Aftermarket HID Install Question

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Quick question about installing the hid bulb to the housing. I have a back plate that is going to hold the bulb but i'm planning on using filler foam between to have a seal (so i won't have to use silicon) and better fitting for the bulb. Any experience on here about knowing how hot it gets on the outside part of the housing? I don't think it's going to come anywhere near to melting but I thought I'd ask around here beforehand. BTW housing is gen 1 lsc.
 
HIDs burn a lot cooler than Halogens
I run dual HID bulbs in my LSC housings
 
So I won't have to worry about the foam melting? I won't think it gets hot enough on the back side of the bulb to melt thefoam but I wanted to ask because I may have been looking over the obvious that you guys may have caught. Thanks hopefully it'll all be good. I have actually been running oem hids with the lsc housing and not halogens before so I haven't tried the foam before.
 
93mkviii said:
So I won't have to worry about the foam melting? I won't think it gets hot enough on the back side of the bulb to melt thefoam but I wanted to ask because I may have been looking over the obvious that you guys may have caught. Thanks hopefully it'll all be good. I have actually been running oem hids with the lsc housing and not halogens before so I haven't tried the foam before.
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I don't know why you don't want to use silicone, it will seal it better to keep moisture out, once the bulb is in there there's no need to use foam to keep it from moving it will stay in place just fine if you're using DLFs adapters. Heres a pic of what I did, I just put a bead of black silicone around the edge of the adapter and used a generous amount in he center hole around the wires to seal it off.

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The DLF adapters are the best thing to use for holding the HID lights to the housing but the DDM kit I have has one solid rubber piece that holds all of the wires together and I can't remove the power wire (which won't fit through the hole of the adapter) and I would have to enlarge the hole of the adapter so I fabricated my own holder. If I cut or modify the wire I don't believe they would honor the warranty. So I wanting to use foam ring which then i won't have to worry about redoing silicon if i remove the bulb. Anyway, I'm gonna test how hot it gets by keeping them on for some time. Thanks for your help guys. BTW I will also be testing to see how hot the 55w bulb and ballast get vs the 35w. I wish I had a power meter to test how much power each was taking precisely and a temperature camera but I don't so I will do my best.
 
keVIIIn said:
I don't know why you don't want to use silicone, it will seal it better to keep moisture out, once the bulb is in there there's no need to use foam to keep it from moving it will stay in place just fine if you're using DLFs adapters. Heres a pic of what I did, I just put a bead of black silicone around the edge of the adapter and used a generous amount in he center hole around the wires to seal it off.

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where can you get these adapters currently ?
 
When I do a HID install, I separate the bulb from the power wire as shown in the first two pics.

My Gen 1 install thread is here:

http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=83805

You should use a relay harness to install an aftermarket HID kit in a Gen 1.

A 9006 aftermarket HID bulb fits in the Gen 1 HID housings tightly enough that additional sealing shouldn't be needed.

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DLF said:
You should use a relay harness to install an aftermarket HID kit in a Gen 1.
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Unless your car came with factory HID's, in which case you can wire the aftermarket HID ballasts to the connections that fed the OEM ballasts. ;)
 
DLF I know you separated the rubber piece out. Did you have to cut it out? I ask because I will have to cut it out since it is all one piece. I am still planning on exchanging them and was doing a test/trial for which color bulb and ballast i wanted so i wanted to hold off on modify them since they may give me problems. About using the relay harness. I know GMAN did the conversion on my car originally but as far as i can see the wiring to the original ballast was coming from a larger ( I don't know what to call it but it is the in-cased plastic cylinder with a slit in it) and I don't think the lights were spliced into the original wiring he may have swapped it. But honestly I'm not sure. The originals have been on there for couple of years and they still work great but I wanted to change them before they went bad cause I know they are rare.
 
I cut the rubber surround and then cut out a thin slice to use and act as a seal and to hold the bulb tighter. I had to do it or the bulb wouldn't have been held tightly in place. That's just my experience. The bulb went in first and then I added the thin slice of the round rubber and then the adapter and it all tightened up very snug. Without the rubber being in between the bulb and adapter, the bulbs would have been loose. Wasn't a big deal though. they're in now and sealed fine and held in tight. No worries of vibrations with the bulbs.

One thin slice off of this is what I used in between the bulb and adapter. Worked perfect for me.

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93mkviii said:
DLF I know you separated the rubber piece out. Did you have to cut it out? I ask because I will have to cut it out since it is all one piece. I am still planning on exchanging them and was doing a test/trial for which color bulb and ballast i wanted so i wanted to hold off on modify them since they may give me problems. About using the relay harness. I know GMAN did the conversion on my car originally but as far as i can see the wiring to the original ballast was coming from a larger ( I don't know what to call it but it is the in-cased plastic cylinder with a slit in it) and I don't think the lights were spliced into the original wiring he may have swapped it. But honestly I'm not sure. The originals have been on there for couple of years and they still work great but I wanted to change them before they went bad cause I know they are rare.
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If your car didn't originally come with HID's, then you should use a relay harness. I can't comment on what GMAN might have done, as I can't see it.

On a Gen 1, I cut the rubber washer completely off with a sharp box knife.

chris2523 said:
huh. that was not so in my case.
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Did you use 9006 or 9005 bulbs? The diameter of the o-ring on the 9006 bulb fit quite tight in the Gen 1 install that I linked above. 9005 bulbs are slightly smaller in diameter, which is why I recommend using the 9006's.

NoLimit95 said:
I cut the rubber surround and then cut out a thin slice to use and act as a seal and to hold the bulb tighter. I had to do it or the bulb wouldn't have been held tightly in place. That's just my experience. The bulb went in first and then I added the thin slice of the round rubber and then the adapter and it all tightened up very snug. Without the rubber being in between the bulb and adapter, the bulbs would have been loose. Wasn't a big deal though. they're in now and sealed fine and held in tight. No worries of vibrations with the bulbs.

One thin slice off of this is what I used in between the bulb and adapter. Worked perfect for me.
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With my adapters? I've never heard of anyone needing to shim them. The raised center of my adapters is specifically designed to take up the necessary slack. I've installed quite a few sets and never had an issue like you described. :cool:

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NoLimit95 said:
I cut the rubber surround and then cut out a thin slice to use and act as a seal and to hold the bulb tighter. I had to do it or the bulb wouldn't have been held tightly in place. That's just my experience. The bulb went in first and then I added the thin slice of the round rubber and then the adapter and it all tightened up very snug. Without the rubber being in between the bulb and adapter, the bulbs would have been loose. Wasn't a big deal though. they're in now and sealed fine and held in tight. No worries of vibrations with the bulbs.

One thin slice off of this is what I used in between the bulb and adapter. Worked perfect for me.

HPIM1030_zpsb61617ab.jpg
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DLF this is the same problem i ran into that you wanted me to send pics about, but its kind of hard to do that:p If I put the bulb in with out the rubber shim i can wiggle the bulb around.
 
DLF said:
With my adapters? I've never heard of anyone needing to shim them. The raised center of my adapters is specifically designed to take up the necessary slack. I've installed quite a few sets and never had an issue like you described. :cool:
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Doug, I don't know why my case was like it was but, it was. Just the adapters alone did not have the bulb held tight but I was glad really because I would rather have the rubber seal in between the adapter and bulb to make sure there is no moisture that can get in. The rubber fit into the hole perfectly and the adapter tightened right up against the rubber just right. It could have been the brand of 9006 bulbs I got, not really sure. Anyway, no complaints here. I'd rather have it like I do than to be using silicone... :)
 
Epwillis said:
DLF this is the same problem i ran into that you wanted me to send pics about, but its kind of hard to do that:p If I put the bulb in with out the rubber shim i can wiggle the bulb around.
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NoLimit95 said:
Doug, I don't know why my case was like it was but, it was. Just the adapters alone did not have the bulb held tight but I was glad really because I would rather have the rubber seal in between the adapter and bulb to make sure there is no moisture that can get in. The rubber fit into the hole perfectly and the adapter tightened right up against the rubber just right. It could have been the brand of 9006 bulbs I got, not really sure. Anyway, no complaints here. I'd rather have it like I do than to be using silicone... :)
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From where did you two purchase your HID bulbs/kits?
 
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