pats security

[dwenz]

OK guys while working on replacing some burned out dash bulbs the battery was drained and car bairly cranked when i went to start but cranked. I preceded to put on charger and waited a few min. Went to start it will not crank. Red light on dash blinks rapidly when I turn key to crank but no crank.leave key in run position light blinks rapidly for about 3 min then goes into a blink twice mode several times then goes out. Help

 

[joegr]

... light blinks rapidly for about 3 min then goes into a blink twice mode several times then goes out. Help

When it stops rapidly blinking, it starts flashing out a two digit code a few times. Count and write down that code and post it here. It will give some clues as to where to look for the problem. (Example: 16 would mean to check the PCM fuse and relay.)


Be warned that whatever else happens, you are probably going to have to replace your battery too.

 

[LS4me]

OK guys while working on replacing some burned out dash bulbs the battery was drained and car barely cranked when i went to start but cranked. I preceded to put on charger and waited a few min. Went to start it will not crank. Red light on dash blinks rapidly when I turn key to crank but no crank.leave key in run position light blinks rapidly for about 3 min then goes into a blink twice mode several times then goes out. Help

If you killed the battery a few minutes on the charger isn't near enough. You'll need at least 12 hours! Since the battery is dead I would just replace it and see if the car starts. My bet is it will.

 

[dwenz]

it appears to be 22 it displays a blink a paus a blink then a longer pause. It does this 10 x then goes off. Also when I disconnect battery leave off for a bit reconect then try to start alarm sets off (horn) still won't crank.

 

[LS4me]

it appears to be 22 it displays a blink a paus a blink then a longer pause. It does this 10 x then goes off. Also when I disconnect battery leave off for a bit reconect then try to start alarm sets off (horn) still won't crank.

I don't know if that's the PATS code but you most certainly have a dead battery.......

 

[dwenz]

car is connected to a jump box . Why would red light flash and alarm go off

 

[joegr]

22 is a communications fault. Do you have a remote start installed or an aftermarket alarm? Is it possible that you damaged the cluster or any or the wiring back there?

It is unlikely that your jump box can supply enough current to start the car. Even a really good car battery usually can't do this using jumper cables. (Jump starting works when the car's battery is partly drained or weak. It does not work if the battery is dead or has bad cells.)

As was said, you should have to leave the key and radio on for hours to get to where the battery couldn't start it. Your battery has probably had it. If you are in doubt, take it out and take it to an auto store to be load tested. If it fails, I'd replace it before doing anything else.

Even with a new battery, you will probably find that you still have a problem to resolve. If you don't have the right tools, you'll have to tow it to a dealer. (Do check all the fuses first.)

 

[dwenz]

well I found it code 22 must be a communication code error. The bat is fine even with load test. Like I was saying interior lights were on and headlights for cple hrs.the problem was a 5 amp fuse in the right kick panel. Not sure why it blew or sets off PATS and alarm after you undo the battery for a bit. But anyhow that got it running no flashing lights no codes. ...Different question air bag dash light where is it in cluster is it a srs, or a pic of a bag? Should it cycle like the other warning lights? 2000 ls

 

[1LoudLS]

...Different question air bag dash light where is it in cluster is it a srs, or a pic of a bag? Should it cycle like the other warning lights? 2000 ls

it is an icon of a person wearing their seat belt with an airbag in their face, there is a picture of it in your owners manual on page 8 and 11 (if you dont have your manual, there is a PDF of one in the tech articles at the top of the page)

yes, the light should come on every time the key is turned on for at least a few seconds just like every other warning light in every other car...

 

[dwenz]

mines a 2000 and the cruise light indicator doesn't cycle PDF is a2001

 

[1LoudLS]

sorry I couldn't be more helpful to you.


also corrected the statement, thank you.

 

[joegr]

mines a 2000 and the cruise light indicator doesn't cycle PDF is a2001

2001 manual should be close enough.
The cruse light does not prove out at key on. It only comes on when the cruise control is engaged (controlling the speed).

 

[Bahama Dreamz]

what does it mean if your pats light blinks what seems to be the number 15 ( one blink pause then 5 blinks). i have been searching and is hard to find the code sheet or whatever

 

[joegr]

what does it mean if your pats light blinks what seems to be the number 15 ( one blink pause then 5 blinks). i have been searching and is hard to find the code sheet or whatever

I think that means the key being used isn't programmed in.

 

[Bahama Dreamz]

I think that means the key being used isn't programmed in.

Thanks so much man i just wanted to make sure before i moved on with a solution. hoping may be it was something else but i am sure my key is the issue now.