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dereik gregory

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I thought I had a slipping clutch, And I noticed at higher RPMs the car is not firing right (in neutral) I get the feeling when I am driving that the clutch is slipping so I have been really taking it easy. I noticed over 4000rpm it starts to vibrate giving me the feeling it is slipping

I am guessing from the past threads that this may be coils but I have a 2002 V6 5speed (140 000kms) and all of the previous threads seem to deal with v8's

I hope some one can maybe let me know if there might be some diagnostics i can run or some backyard tests.

I feel really douchey complaining about my clutch, when It might be something else.
 
why does that make you feel douchey? are you worried you might offend your clutch by falsely blaming it?
 
Deriek, Bad coils will cause a misfire. A few misfires and it will not affect the car much but you will feel it. You can feel a slight miss in the engine and then it runs file. If it misfires a lot, you will get a check engine light popping on. Then you know you have a coil problem.

The clutch should last more than 86,000 miles. When I have had clutches go out, it is not a shuddering. It is a loss of power or the clutch will not engage.

Keep in mind that the V6 kicks into the power curve for the engine above 4000 RPM and there are some other engine dynamics going on. You might have a fuel filter problem. It might be coils or a clogged exhaust. See if you can get the engine codes pulled and see if there is something there. That's where I would start.
 
im still on stock clutch disc at 96000 miles and ive had an 80 shot for 45000 of those miles and i drive like an a-hole so its not likely to be your clutch.
 
coil packs misfire under load alot and may take awhile to throw a code. check your plugs as well. fuel filter like he said.
 
If you sense that there may be misfiring, pull the car over after a WOT run and smell the exhaust. If it is loaded with that rotten egg smell, you're dumping raw fuel into the catalyst. You can even tell which side is causing it, which for me, both time, was the right side with the intake removal required to service the coils. If it is that side, replace all 3 of them while you are in there.
 
So,

I went to my mechanic and I checked the codes, The only code I have is a p1414 (High Voltage) which is a air pump issue I am going to order the pump and the relay to solve this problem.
I got absolutely no other codes. The car seems to be running better in dry weather, in humid weather it misses as soon as it is under load. Is still misses under load in dry weather but not as much.

I took the engine cover and sprayed (misted) the coils down with water but it made no difference (left Bank)

I tried to smell the exhaust for rotton eggs,but no luck.

If it wasn't the coils what else could it be???
If I change the coils is there a good coil to buy?
When I change the coils I am going to change the plugs what plugs are reccomended?

Should I change anything else at the same time?

Any tips on removing the intake on the 3.0l V6

Thanks to anyone who takes the time to answer
 
You should look at this thread. Re: P1414

http://www.fordforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6900

If you pull the intake on the V6 you should change the plugs since it takes a while to do this. Ford OEM plugs are what I go with. They last 100k miles and have you ever heard of anyone writing that their plugs are crappy? If you have the intake off you should replace the rubber elbow at the EGR valve. (I think that is what it is and not the PCV valve.) This is under the intake and is prone to failure and it a huge expense of time and frustration to find the problem and fix it. I forgot the code it throws.

I have pulled the intake before. You should follow the procedure in the shop manual, it will save you time and frustration.
 
Are there any links to the shop manual for this repair? (changing coils)

Thanks for the info, that may be why they fused my Air pump at the dealer, It is the third pump on the car.
I blow the fuse every winter.... I guess its better than burning the pump...
 

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