ls axles vs mark viii axles

Lets keep mark stuff on the mark and ls stuff on the ls.
 
I was doing some googling last night. Seems like this is a pretty common thing to do esp with older cars. They don't fill the other holes in unless they have to though. Depending on the pattern they are going to use they just drill the new holes between the original pattern. My first thought was that it would extremely weaken our hubs. But I couldn't find anyone who had problems after doing it.
So as long as a 5x4.5/5x114.3 will fit on our hubs I THINK it would work....but that's just me thinking again lol
 
2002_lincolnLS said:
if you do that just be super careful and make sure the holes are dead on, if they get off center your wheels whont fit and will be off balance. You also don't wanna have to weld and drill more than once if at all, it's just kind of an iffy project.

I would be all about finding different hubs that would fit our cars with some modification. But hey like i said someone has to go for it, I'm also not the greatest welder so just my two cents..
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I'm far from the best but I trust my skills enough to do the welding. However, the drilling part I would be a little nervous about for the reasons you mentioned. But if a different pattern will fit in the midst of the existing pattern then a shop should be able to do the drilling and I could fill the old holes in later if I felt unsafe with having ten holes in my hub
 
2000lsv8 said:
I'm far from the best but I trust my skills enough to do the welding. However, the drilling part I would be a little nervous about for the reasons you mentioned. But if a different pattern will fit in the midst of the existing pattern then a shop should be able to do the drilling and I could fill the old holes in later if I felt unsafe with having ten holes in my hub
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If you have find a shop that re-drills wheels you won't have any problem. They'll have a jig set up so the holes will be dead on center. and as long as the holes are a decent distance away from the edge of the hub you wont have any problems.

Deffinatly an idea that would be cool when done, it's to bad we can't get a maufacturer to make us hubs with a more common bolt pattern. They do it for other cars....
 
the machine shop says it's definitely something they can do as long as the 5x114.3 pattern will fit on our hub. they are only open monday to friday until 330 so I don't know when I'll have a chance to get over there. but I will keep you guys updated when I do you get over there.
 
They will have fun drilling the new pattern into the weld. The weld will be dam hard. Also the weld will need to be faced down flat on front and back. I skipped messing with my mk8 hubs and just made fixture to notch the 2003 mustang 5 star GT rims to fit. I'm a machinist and done redrills alot and weld stinks to drill. (say carbide)
 
Another way to change pattern is find lugs where the knurled part is .250 dia bigger then what you have. Then have shop index hub and endmill in the new .250 bigger hole on the new 4.50 B.C.. This will only be a scollop cut and remove material only from the outer edge. Install new lugs,done. PS don't forget to notch or drill all 4 rotors.
 
alright. thanks for the help!
they wouldn't be the drilling through my welds. they would be drilling the new holes in between the original holes. but I'll also talk to them about your idea and see which one would be easier for them.
and again thanks for the advice!
 
2000lsv8 said:
alright. thanks for the help!
they wouldn't be the drilling through my welds. they would be drilling the new holes in between the original holes. but I'll also talk to them about your idea and see which one would be easier for them.
and again thanks for the advice!
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Ok just some info. If LS hubs are anything like Mk8 hubs you CANNOT drill new pattern in them. Why you ask. Well the hubs are twice as thick right where the stud hole is drilled,the flange thins out between holes. Like I said I check out doing this on my MK8 and found certain things that lead me to not modify hubs and do rims insteed. I would not recommend holding a wheel stud in the thinned area. Ford made hub that thick for a reason. If LS hubs are thick all the way then will not be a problem just popping in new stud holes.
 
All the info in my first 2 posts where because of the thinning of the hub flange between studs. Thats why I commented the way I did. Look at this Ebay ad at back of hub to see what i mean http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/WHEE...r_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5642e1a459
Just checked and looks like the LS flanges are 1 thinkness thats good for you. Only thing is the front hub unit kinda big with the mount flange and abs black plastic backing. This will make hub harder for them to hold. just a FYI.
 
Right on the Mark said:
All the info in my first 2 posts where because of the thinning of the hub flange between studs. Thats why I commented the way I did. Look at this Ebay ad at back of hub to see what i mean http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/WHEE...r_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5642e1a459
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yeah that same thought occured to me this afternoon. one of the guys at work was replacing a hub on a straight truck and i noticed it was designed just like the mark8. So i checked and and as far i can tell from pictures the LS hubs are the same thickness all the way around. I don't have my LS here at home or i would check my hubs to be sure.
 
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