Rotors & pads

I personally wouldn't bother buying them. If you can, stick with OEM, if not Reybestos is a pretty good brand. All those parts are going on a Lincoln not a Hundai.
 
I personally wouldn't bother buying them. If you can, stick with OEM, if not Reybestos is a pretty good brand. All those parts are going on a Lincoln not a Hundai.

I'm pretty sure that's what I'll do. A guy at work is into racing and swears up and down on using oem parts for brakes unless they are known or proven to be absolutely junk. probably stick with factory rotors and ceramic pads for now.
 
I'm pretty sure that's what I'll do. A guy at work is into racing and swears up and down on using oem parts for brakes unless they are known or proven to be absolutely junk. probably stick with factory rotors and ceramic pads for now.

There you go. I absolutly agree with him. As I stated, if you can afford it, go with OEM.

I bought a pair of rear Wagner rotors for my LS about 3 months ago and they already have what seems like tiny cracks running vertically/horizantlly on the surface of the rotors. They were $40 something dollars each. I was gonna get Wagners for the fronts too, but luckly I didn't. Instead I just had them cut.

When I am ready to change out the fronts, the rears will get replaced at the same time, with OEM.
 
Yea ive heard drilled rotors can crack if not properly made.

Havent heard anything bad about slotted ones, but im sure they dont work any better. I just want some slotted ones with the centers colored black. I have all oems on right now but they get rust really fast i hate it.

These are freakin nice but too rich for my blood:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EBC-...its=Make:Lincoln|Model:LS&hash=item5195a42b77
 
I hear you. I have got the same issue with the rusty rotors. Its not attractive to have rust showing through the wheels on a beautiful black LS. What can you do...

Those EBC brakes look good. That's not too bad of a deal though compared to Ford rotors.
The OEM ones by me (for the LS) go for over $120 and that's just for one rotor.
 
Yea ive heard drilled rotors can crack if not properly made.

Havent heard anything bad about slotted ones, but im sure they dont work any better. I just want some slotted ones with the centers colored black. I have all oems on right now but they get rust really fast i hate it.

These are freakin nice but too rich for my blood:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/EBC-...its=Make:Lincoln|Model:LS&hash=item5195a42b77

thats what i put on the front with red stuff pads.... generally awesome stopping power and consistency. i would highly recommend them if the money is available.
 
i did notice mine are not exactly the same as in the pic, i have the slotted and dimpled rotors. i piced them up at my friendly neighborhood summit racing, man i love that part of ne ohio

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Bought the rotors from a1 knoncepts in CA off ebay and was scared at the price. They were cheaper for all 4 with shiping then one OEM or two from local aftermarket dealers. I have had them on for over two years now and they are still in perfect shape. Not sure how they do it. If I had rims that were more open I would go with OEM. They do show a little rust on non braking areas.
 
i did notice mine are not exactly the same as in the pic, i have the slotted and dimpled rotors. i piced them up at my friendly neighborhood summit racing, man i love that part of ne ohio

wow those are beautiful.....so how visible is the rust on them now.

i like these more than the rotor pros ones.....
 
there is no rust at all, i love them the only rust i get is on the stopping surface if it rains over night or at work but thats to be expected from any rotor. no rust int the dimples or slots i love thm
 
wow those are beautiful.....so how visible is the rust on them now.

i like these more than the rotor pros ones.....

i get a lot off people look at em like whoa, you have drilled and slotted rotors? i think there pretty normal but apparently not. Mercedes AMG's come standard with em
 
The technology of slots and holes are viable for track and autocross environments, but much less so for street. Holes gain you less mass for quicker acceleration; holes and slots gain a little if you have more of an organic based friction material that will out gas at elevated temperatures. Both show a little improvement in reducing wet fade at low hydraulic pressures, but that advantage goes away as the pressure increases and the pads are able to squeeze and scrape water off the rotors surface. Holes, even those chamfered, have a propensity to develop cracks if the rotors temperature gets elevated in spirited driving.

The friction material compounds sold OE and mostly aftermarket for the DEW 98 platform are not organic, while some of the rear pads are more towards a low-metallic compound, such as the OE rear pads from Ferodo/Federal-Mogul. So there is little outgassing or the need for either slots or holes unless you are changing to a cheap compound or see extreme temperatures in autocross.

The iron used in the rotors is pretty standardized. The cost basis mostly comes in from the quality control of the casting and machining. Despite what many think of OE parts, you will not find a better QC or machined rotor then the OE rotors. The Motorcraft (aftermarket) rotors come close to OE standards, which are supplied to Ford by Federal-Mogul (Wagner). The Motorcraft standards are tighter then those sold as Wagner, although both are made at the same location in China. The OE rotors were a product out of TRW Brazil.
 
The technology of slots and holes are viable for track and autocross environments, but much less so for street. Holes gain you less mass for quicker acceleration; holes and slots gain a little if you have more of an organic based friction material that will out gas at elevated temperatures. Both show a little improvement in reducing wet fade at low hydraulic pressures, but that advantage goes away as the pressure increases and the pads are able to squeeze and scrape water off the rotors surface. Holes, even those chamfered, have a propensity to develop cracks if the rotors temperature gets elevated in spirited driving.

The friction material compounds sold OE and mostly aftermarket for the DEW 98 platform are not organic, while some of the rear pads are more towards a low-metallic compound, such as the OE rear pads from Ferodo/Federal-Mogul. So there is little outgassing or the need for either slots or holes unless you are changing to a cheap compound or see extreme temperatures in autocross.

The iron used in the rotors is pretty standardized. The cost basis mostly comes in from the quality control of the casting and machining. Despite what many think of OE parts, you will not find a better QC or machined rotor then the OE rotors. The Motorcraft (aftermarket) rotors come close to OE standards, which are supplied to Ford by Federal-Mogul (Wagner). The Motorcraft standards are tighter then those sold as Wagner, although both are made at the same location in China. The OE rotors were a product out of TRW Brazil.

This is pretty much what my co-worker was telling me. The de-gassing shouldn't be a problem with ceramic pads and little with the semi-metalics. The drilled and slotted rotors do look really cool though! If was my SC, I might go with them but I don't think I'm gonna drive this car as hard as I do the SC.
 
I just replaced all four rotors on my V8 02 with Wagners and they were stamped made in Brazil.
 
Then they are OE reboxed as Wagners. When production is down, they will purchase pallets from the OE supplier and rebox in US. I just got four rotors for my own vehicle, 2 were Brazil, two were China. The OE rotors should have a blue rust preventative coating on them.

The other thing that is done if the market is not high enough to purchase the tooling for a specific rotor application, they will just rebox OE stock.
 

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