Will Glenn Beck denounce conservatives who've cited Mao, Lenin, Viet Cong?

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Will Glenn Beck denounce conservatives who've cited Mao, Lenin, Viet Cong?
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On his Fox News program, Glenn Beck aired a clip of White House communications director Anita Dunn calling Mao Zedong and Mother Teresa two of her "favorite political philosophers" and used those comments to falsely link Dunn to the murder of tens of millions of Chinese under Mao's reign. But numerous conservatives have approvingly cited the tactics of Mao, Vladimir Lenin, and the Viet Cong, stated that they had used those tactics in their political work, or have otherwise highlighted their philosophies -- leading Media Matters for America to question whether or not Beck will denounce them next.

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Mick Jagger said:
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There is a difference between being inspired by the philosophy of Mao and simply supposedly (this is Media Matters after all) acknowledging and adopting certain successful, uncontroversial and completely ethical tactics and pragmatic policy solutions employed by them.

You and Media Matters seem to miss that distinction...
 
"Senator Goldwater in Why Not Victory? said, "that we analyze and copy the strategy of the enemy."

It's simple. If any of these people don't embrace the philosophies of Mao, Castro, Chavez, and the like, they should just clear that up. That doesn't seem unreasonable.
If they view the politics and PHILOSOPHY of Mao as the enemy, they should just say so.
Answer the charge. Face the accusation. Correct and clarify the record. They have a right and responsibility to the public to do so.

Rather than just have Media Matters go out and publish the talking points in response designed to change the subject and shift the focus.
 
Um, Mick,

Do you care to cite any conservatives sitting in the Oval Office bending the President's ear within the last year?

At least you make me laugh.:D
 
shagdrum said:
There is a difference between being inspired by the philosophy of Mao and simply supposedly (this is Media Matters after all) acknowledging and adopting certain successful, uncontroversial and completely ethical tactics and pragmatic policy solutions employed by them.

You and Media Matters seem to miss that distinction...
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What's so controversial and unethical about "everybody has their own path" and "go find the thing that is unique to you, the challenge that is actually yours, not somebody else's challenge?"
 
Calabrio said:
"Senator Goldwater in Why Not Victory? said, "that we analyze and copy the strategy of the enemy."

It's simple. If any of these people don't embrace the philosophies of Mao, Castro, Chavez, and the like, they should just clear that up. That doesn't seem unreasonable.
If they view the politics and PHILOSOPHY of Mao as the enemy, they should just say so.
Answer the charge. Face the accusation. Correct and clarify the record. They have a right and responsibility to the public to do so.

Rather than just have Media Matters go out and publish the talking points in response designed to change the subject and shift the focus.
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Why don't you establish a Right Wing Version of Media Matters to fight liberal misinformation?
 
MonsterMark said:
Um, Mick,

Do you care to cite any conservatives sitting in the Oval Office bending the President's ear within the last year?

At least you make me laugh.:D
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I don't want any right wing nut jobs bending the President's ear.
 
Mick Jagger said:
George Bush encouraged his adviser to read about Mao, because he admired the way Mao slaughtered people.
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Obviously, your statement can't be taken seriously....
Thanks for at least recognizing that Mao slaughtered and was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of Chinese.

Read the biography about Mao.
That's not the same as "Mao is one of my favorite political philosophers."
And then going on to use the Chinese revolution as demonstration of a feel-good positive, can-do attitude.
 
Mick Jagger said:
Is it the same as Glenn Beck praising Adolph Hitler as one of history's great minds?
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You've yet to provide that quote in its full context, but yes, it's completely different than that.

Are you saying that Hitler was not a masterful political figure?
Did he say that Hitler was one of his "favorite political philosophers" and then use the Nazi invasion of Poland as story to inspire high school students?

Anita Dunn did that with Chairman Mao Zedong.
A monster responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of Chinese.

Is it smart to study Mao, to understand him, what he did, why he did it, and how people responded to it. Absolutely. I think it's important that all of us do that.

But would your favorite philosopher be someone who's philosophy you completely disagreed with? Media Matters keeps making this ridiculous attempt to link this story with Hitler, but is Anita Dunn had said, "my two favorite political philosophers, Mother Theresa and HITLER" wouldn't that be shocking? Especially if she went on to tell a warm little story about young Hitler being told he'll never be able to take control of continental Europe, but Hitler prevailed because of his inspirational attitude.

This video exposed yet another radical member of the Obama administration... and she's been working within the Democrat party for a long time now.
 
Glenn Beck said that if he was President of the United States, he would want Adolph Hitler to be a member of this cabinet.
 
General "advice" is not the same as philosophical "ideas".
 
Mick Jagger said:
Did you know that Grover Norquist worships Vladimir Lenin?
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Does Grover Norquist work for the White House?
Second, does he "worship" Lenin, or merely have a picture of him?
And do you suspect that Grover Norquist is a communist or a Leninist?
But most importantly, what the does he have to do with conversation?

I know Media Matters has invested a lot of time to this effort to cover for Annita Dunn. Though they don't actually defend Annita, they just seem to try to make a lot of noise create a distraction. So, it's not a big surprise that they decided to post this anecdote about Norquist and his pet snake with a communist name.

But does anyone plan on actually arguing that this administration, or the people near the President, ARE NOT full of radical leftists, people who embrace the political philosophy of Marx, Castro, or Mao?
 
Calabrio said:
But does anyone plan on actually arguing that this administration, or the people near the President, ARE NOT full of radical leftists, people who embrace the political philosophy of Marx, Castro, or Mao?
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Why don't you point out a few people near the President that you believe embrace the political philosophy of Marx, Castro, or Mao?
 
Mick Jagger said:
Why don't you point out a few people near the President that you believe embrace the political philosophy of Marx, Castro, or Mao?
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Let's start with Van Jones, the previous green jobs "adviser."
What about Mark Lloyd, the FCC Diversity Chairman.
What about Annita Dunn, the White House Communications Director.
How about Carol M. Browner, the Climate Czar.
And probably John Holdren, the science 'czar' and Cass Sunstein, the regulatory 'czar'.

There are more, but those are some of the most openly radical and first I could think. There are plenty of others, but it's a little more difficult to demonstrate it.
 
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