Replacing 2000 Lincoln LS PVC Valve Hose

[asemarim]

So I've read this thread and also examined the spreadsheet which goes through this procedure on a similar jaguar.

http://www.lincolnvscadillac.com/showthread.php?t=72505

So I went into the shop today and was given a P0171 and P0174 saying Bank 1 and Bank 2 are lean, due to the PVC Valve hose/tube having a hole and letting air through.

I have 0 car maintenance experience, but am fairly intelligent otherwise.

Given the work that is required to remove the air intake piece, I have the following questions I would appreciate insight on.

1) Should I attempt to perform this fix on my own, replacing the tube - is it that difficult?

2) Is there ANYWAY to repair the tube, rather than replacing it, which could be done without removing the air intake - even if its a temporary fix?

3) What would u estimate is a fair price for a shop to buy the part and perform the labor to replace it.

4) How long is it safe to drive w/o having this replaced - as in time I have to decide on a solution.

 

[mikeyswood]

6 or 8?

 

[loomis22]

I just did this about a month ago. I would assume, like mine, that it is the elbow that goes from the pcv valve to the rest of the tubing. Mine was collapsed and had a huge hole in the middle. If you know it's just the elbow, get Part # YL8Z-6A614-AA from Ford (it will tell you that it is for a truck but it works instead of buying the whole system) and just replace the elbow. That is what I did and it was easy. Runs much better now.

 

[asemarim]

re:

Its the 6 cylinder engine. The mechanic pulled on the thing a bit to show me the air coming out when the car was running, but i didnt notice if it was the elbow, etc.

Can you give me a bit of insight on what to glance at and I'll look to see if its the elbow area that makes it easier to replace.

 

[joegr]

6 or 8?

There's no PCV valve on the V8.

 

[loomis22]

Its the 6 cylinder engine. The mechanic pulled on the thing a bit to show me the air coming out when the car was running, but i didnt notice if it was the elbow, etc.

Can you give me a bit of insight on what to glance at and I'll look to see if its the elbow area that makes it easier to replace.

Well to see it you would have to take the engine half apart anyway lol. But basically, PCV valve -> rubber elbow, it will be pretty easy to notice if it does have a hole, mine was almost melted in half.

 

[rugger33]

I have an '02 and have done it. It took me about 3 1/2 hours including valve cover gaskets. It is involved but doable. I would be a little concerned with the 0 experience as things can happen when you do this that take you off the manual such as bolts breaking, etc...with regards to your specific ?'s...

2) Is there ANYWAY to repair the tube, rather than replacing it, which could be done without removing the air intake - even if its a temporary fix? I don't think so; I don't think you can even see it without taking the intake off..

3) What would u estimate is a fair price for a shop to buy the part and perform the labor to replace it. I would bet it's easily $500 or more depending on where you go.

4) How long is it safe to drive w/o having this replaced - as in time I have to decide on a solution. Mine just rode like crap for about a year as I cultivated my "set" and courage to do it. It's obviously probably not good for the car but I did run it for a year like that and that was about 2.5 years ago..

If you decide to do it, seriously consider changing the valve cover gaskets. Max can get you all the parts you need for this job easily. Good luck...

 

[tireman]

ok

follow the pcv vac hose from throttle body to rear of engine, look at the rear sleeve, sometimes these split and you may just need a new vacuum line. otherwise you need a pcv elbow. replace the valve cover gaskets, spark plugs while you're in there. It took some time to do the job, but not difficult, don't disconnect anything that you can just move aside when working. Oh, also replace the upper and lower manifold gaskets, very easy. I worked friday night to tear it all down and keep bolts in order. Sat morning put it all back together. All done for the next 100,000 miles.

 

[Mechanicboy]

I see you're in socal, why can't anyone be in norcal!

Anyway, you shouldn't drive long like that and there's not a good was to repair the hose it should be replaced.