Palin tells kids the vice president 'runs' Senate

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McCain ‘amazed’ by Palin treatment.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14820.html

Several leading conservatives, including columnists Kathleen Parker of National Review and David Brooks of the New York Times, have questioned McCain’s judgment in selecting Palin.

Parker called Palin “out of her league” in a September column urging the Alaska governor to drop out of the race. Brooks, meanwhile, called Palin “a fatal cancer to the Republican Party” during a forum hosted by The Atlantic magazine earlier this month.

McCain dismissed their criticisms and credited Palin for energizing the conservative base in a year in which the GOP faces “a stiff headwind.”
McCain still can't see the mistake he made.

Palin Problem
She’s out of her league.

By Kathleen Parker

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=#more

When Couric pointed to polls showing that the financial crisis had boosted Obama’s numbers, Palin blustered wordily: “I’m not looking at poll numbers. What I think Americans at the end of the day are going to be able to go back and look at track records and see who’s more apt to be talking about solutions and wishing for and hoping for solutions for some opportunity to change, and who’s actually done it?”

If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.

RNC shells out $150K for Palin fashion
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html

Politico asked the McCain campaign for comment on Monday, explicitly noting the $150,000 in expenses for department store shopping and makeup consultation that were incurred immediately after Palin’s announcement. Pre-September reports do not include similar costs.
Spokeswoman Maria Comella declined to answer specific questions about the expenditures, including whether it was necessary to spend that much and whether it amounted to one early investment in Palin or if shopping for the vice presidential nominee was ongoing.

“The campaign does not comment on strategic decisions regarding how financial resources available to the campaign are spent," she said.
But hours after the story was posted on Politico's website and legal issues were raised, the campaign issued a new statement.

"With all of the important issues facing the country right now, it’s remarkable that we’re spending time talking about pantsuits and blouses," said spokeswoman Tracey Schmitt. "It was always the intent that the clothing go to a charitable purpose after the campaign."

On and on it goes.
 
The VP is the President of the Senate, according to the constitution.

But that is something to be mocked and ignored to, isn't it? :rolleyes:
 
She is an idiot wrapped in a decent bag and nothing more.

How do you even get to become a Governer when you do not know what in the hell a VP even does??

Man this Country is so f'ed up its beyond comprehension.
 
You people need to read the Constitution.

Ignorance is the most expensive commodity we pay for in this country.
 
How do you even get to become a Governer when you do not know what in the hell a VP even does??

Please tell us what the V.P. does so we may all be informed?


From the Libs favorite resource: Wiki....


President of the Senate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"The President of the Senate is a title often given to the presiding officer, speaker, or chairman of a senate."

And what is a synonym for RUNS: oh, ya... presides.
And a synonym for PRESIDES: oh, ya...runs.

Considering she was talking to 3rd graders, one would think you guys would be able to understand. Oh well.
 
Palin, if elected as VP wouldn't "in charge of the United States Senate" as she tells those adoring, and now misguided children.

Although Cheney really tried to be more too, it just isn't the case. The VP actually very rarely even sits in the Senate.

As President of the senate the only thing the Vice President is called in on is to vote in the case of a tie... The VP isn't in charge of anything in the US Senate

Article One, Section 3
The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.

This is how it really is -

House Leadership

From the US Senate site...


The Speaker of the House is not only the presiding officer of the House, but also serves as leader of the majority party conference. Next in the chain of command of the majority party are the majority leader and the majority whip. The minority leadership in the House consists of the House minority leader and the minority whip.

Note - the VP isn't even mentioned in 'chain of command'
 
Shes a rock roped and tied to McCains ankle.
He tied her on himself.

Open your eyes.
 
The latest NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll

The number one concern about McCain was Palin's perceived lack of qualifications.

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When you open YOUR eyes and admit that OBAMA is even more pathetic, then we'll talk about who is more qualified.

I have never supported Obama and you know that.
But McCains choice for VP I fear is going to cost him the White house.

You see from were I sit it won't matter who I vote for.
This godforsaken state has been blue since 1972.
It will be a Obama state..... my vote dosen't mean squat.

The only reason for me to vote is to keep this clown out of office.

YUK
 
The latest NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll

The number one concern about McCain was Palin's perceived lack of qualifications.

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Isn't it funny that nobody actually votes for those issues. Opinion polls are generally worthless.

But, now that we're on the subject, can we infer from the poll you cited that 66% of people believe that Palin is qualified?
 
But, now that we're on the subject, can we infer from the poll you cited that 66% of people believe that Palin is qualified?
Nope, the other 66% thought that the fact that she isn't qualified was only their number 2 concern ;)
 
Nope, the other 66% thought that the fact that she isn't qualified was only their number 2 concern ;)
Not according to your poll. It's "Continue Bush Policies."

By the way, where's the poll with concerns about Obama?

Oh, never mind. I already know. It doesn't exist.
 
Oh, and Joey:
I hope one of my roles as vice president will be as the person actually implementing Barack Obama’s policy. You gotta get the Congress to go along with it,” he said. “And it’s presumptuous to say, but I know it pretty well. And I think I am fairly respected on both sides of the aisle.

- Joe Biden

At least Palin knows how many letters are in "J-O-B-S."
*owned*
 
And here's a post from Ace of Spades' blog on the subject:

Palin: Correct about the VP's Role in the Senate
—Jack M.
Lots of different blogs are posting stories about the political left's newest attack on Sarah Palin, so I won't link any in particular. Suffice it to say that the gist of all the stories is that the left is outraged that Palin told a 3rd Grader that the role of the Vice President is to be "in charge of the senate".

Here's the CNN story that started the left's latest tantrum: "Palin takes heat for saying VP in charge of the Senate."

This manufactured outrage is just an extension of the "Palin doesn't know what a VP does" meme that started a few weeks ago when an old CNBC interview ran with a clip of the Governor demurring on her prospects of being selected as McCain's running mate because (paraphrasing) "someone would have to tell me what VP's do" (the context making it obvious to most fair observers that she was trying to joke about the VP's relative lack of portfolio vs. that of a Governor).

But Palin is actually right: The Constitution empowers the Vice President to Preside over the Senate. The majority party cannot prevent him/her from doing so.

And this matters. Why?

Because whoever sits in that chair has actual parliamentary power in a couple of areas.

For example, say you are watching C-Span and you hear two Senators shouting at the chair for the privilege of speaking, or to ask a procedural question. The only person who is recognized to legitimately take the floor, is, by Senate rules, the person who the Presiding Officer hears and acknowledges first.

If Palin were in that chair, she could make the call as to who is recognized to speak or to ask a parliamentary question. By using this ability, Palin could, in fact, structure the order of debate or to render a procedural inquiry moot.

In fact, procedurally the President of the Senate (or their designee) makes all the calls. The President of the Senate can be overturned by a vote of the Senate, but, absent that vote, the ruling of the Chair governs the action on the floor. It is not far fetched to say that on a controversial bill, a President of the Senate who wished to delay proceedings could in fact force repeated votes to overturn his or her rulings.

Let me share a real world example from my memory with you:

In 2000, when Bill Clinton was President, he appointed a really liberal judge named Richard Paez to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. The vote was expected to be close (it ended up being 59-39) and Al Gore showed up to preside over the Senate.

Why? Because Al Gore was campaigning for President, and Paez was a vote in which Hispanic activist groups (La Raza in particular) had been particularly interested in happening. The GOP had bottled Paez' nomination up under Orrin Hatch's judiciary chairmanship for over 4 years due to Paez' record of activism. I think, but am not certain, that Paez was particularly politically important because he was a "first": i.e. the "first Hispanic" to be appointed to the 9th Circuit.

So Gore shows up, But there was a hitch. Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions had discovered that Richard Paez just so happened to be the same judge who was presiding over some of the Gore-illegal campaign contributions cases in California. To many, including Sessions who made the case on the Senate floor, it appeared that Paez was being rewarded with a judicial nomination for his "good work" in protecting Gore. Paez only received his nomination to the 9th Circuit, after the Gore cases had been sent to him. (An interesting fact: Paez wasn't assigned the Gore cases randomly as is the custom; he was specifically tasked with them). It looked like a clear conflict of interest (would a judge interested in advancing his career undermine the man who had appointed him and the man who could, if he were elected, consider advancing him to the Supreme Court?).

Anyway, I can remember watching Sessions do a ballsy thing. With Gore sitting in the chair, Sessions pointed out that their was a Standing Rule of the Senate that prevented the Presiding officer from voting on any issue in which they have a personal or financial conflict of interest. Sessions essentially tried to disqualify Gore from presiding over the vote by arguing that Gore shouldn't be voting on promoting a Judge who was handling a criminal case implicating Gore.

Gore was forced to rule in favor of himself in order to resolve the dispute.
 
Foss, sorry the US Senate Government site (and I bet they really know what they are talking about, in fact, they could be considered the 'expert' on the subject) says differently...

The VP is in reality a gavel master if they show up, and then breaks ties. And that is all. Ask Frank....

Not according to your poll. It's "Continue Bush Policies."

According to the article they asked what the number one concern was....

34 percent of the people polled said Palin's lack of qualification was their number one concern
23 percent of the people polled said that McCain would continue Bush's policies was their number one concern
20 percent of the people polled said that McCain would benefit corporations and wealthy...
etc....

But you don't see the next poll... What is their number two concern?
66 percent of the people polled said Palin's lack of qualification was their number TWO concern

Actually just supposition on my part...

The rest mentioned something about Todd's snowmobile slush fund ;)
 
Sorry, fox, wrong again. I suppose you would have had her explain the nuanced situations surrounding the VP's role to third graders? Sheesh.

Moreover, nothing you've said obviates what the Constitution says.

That's all.

From the Senate’s website:

Vice-Presidential Duties
The framers also devoted scant attention to the vice president’s duties, providing only that he “shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be evenly divided” (Article I, section 3). In practice, the number of times vice presidents have exercised this right has varied greatly.
… [snip] ….

The vice president’s other constitutionally mandated duty was to receive from the states the tally of electoral ballots cast for president and vice president… [snip]

Several framers ultimately refused to sign the Constitution, in part because they viewed the vice president’s legislative role as a violation of the separation of powers doctrine. [snip] Others thought the office unnecessary but agreed with Connecticut delegate Roger Sherman that “if the vice-President were not to be President of the Senate, he would be without employment, and some member [of the Senate, acting as presiding officer] must be deprived of his vote.”

Under the original code of Senate rules, the presiding officer exercised great power over the conduct of the body’s proceedings. Rule XVI provided that “every question of order shall be decided by the President [of the Senate], without debate; but if there be a doubt in his mind, he may call for a sense of the Senate.” Thus, contrary to later practice, the presiding officer was the sole judge of proper procedure and his rulings could not be turned aside by the full Senate without his assent.

… [snip] …

During the twentieth century, the role of the vice president has evolved into more of an executive branch position. Now, the vice president is usually seen as an integral part of a president’s administration and presides over the Senate only on ceremonial occasions or when a tie-breaking vote may be needed. Yet, even though the nature of the job has changed, it is still greatly affected by the personality and skills of the individual incumbent.
 
Well, if she wins, it will be interesting to see her take charge of a 60 / 40 Senate;)

But, as stated in your last paragraph, with the current roles, the VP has been mostly seen as a tie-breaker. Usually the VP isn't around enough to make any difference whatsoever in the House.

And if you think the Majority Leader (either party) would stand for it, hahahahaha.

But, as I said, I think it would be interesting if elected if she really wanted to push it.

Cheney tried it with his own party in power and it didn't work. The senate is pretty much into the whole supremacy thing. If you want to see where the real power is in DC look to the Senate.

She could have said "if they tie, I get to come and in break the tie" that would have been a better explanation.
 
Ah, that's right - and then Larry Craig will be able to sneak in all that legislation that he has been so anxious to get through - like adding 'cottaging' to the list of first amendment rights...;)

Because we all know he won't be 'distracted'...
 
Ah, good more blogging inches devoted to Obama's birth certificate.

Oh, and they are planning ahead - there is a place where you can sign a petition to impeach Obama.

Did you know that in 1982 when Obama was in college, there was a highly irregular incident of multiple cherry bombs in the toilets in his dorm. Now, while there has never been a direct link between Obama and the rash of Columbia dorm bathroom 'bombings' it certainly is worth looking into...
 

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