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Got this in an email from my girlfriend, thought you guys would want to know this. Very interesting.

I've been in petroleum pipeline business for about 31 years, currently working for the Kinder-Morgan Pipeline here in San Jose, CA. We deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period from the pipeline; one day it's diesel, the next day it's jet fuel and gasoline. We have 34 storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons. Here are some tricks to help you get your money's worth.

1. Fill up your car or truck in the morning when the temperature is
still cool. Remember that all service stations have their storage
tanks buried below ground; and the colder the ground, the denser the
gasoline. When it gets warmer gasoline expands, so if you're filling
up in the afternoon or in the evening, what should be a gallon is not
exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and
temperature of the fuel (gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, ethanol and other
petroleum products) are significant. Every truckload that we load is
temperature-compensated so that the indicated gallon is actually the
amount pumped. A one-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for
businesses, but service stations don't have temperature compensation
at their pumps.

2. If a tanker truck is filling the station's tank at the time you
want to buy gas, do not fill up; most likely dirt and sludge in the
tank is being stirred up when gas is being delivered, and you might be
transferring that dirt from the bottom of their tank into your car's
tank

3. Fill up when your gas tank is half-full (or half-empty), because
the more gas you have in your tank the less air there is and gasoline
evaporates rapidly, especially when it's warm. (Gasoline storage tanks
have an internal floating 'roof' membrane to act as a barrier between
the gas and the atmosphere, thereby minimizing evaporation.)

4. If you look at the trigger you'll see that it has three delivery
settings: slow, medium and high. When you're filling up do not squeeze
the trigger of the nozzle to the high setting. You should be pumping
at the slow setting, thereby minimizing vapors created while you are
pumping. Hoses at the pump are corrugated; the corrugations act as a
return path for vapor recovery from gas that already has been metered.
If you are pumping at the high setting, the agitated gasoline contains
more vapor, which is being sucked back into the underground tank so
you're getting less gas for your money.
 
I like the info about the tank sludge beign stirred up and I haven't given the vapor loss much thought.

But if you look at the numbers on thermal expansion, the ambient temp of the pump may be high at first, but after the first couple of gallons of gas, it should cool down some. So the relative volume change may be smaller than you think.

For example, the thermal expansion coefficient of gasoline is approx 0.0005 %/degF. Going from a 65 degree tank to a 100 degree pump, means that the volume will increase by 1.8% assuming all the fuel is heated to 100 deg before being metered. However, if you figure the gas is going to cool the pump internals some, the real changes are maybe half that?

Of course with $50 tanks fillups, even 1% is still $0.50. Maybe not something to get out of bed early for, but worth leaving 10 minutes early on the way to work.

Duke
 
That's crazy man, sooo, does your girlfriend work at the pipeline for 31 years????
 
That's it, tomorrow 6 am I am getting up to go get some gas. Good info man.
 
No, his girlfriend hasnt worked anywhere for 31 years. This is an old urban legend from about 10 years ago mixing false info with some accurate info.

and just an FYI...all gas stations have major filters for their underground tanks. Anything "stirred up" from a tanker fill gets filtered by the tanks filters. Anything missed by the tanks filters (not likely) get caught by your cars fuel filters.
 

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