Jag s type R brakes on a LS
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05 LS8
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I wonder if the 03-05 S type Rs that came with Brembos had a different suspension set up than the 06-08, since the later models had non- Brembos set up.
I believe they re-commoditized the STR with the regular S-Type and just attempted to keep the suspension feel through the computer controlled shocks. The 06-08 STR was all about cost reduction while maintaining the model line-up as ford was shopping Jaguar around. The 03-05 STR is arguably the best STR available. The others were compromises with a regular S-Type.
05 LS8
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YES... the CATs system, with electronically adjustable dampers for control and comfort. I personally wouldn't mind it. I know the earlier years had some major issues, but they really refined the car in 06.
I think the 06 and up cars got vented rear rotors and integrated e-brakes into the rear calipers. Also, more sound proofing. And, last but not least, they added variable valve timing in 06.
I don't know how much of difference there really is between the Brembo equipped cars and non Brembo equipped cars, but i wouldn't imagine it being a lot.
Could just be few feet. But than again, that's the difference between taping someone's bumper or pushing the rear in to the rear doors.
05 LS8
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You may be right. Now i am curious to know if the non Brembo Rs were huge downgrade or not. I will try to dig up some facts and will keep you posted, cause it's gonna bother me till i find out. lol
The first-gen S-Type R had the same brakes as the S-Type, essentially. It was just a bigger engine, with some mild suspension tuning.
The second-gen S-Type R introduced a Super-Charger, Brembo big-brakes, lowered ride height, higher and dual rate springs, re-tuned suspension, different sway bars, some upgraded suspension parts, and re-tuned computer tunes.
The third gen was a downgrade. The S-type went to a single-piston brake caliper, and was mostly a supercharged s-type with different electronic tuning. I think they retained different swaybars and tire/rim packages.
The XFR follows the same format as the third-gen S-Type R, which is mostly just a big engine and sway bars. They rely on the electronic tuning to handle the rest. They did upgrade the XF to have the same size front and rear rotors for the stability control system.
The second-gen S-Type R introduced a Super-Charger, Brembo big-brakes, lowered ride height, higher and dual rate springs, re-tuned suspension, different sway bars, some upgraded suspension parts, and re-tuned computer tunes.
The third gen was a downgrade. The S-type went to a single-piston brake caliper, and was mostly a supercharged s-type with different electronic tuning. I think they retained different swaybars and tire/rim packages.
The XFR follows the same format as the third-gen S-Type R, which is mostly just a big engine and sway bars. They rely on the electronic tuning to handle the rest. They did upgrade the XF to have the same size front and rear rotors for the stability control system.
05 LS8
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That's what's so great about the their Adaptive Dynamics System. You get a car that's very well balanced for everyday driving. Not as aggressive as BMW and not as soft as MB. Comfortable, yet by push of a button it can apex corners like it's on rails.
It's a compromise. You can only do so much with an adjustable shock. At some point you will need an adjusted geometry and tuned springs. Whether or not you will ever get to that point is another question. Most people probably won't. Kind of boils down to that 80/20 rule. 80% of what you will deal with is 20% of what there is to deal with.
