22 pm: Gray:sounds good. Do you ever frequent the local car get togethers?
[GrayGhost1] 9:23 pm: yeah...there's one every Saturday at the old K-mart shopping center on Clinton Hwy.
[StraDog] 9:23 pm: I would love to have my Mark professionally wet sanded...
[GrayGhost1] 9:23 pm: i won't be there this week but i'm usually there.
[brentalan] 9:23 pm: Wet sand with fine sandpaper, then polish?
[GrayGhost1] 9:23 pm: also, I'll be at the Masters Expo Car Show this year at the Chilhowee Park.
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[StraDog] 9:24 pm: i'm not too knewledgeable on wet sanding
[GrayGhost1] 9:24 pm: i'll have to find the dates on it.
[lsbit] 9:24 pm: brent:yes...
[Nysbadmk8] 9:24 pm: stradog, your mark would come out flawless from a Pro-wetsanding but your wallet would be 400-500 bucks lighter
[The LVC Lounge]: 95ltc has entered at 9:24 pm
[brentalan] 9:24 pm: I tried meguiars clear plastic and that didn't do a whole lot
[lsbit] 9:24 pm: Gray:let me know. I got to Kmart now and then. I was there two weeks ago in my Mustang
[brentalan] 9:25 pm: a little better but not much
[lsbit] 9:25 pm: The mustang was easy to spot with the Kenne Bell on it, but I removed that now...
[lsbit] 9:25 pm: brent:I used a 3m polish...didn't help. Northeast sand got to them
[GrayGhost1] 9:25 pm: yeah, i haven't been the last couple of weeks due to weddings and crap like that.
[GrayGhost1] 9:25 pm: however, i'll hit it next Sat.
[StraDog] 9:25 pm: yea I know, Nysbadmk8, My uncle does body repairs for a living... and i'm sure he can do it.. but I know it will be costly
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[Nysbadmk8] 9:27 pm: Next best thing would be to cut the paint with a wool pad and a rotary
[StraDog] 9:28 pm: Hmm.... how bout a composite buff ?
[lsbit] 9:28 pm: I see Trucks! on TV and that Stacey makes me think I can re-do my cars and customize them when I watch him...I am sure I
would destroy it in reality.
[StraDog] 9:28 pm: would that give a nice finish ?
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[juan rodrigo] 9:29 pm: has anyone seen a nice hood on a gen 2 car
[Nysbadmk8] 9:29 pm: If done by a Pro, yes
[Nysbadmk8] 9:29 pm: Stacy has so much background help its not even funny
[juan rodrigo] 9:29 pm: i mean custom
[StraDog] 9:29 pm: I have seen a photoshopped cowl hood on a gen 2
[StraDog] 9:30 pm: go to www.lincolnmotorsport.com and go to the gallery
[lsbit] 9:30 pm:
[lsbit] 9:30 pm: I was looking at '05 Mustangs, but I think I would have to have it wet sanded before I would drive it.
[StraDog] 9:30 pm: go through the pics... it's on a black gen 2
[lsbit] 9:30 pm: ANyone ever have a NEW car wet sanded to get the orange peel out?
[lsbit] 9:31 pm: They look bad!
[lsbit] 9:31 pm: As in awful
[StraDog] 9:31 pm: orange peel ?
[Nysbadmk8] 9:31 pm: yea, ive wet sanded my 03 vette and Cobra
[StraDog] 9:31 pm: what is the term orange peel mean in paint ?
[lsbit] 9:32 pm: nys: stud....I would be scared to do that. Adding 300 hp or changing mechanical stuff...no prob...paint...ooooof
[lsbit] 9:33 pm: stra:look at an 05 mustang...that'll show ya. It looks like you are looking at an orange...that texture
[Nysbadmk8] 9:33 pm: Well the vette does 9's and cobra does 10's so its a nightmare in both worlds
[Nysbadmk8] 9:33 pm: orange peel is reffering to the texture of the paint on a car
[lsbit] 9:33 pm: NYS:How much would that job cost and does it weaken the paint???
[Nysbadmk8] 9:34 pm: kinda like a "orange peel" lol
[StraDog] 9:34 pm: oh i seeee
[Nysbadmk8] 9:34 pm: to wetsand a cobra/vette Those jobs i do hourly at 35 and hour. Most caes 12-15 hours
[StraDog] 9:35 pm: #$%^&*
[lsbit] 9:35 pm: Any long term effects?
[lsbit] 9:36 pm: I know my '95 has thin clear coat
[lsbit] 9:36 pm: of course...it is 11 years old
[StraDog] 9:36 pm: Can I aquire the Mequires medallion paint cleaner at autozone ?
[lsbit] 9:36 pm: I still get compliments on it
[lsbit] 9:36 pm: I keep it up with Meguires #7 and cleaner every once in a while. The deck lid fades every month or two.
[Nysbadmk8] 9:37 pm: Your taking paint off the car... Most clear coats are 1mm thick... your removing about half of that.
[Nysbadmk8] 9:37 pm: No, the medallion stuff is discountinued, many online outlets have it. I have 3 cases left
[StraDog] 9:38 pm: what techniques do you use while waxing/ polishing your ride?
[lsbit] 9:38 pm: NYS:what other maintainance you do to your car wears on the clear coat
[Nysbadmk8] 9:38 pm: polishing remove clear...
[Nysbadmk8] 9:38 pm: other the that car washes
[StraDog] 9:38 pm: oh ok..
[lsbit] 9:39 pm: Just high speed though right???? Not like a #7???
[lsbit] 9:39 pm: also...do cleaners like mothers remove clear?
[Nysbadmk8] 9:40 pm: Stradog, I polish my cars monthly Not just wax them but i "feed" the paint I also use a Rotary buffer with a foam pad or a
PC to polish and wax my cars, gives much more action to clean the paint then by hand. I also clay bar my cars bi-weekly
[Nysbadmk8] 9:40 pm: #7 is too much of a pure polish to remove clear
[Nysbadmk8] 9:40 pm: cleaner waxes do remove paint
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[lsbit] 9:41 pm: ok....making sure
[StraDog] 9:41 pm: ok... i might clay bar the car first... then use a nxt tech wax
[lsbit] 9:41 pm: clay every other wekk
[lsbit] 9:41 pm: holy hell
[StraDog] 9:41 pm: what type of techniques do you use while clay bar-ing ?
[lsbit] 9:41 pm: i wonder if clay would help my ls it feels more like it needs to be wet sanded it feels so bad. It looks OK but feels rough
[StraDog] 9:42 pm: how do you apply it... I have used it before... just wondering
[Nysbadmk8] 9:42 pm: when you clay bi-weekly its not to bad, its also like toweling off your car
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[GrayGhost1] 9:42 pm: Don, the Masters Auto Expo will be July 22-24. Here's a link to the show info: http://www.masterstv.com/autoexpo/
[lsbit] 9:42 pm: Thanks Gray
[GrayGhost1] 9:42 pm: I entered it last year and it was a fun time
[GrayGhost1] 9:43 pm: i'll probably do it this year too
[GrayGhost1] 9:43 pm: i'd love to have a big LvC presence there.
[lsbit] 9:43 pm: was that the show with the small import section at the top and all the other cars in the big lot...???
[GrayGhost1] 9:43 pm: yes
[Nysbadmk8] 9:43 pm: you wet the surface with asoapy water mix, i perfer 10 drops of dawn to 32oz of water, you spray the surface of your car
with the dawn solution, make sure the surface of the car is cool, you then kinda flatten the clay bar and with light to medium pressure rub the clay
bar back and forth untill you no longer feel the clay bar grabbing the paint. Keep the surface well lubed
[GrayGhost1] 9:44 pm: well...gotta run. 5:30 am comes early.
[lsbit] 9:44 pm: nys:just a lot of work to clean then repolish and paint...with a 2 yr old I barely have time to wash now..
[lsbit] 9:44 pm: take care!
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[lsbit] 9:45 pm: do you wash your car with dawn first?
[Nysbadmk8] 9:46 pm: I wash the car with meguiars Hyper wash
[Nysbadmk8] 9:46 pm: sim. to dawn
[StraDog] 9:47 pm: I was using the Mother's clay bar system
[StraDog] 9:48 pm: and I used the provided detail spray then clayed
[StraDog] 9:48 pm: should I just use dawn ?
[lsbit] 9:49 pm: I gotta run guys...take care
[Nysbadmk8] 9:49 pm: i do for cost reasons
[Nysbadmk8] 9:49 pm: plus the bar slides better
[StraDog] 9:49 pm: ok lsbit.. later brother
[Nysbadmk8] 9:49 pm: later
[StraDog] 9:50 pm: i'm going to this huge GMvsFord meet this weekend in Chicago. so I wanted the Mark looking decent
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[StraDog] 9:50 pm: but man the old paint needs some wet sanding
[Nysbadmk8] 9:51 pm: got ya
[StraDog] 9:51 pm: aight thanks a lot for your help
[StraDog] 9:51 pm: talk to ya later
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[juan rodrigo] 8:40 pm: hey how are you?
[mespock] 8:41 pm: Time to go sorry school time
[juan rodrigo] 8:41 pm: take care rich nice talking to you
[mespock] 8:42 pm: see ya
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[The LVC Lounge]: brentalan has entered at 8:56 pm
[brentalan] 8:56 pm: hey guys
[Joeychgo] 8:56 pm: Hi brent
[brentalan] 8:56 pm: Carlisle was a good time as always
[brentalan] 8:57 pm: I like the site revamp
[brentalan] 8:57 pm: looks great
[brentalan] 8:57 pm: Whats new?
[brentalan] 8:57 pm: nobody here tonight?
[brentalan] 8:58 pm: I'm a bit late...
[The LVC Lounge]: pepperman has entered at 8:59 pm
[pepperman] 8:59 pm: Hey
[The LVC Lounge]: Nysbadmk8 has entered at 8:59 pm
[Nysbadmk8] 8:59 pm: Yo.
[pepperman] 9:00 pm: Joey you going to invite rich to chat
[Joeychgo] 9:00 pm: rich will be back in bout 20 mins
[Joeychgo] 9:00 pm: yo yo
[pepperman] 9:00 pm: ok
[Joeychgo] 9:00 pm: hows everyone tonight
[Nysbadmk8] 9:00 pm: I got a credit card machine today... It too much fun lol
[pepperman] 9:00 pm: cool
[Joeychgo] 9:01 pm: LOL
[Joeychgo] 9:01 pm: get an atm too
[Joeychgo] 9:01 pm: try to get people to pay cash
[Joeychgo] 9:01 pm:
[Nysbadmk8] 9:01 pm: im not that big yet
[Joeychgo] 9:02 pm: you can buy them on ebay
[brentalan] 9:02 pm: Hey guys
[Joeychgo] 9:02 pm: yes?
[pepperman] 9:02 pm: what is it that you do
[Nysbadmk8] 9:02 pm: Me?
[pepperman] 9:02 pm: yeah
[Nysbadmk8] 9:03 pm: Professional Detailer
[pepperman] 9:03 pm: cool
[Nysbadmk8] 9:03 pm: im also a meguiars warehouse
[juan rodrigo] 9:06 pm: what do you think of that porter cable polisher?
[Nysbadmk8] 9:07 pm: dead silence
[Nysbadmk8] 9:07 pm: I use it everyday in the shop, i also sell a meguiars branded Porter cable
[juan rodrigo] 9:07 pm: any good?
[The LVC Lounge]: Ricksquickviii has entered at 9:08 pm
[Nysbadmk8] 9:08 pm: Of course
[pepperman] 9:09 pm: what do they cost
[Nysbadmk8] 9:10 pm: porter cables?
[pepperman] 9:10 pm: yeah
[The LVC Lounge]: StraDog has entered at 9:11 pm
[juan rodrigo] 9:11 pm: or meguiars
[Nysbadmk8] 9:11 pm: retail is 220 i sell them for 160
[StraDog] 9:11 pm: sup fellas
[pepperman] 9:11 pm: i'll keep that in mind
[pepperman] 9:11 pm: hey stradog
[StraDog] 9:12 pm: hey nysbadmk8 what's a good 3 step wax...
[StraDog] 9:12 pm: Mothers, mequires ?
[StraDog] 9:12 pm: for black... lol
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[The LVC Lounge]: lsbit has entered at 9:13 pm
[lsbit] 9:13 pm: Hello...
[the_continental_kid] 9:13 pm: hey folks
[pepperman] 9:13 pm: hey
[lsbit] 9:13 pm: Hey Gray...we still need to get together some time...
[StraDog] 9:13 pm: hey Nysbamk8..... u there
[brentalan] 9:13 pm: Hello
[pepperman] 9:14 pm: hello
[lsbit] 9:14 pm: Joey....did you get the tech links fixed??
[GrayGhost1] 9:14 pm: You got it! Just name a time and place!
[Nysbadmk8] 9:14 pm: Im here
[Joeychgo] 9:14 pm: I thought so
[Joeychgo] 9:14 pm: let me know if their not
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[the_continental_kid] 9:14 pm: I love the jetson's sound
[GrayGhost1] 9:14 pm: I'm heading on vacation on Friday for a week and I'm so ready for it!
[StraDog] 9:14 pm: ok.... what 3 step wax do u recommend for my black mark
[Joeychgo] 9:14 pm: but you can always get tot he tech pages on the navbar
[lsbit] 9:14 pm: I know I owe you some pics for one of the pages I wrote...
[StraDog] 9:15 pm: I know mequires got one out.... how bout mothers
[lsbit] 9:15 pm: Cool on the vacation!
[Nysbadmk8] 9:15 pm: You want to do 3 steps?
[StraDog] 9:15 pm: well i never did it
[StraDog] 9:15 pm: and I want to get an ultimate deep shine
[GrayGhost1] 9:15 pm: Joey, QuikLS has sent you some tech articles to put up. Have you had time to link 'em up?
[Nysbadmk8] 9:15 pm: first what kind of condition is the paint in? does it have swirls?
[StraDog] 9:15 pm: yes
[GrayGhost1] 9:16 pm: I've got about 10 from LLSOC I'll be sending you soon.
[brentalan] 9:16 pm: I like Meguiar's gold glass which is one step though
[lsbit] 9:16 pm: Mothers cleaner and polish is the easiest to use byhand...I think. I like meguiars though.
[StraDog] 9:16 pm: ok
[Nysbadmk8] 9:16 pm: Mothers wont get you anywhere
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[StraDog] 9:16 pm: aight.
[lsbit] 9:17 pm: U'd be surprised. Mother's 3 step will take out swirls. I usually use Meguires #7 for polish though
[GrayGhost1] 9:17 pm: I had more How To tech articles on LLSOC than anyone else. Too bad for them! hehe
[Nysbadmk8] 9:17 pm: meguiars gold class is just a wax, thats not going to produce a deep shine unless your paint is perfect
[lsbit] 9:17 pm: I need to get the rest of my tech articles up there.... I could be in the running
[StraDog] 9:17 pm: wtf
[lsbit] 9:17 pm: I did pics of balljoint replacement
[GrayGhost1] 9:18 pm: that's cool!
[StraDog] 9:18 pm: I used mequires gold class and it didn't take out swirl marks
[Nysbadmk8] 9:18 pm: Isbit... Real quick I run a Professional detailing shop, im just trying to give stradog some quick advice... lol
[StraDog] 9:18 pm: so I don't like the wax... lol
[Nysbadmk8] 9:18 pm: Meguiars gold class wont remove swirls
[StraDog] 9:18 pm: ok
[brentalan] 9:18 pm: ok, all i know is it looks good on my car...
[StraDog] 9:18 pm: which is a good swirl remover
[lsbit] 9:18 pm: nys:coool. All just my opinions
[Nysbadmk8] 9:19 pm: no WAX will remove swirls, they may hide some swirls
[brentalan] 9:19 pm: maybe I should try a 3 step or whatever to see the difference
[lsbit] 9:19 pm: Zaino is the deepest shine I have seen on my car, but it showed all the orange peel
[Nysbadmk8] 9:19 pm: stradog are you going to do this by hand?
[StraDog] 9:19 pm: yes
[Nysbadmk8] 9:19 pm: isbit- you need to cut the paint to remove the "peel"
[Nysbadmk8] 9:20 pm: your not going to get too far removing swirls by hand.
[lsbit] 9:20 pm: nys:yes...but the paint is old and thin. I am thinking of my 95 stang
[lsbit] 9:20 pm: nys: my LS REALLY needs help though
[StraDog] 9:20 pm: ok.... well I want to get the best shine out of the car by this weekend for a show....
[lsbit] 9:20 pm: it feels like sandpaper
[StraDog] 9:20 pm: i don't need it perfect
[lsbit] 9:20 pm: from the NE... Damn...
[Nysbadmk8] 9:20 pm: is the old paint a single stage or clear coat?
[brentalan] 9:20 pm: speaking of finishes, what do you guys do to clear the headlights?
[brentalan] 9:21 pm: my headlights are all sandblasted
[StraDog] 9:21 pm: well.... I had several parts of the car repainted.... so it's both... LOL
[Nysbadmk8] 9:21 pm: stradog, your best combo would be meguiars medallion paint cleaner as your first step, and then to top it with meguiars
Nxt tech wax.
[StraDog] 9:21 pm: looks bad in direct sunlight...
[lsbit] 9:21 pm: clear...some of the panels are getting black on my towels now with the cleaner.
[StraDog] 9:21 pm: ok
[StraDog] 9:21 pm: sounds good
[Nysbadmk8] 9:21 pm: clearcoat flaiure.. ouch
[GrayGhost1] 9:22 pm: lsbit....shoot me an email at info@lskoncepts.com when you want together.
[lsbit] 9:22 pm: brent:That sucks. Some people have used fine sand paper and then polish. I used polish and it helped a little
[StraDog] 9:22 pm: that's wet sanding.... correct ?
[lsbit] 9:22 pm: Gray:sounds good. Do you ever frequent the local car get togethers?
[GrayGhost1] 9:23 pm: yeah...there's one every Saturday at the old K-mart shopping center on Clinton Hwy.
[StraDog] 9:23 pm: I would love to have my Mark professionally wet sanded...
[GrayGhost1] 9:23 pm: i won't be there this week but i'm usually there.
[brentalan] 9:23 pm: Wet sand with fine sandpaper, then polish?
[GrayGhost1] 9:23 pm: also, I'll be at the Masters Expo Car Show this year at the Chilhowee Park.
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[StraDog] 9:24 pm: i'm not too knewledgeable on wet sanding
[GrayGhost1] 9:24 pm: i'll have to find the dates on it.
[lsbit] 9:24 pm: brent:yes...
[Nysbadmk8] 9:24 pm: stradog, your mark would come out flawless from a Pro-wetsanding but your wallet would be 400-500 bucks lighter
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[brentalan] 9:24 pm: I tried meguiars clear plastic and that didn't do a whole lot
[lsbit] 9:24 pm: Gray:let me know. I got to Kmart now and then. I was there two weeks ago in my Mustang
[brentalan] 9:25 pm: a little better but not much
[lsbit] 9:25 pm: The mustang was easy to spot with the Kenne Bell on it, but I removed that now...
[lsbit] 9:25 pm: brent:I used a 3m polish...didn't help. Northeast sand got to them
[GrayGhost1] 9:25 pm: yeah, i haven't been the last couple of weeks due to weddings and crap like that.
[GrayGhost1] 9:25 pm: however, i'll hit it next Sat.
[StraDog] 9:25 pm: yea I know, Nysbadmk8, My uncle does body repairs for a living... and i'm sure he can do it.. but I know it will be costly
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[Nysbadmk8] 9:27 pm: Next best thing would be to cut the paint with a wool pad and a rotary
[StraDog] 9:28 pm: Hmm.... how bout a composite buff ?
[lsbit] 9:28 pm: I see Trucks! on TV and that Stacey makes me think I can re-do my cars and customize them when I watch him...I am sure I
would destroy it in reality.
[StraDog] 9:28 pm: would that give a nice finish ?
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[juan rodrigo] 9:29 pm: has anyone seen a nice hood on a gen 2 car
[Nysbadmk8] 9:29 pm: If done by a Pro, yes
[Nysbadmk8] 9:29 pm: Stacy has so much background help its not even funny
[juan rodrigo] 9:29 pm: i mean custom
[StraDog] 9:29 pm: I have seen a photoshopped cowl hood on a gen 2
[StraDog] 9:30 pm: go to www.lincolnmotorsport.com and go to the gallery
[lsbit] 9:30 pm:
[lsbit] 9:30 pm: I was looking at '05 Mustangs, but I think I would have to have it wet sanded before I would drive it.
[StraDog] 9:30 pm: go through the pics... it's on a black gen 2
[lsbit] 9:30 pm: ANyone ever have a NEW car wet sanded to get the orange peel out?
[lsbit] 9:31 pm: They look bad!
[lsbit] 9:31 pm: As in awful
[StraDog] 9:31 pm: orange peel ?
[Nysbadmk8] 9:31 pm: yea, ive wet sanded my 03 vette and Cobra
[StraDog] 9:31 pm: what is the term orange peel mean in paint ?
[lsbit] 9:32 pm: nys: stud....I would be scared to do that. Adding 300 hp or changing mechanical stuff...no prob...paint...ooooof
[lsbit] 9:33 pm: stra:look at an 05 mustang...that'll show ya. It looks like you are looking at an orange...that texture
[Nysbadmk8] 9:33 pm: Well the vette does 9's and cobra does 10's so its a nightmare in both worlds
[Nysbadmk8] 9:33 pm: orange peel is reffering to the texture of the paint on a car
[lsbit] 9:33 pm: NYS:How much would that job cost and does it weaken the paint???
[Nysbadmk8] 9:34 pm: kinda like a "orange peel" lol
[StraDog] 9:34 pm: oh i seeee
[Nysbadmk8] 9:34 pm: to wetsand a cobra/vette Those jobs i do hourly at 35 and hour. Most caes 12-15 hours
[StraDog] 9:35 pm: #$%^&*
[lsbit] 9:35 pm: Any long term effects?
[lsbit] 9:36 pm: I know my '95 has thin clear coat
[lsbit] 9:36 pm: of course...it is 11 years old
[StraDog] 9:36 pm: Can I aquire the Mequires medallion paint cleaner at autozone ?
[lsbit] 9:36 pm: I still get compliments on it
[lsbit] 9:36 pm: I keep it up with Meguires #7 and cleaner every once in a while. The deck lid fades every month or two.
[Nysbadmk8] 9:37 pm: Your taking paint off the car... Most clear coats are 1mm thick... your removing about half of that.
[Nysbadmk8] 9:37 pm: No, the medallion stuff is discountinued, many online outlets have it. I have 3 cases left
[StraDog] 9:38 pm: what techniques do you use while waxing/ polishing your ride?
[lsbit] 9:38 pm: NYS:what other maintainance you do to your car wears on the clear coat
[Nysbadmk8] 9:38 pm: polishing remove clear...
[Nysbadmk8] 9:38 pm: other the that car washes
[StraDog] 9:38 pm: oh ok..
[lsbit] 9:39 pm: Just high speed though right???? Not like a #7???
[lsbit] 9:39 pm: also...do cleaners like mothers remove clear?
[Nysbadmk8] 9:40 pm: Stradog, I polish my cars monthly Not just wax them but i "feed" the paint I also use a Rotary buffer with a foam pad or a
PC to polish and wax my cars, gives much more action to clean the paint then by hand. I also clay bar my cars bi-weekly
[Nysbadmk8] 9:40 pm: #7 is too much of a pure polish to remove clear
[Nysbadmk8] 9:40 pm: cleaner waxes do remove paint
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[lsbit] 9:41 pm: ok....making sure
[StraDog] 9:41 pm: ok... i might clay bar the car first... then use a nxt tech wax
[lsbit] 9:41 pm: clay every other wekk
[lsbit] 9:41 pm: holy hell
[StraDog] 9:41 pm: what type of techniques do you use while clay bar-ing ?
[lsbit] 9:41 pm: i wonder if clay would help my ls it feels more like it needs to be wet sanded it feels so bad. It looks OK but feels rough
[StraDog] 9:42 pm: how do you apply it... I have used it before... just wondering
[Nysbadmk8] 9:42 pm: when you clay bi-weekly its not to bad, its also like toweling off your car
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[GrayGhost1] 9:42 pm: Don, the Masters Auto Expo will be July 22-24. Here's a link to the show info: http://www.masterstv.com/autoexpo/
[lsbit] 9:42 pm: Thanks Gray
[GrayGhost1] 9:42 pm: I entered it last year and it was a fun time
[GrayGhost1] 9:43 pm: i'll probably do it this year too
[GrayGhost1] 9:43 pm: i'd love to have a big LvC presence there.
[lsbit] 9:43 pm: was that the show with the small import section at the top and all the other cars in the big lot...???
[GrayGhost1] 9:43 pm: yes
[Nysbadmk8] 9:43 pm: you wet the surface with asoapy water mix, i perfer 10 drops of dawn to 32oz of water, you spray the surface of your car
with the dawn solution, make sure the surface of the car is cool, you then kinda flatten the clay bar and with light to medium pressure rub the clay
bar back and forth untill you no longer feel the clay bar grabbing the paint. Keep the surface well lubed
[GrayGhost1] 9:44 pm: well...gotta run. 5:30 am comes early.
[lsbit] 9:44 pm: nys:just a lot of work to clean then repolish and paint...with a 2 yr old I barely have time to wash now..
[lsbit] 9:44 pm: take care!
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[lsbit] 9:45 pm: do you wash your car with dawn first?
[Nysbadmk8] 9:46 pm: I wash the car with meguiars Hyper wash
[Nysbadmk8] 9:46 pm: sim. to dawn
[StraDog] 9:47 pm: I was using the Mother's clay bar system
[StraDog] 9:48 pm: and I used the provided detail spray then clayed
[StraDog] 9:48 pm: should I just use dawn ?
[lsbit] 9:49 pm: I gotta run guys...take care
[Nysbadmk8] 9:49 pm: i do for cost reasons
[Nysbadmk8] 9:49 pm: plus the bar slides better
[StraDog] 9:49 pm: ok lsbit.. later brother
[Nysbadmk8] 9:49 pm: later
[StraDog] 9:50 pm: i'm going to this huge GMvsFord meet this weekend in Chicago. so I wanted the Mark looking decent
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[StraDog] 9:50 pm: but man the old paint needs some wet sanding
[Nysbadmk8] 9:51 pm: got ya
[StraDog] 9:51 pm: aight thanks a lot for your help
[StraDog] 9:51 pm: talk to ya later
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