Right-winger's wet dream will run, but only if....
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MonsterMark
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Newt is not electable.
I would really think about voting for him
Just about all of the candidates have some baggage.
fossten
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Newt's a good guy. He has some small issues regarding global warming and a couple of others, but we could do a lot worse.
Bryan, do you really think Hillary is any more electable?
Rick W
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Knock'em Dead Fred! Newt for Sgt at Arms!s
Newt needs to just stay put and throw the bombs at both sides like he's been doing. He best when holding Rep's and Dem's tootsies to the ginder! I'll stick with Fred
Newt needs to just stay put and throw the bombs at both sides like he's been doing. He best when holding Rep's and Dem's tootsies to the ginder! I'll stick with Fred
MonsterMark
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Yes I do!
This Country is circling the cess-pool cover. Our morals are disappearing. Blah, blah, blah.
The Country is dumbed-down to the point that nobody gives a crap who is running. Do they have a (D) or an (R) next to their name is as deep as the thought process goes. Nobody knows or understands the issues.
Hillary is one of the biggest liars on the planet (next to husband Bill) and nobody cares. Nobody calls her on it.
The liberal MSM wants Hillary for President and they will do and say anything and everything they can to make that happen. Look what they did to Bush to try to get Kerry elected. You don't think they are going to really up the ante this time around? Don't be naive. Clinton is dangerous, the media even more so.
So yes, this Country will likely elect that bitch and the Country will move closer and closer to the socialism the lefties want and the Country will become nothing more than a France or Germany.
The guns will be taken away. The cameras will be on every corner. The thought police will be out in force.
If Hillary is elected, the Country is "F"ed.
My only hope would be that Newt and a couple of guys would once again come to the rescue in 2010 like they did in 1994.
Fred is the best shot we have. He is the most Presidential. The way he speaks is the most Presidential. They way he communicates in a slow and deliberate fashion makes him the most Presidential.
Newt? Too much baggage. Put him in the Cabinet or something like that. He can't beat Hillary. The media won't allow it.
Hmm - and you guys accuse me of having -- what is it? BDS?
Although, I will say this. What concerns me about Hillary the most is the fact that she is the same as GW in reverse. He is very devisive - you either love him or hate him. Hillary seems to be the same in reverse. We need someone more moderate and able to bring the country together more.
Although, I will say this. What concerns me about Hillary the most is the fact that she is the same as GW in reverse. He is very devisive - you either love him or hate him. Hillary seems to be the same in reverse. We need someone more moderate and able to bring the country together more.
fossten
Dedicated LVC Member
First you implicitly deny your BDS and then in the next paragraph you confirm it. Hilarious.
Interesting that you continue to believe that Bush is divisive; this despite his "new tone," his "compassionate conservatism," his growth of the size and scope of the federal government, which Democrats love, his reaching across the aisle and allowing people like Ted Kennedy to write the NCLB bill, and dozens of other examples. He's sided with the Dems on immigration and even tried alongside them to open the borders. How is that not moderate? And in return for that show of magnanimity, he's called names and smeared by the very people he's working with. But in your opinion he's divisive.
Did you ever consider that Bush isn't the problem, that the country is divided for a different reason? I'll give you a few ideas:
1. The media frames issues and people
2. Our universities, where Minutemen are physically assaulted but Ahmadinejad is praised
3. The Democrats, who are the worst name callers in Congress
4. Did I mention the media?
What am I doing, I'm wasting my breath. YOU HAVE BDS. Admit you have a problem, it's the first step to recovery.
Just out of curiosity, is there ANYTHING Bush has done right?
I find it admirable that Newt's looking for people support, which is legal, rather than support from illegal donations like Hillary.
fossten
Dedicated LVC Member
Ouch, TommyB. That's gonna leave a mark. :lol:
Marcus
Dedicated LVC Member
Oh please.
There isn't a candidate out there who hasn't unknowingly taken campaign money from shady people. Hillary returned the money from Hsu, by the way, in spite of the fact that there wasn't anything illegal about in the first place (contrary to your silly statement).
Oh please.
Yeah, there's no pattern of illegal or unethical contributions, or ones from the Chinese to the Clinton's in the past... that recent Hsu thing was a very isolated incident.
Do you really want to examine the fund raising histories of Bill and Hillary? Do you want to start with the Indo-Chinese or the Puerto Rican terrorists? Oh, maybe the Jewish community shopping for a pardon?
Oh please.
Your pulling out that old "everyone does it" argument?!
Thought you were smarter then that...
1: That argument doesn't make the action (in this case illegal campaign contributions) right, or in any way justify it
2: you can't prove that "everyone does it", that is gross hyperbole and distortion! We are just supposed to take your stupid assumption as fact?!
fossten
Dedicated LVC Member
Her violations aren't UNKNOWING. How many candidates have their campaign finance felony violations caught on video?Oh please.
The real question isn't whether Hillary is a violator. The issue is whether or not she'll be held accountable for her crimes.
MonsterMark
Dedicated LVC Member
First this Gem....
And then this retort....
Tommy, put on a helmet before you hurt yourself.:Bang
The Ownage you are suffering is starting to take a toll.*owned*
TommyB said:
And then this retort....
Tommy, put on a helmet before you hurt yourself.:Bang
The Ownage you are suffering is starting to take a toll.*owned*
TheDude
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I don't have audio at work, but WTF was Stan Lee doing there? I love that guy.
I guess Hillary would be left-wingers "wet-dream." Well Tommy, look at MonsterMark's avatar--She's all yours.
MonsterMark
Dedicated LVC Member
Well Tommy, look at MonsterMark's avatar--She's all yours.
A picture montage of Hillary for your enjoyment
1) Hillary contemplating universal health care.
2) Hillary confronting the 'other' woman.
3) What Hillary will look like once she takes office.
He was running around, yelling "EXCELCIOR!!!!!"
fossten
Dedicated LVC Member
A picture montage of Hillary for your enjoyment
1) Hillary contemplating universal health care.
2) Hillary confronting the 'other' woman.
3) What Hillary will look like once she takes office.
I thought #3 is what she looks like in the morning. No wonder Bill travels so much.
Gingrich Says No to White House Bid
Sep 29 01:15 PM US/Eastern
By LIBBY QUAID
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich will not run for president in 2008 after determining he could not legally explore a bid and remain as head of his tax-exempt political organization, a spokesman said Saturday.
"Newt is not running," spokesman Rick Tyler said. "It is legally impermissible for him to continue on as chairman of American Solutions (for Winning the Future) and to explore a campaign for president."
Gingrich decided "to continue on raising the challenges America faces and finding solutions to those challenges" as the group's chairman, Tyler said, "rather than pursuing the presidency."
Over the past few months, Gingrich had stoked speculation he might enter the crowded GOP field. He noted that Republicans, especially conservatives, were unhappy with the candidates already in the race.
Yet he also has spoken positively of all the leading contenders, including former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson and Arizona Sen. John McCain.
Just last week, Gingrich said he had given himself a deadline of Oct. 21 to raise $30 million in pledges for a possible White House bid, acknowledging the task was difficult but not impossible.
He abruptly dropped the idea Saturday, apparently unwilling to give up the chairmanship of American Solutions, the political arm of a Gingrich's lucrative empire as an author, pundit and consultant.
American Solutions, a tax-exempt committee he started last October, has paid for Gingrich's travel and has a pollster and fundraiser on staff.
Gingrich makes hundreds of speeches each year, many paid. He will not say how much he charges, and neither will the Washington Speakers Bureau, which books him. But some clients have said they paid $40,000 for a speech.
He also has a contract with Fox News for commentaries and specials; Fox said it does not disclose the terms of its contracts. Gingrich also is a senior fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute.
Gingrich has a daily radio broadcast on more than 400 stations, and he writes a free online newsletter with 200,000 subscribers that is distributed by the conservative news magazine Human Events.
He also has a for-profit think tank, the Center for Health Transformation, which grew out of the consulting firm he started after leaving Congress in 1999.
Gingrich quit Congress when his party, after spotlighting President Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky, lost seats in the 1998 elections. The next year, Gingrich's involvement with a congressional aide, Callista Bisek, led to his divorce from his second wife, Marianne; he later married Bisek.
Gingrich, 64, tried to rehabilitate his image this year by admitting publicly to his extramarital affair during the Clinton impeachment scandal. He made the admission in an interview last month with Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, and he won praise for the acknowledgment from another conservative Christian leader, the Rev. Jerry Falwell.
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Sep 29 01:15 PM US/Eastern
By LIBBY QUAID
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich will not run for president in 2008 after determining he could not legally explore a bid and remain as head of his tax-exempt political organization, a spokesman said Saturday.
"Newt is not running," spokesman Rick Tyler said. "It is legally impermissible for him to continue on as chairman of American Solutions (for Winning the Future) and to explore a campaign for president."
Gingrich decided "to continue on raising the challenges America faces and finding solutions to those challenges" as the group's chairman, Tyler said, "rather than pursuing the presidency."
Over the past few months, Gingrich had stoked speculation he might enter the crowded GOP field. He noted that Republicans, especially conservatives, were unhappy with the candidates already in the race.
Yet he also has spoken positively of all the leading contenders, including former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson and Arizona Sen. John McCain.
Just last week, Gingrich said he had given himself a deadline of Oct. 21 to raise $30 million in pledges for a possible White House bid, acknowledging the task was difficult but not impossible.
He abruptly dropped the idea Saturday, apparently unwilling to give up the chairmanship of American Solutions, the political arm of a Gingrich's lucrative empire as an author, pundit and consultant.
American Solutions, a tax-exempt committee he started last October, has paid for Gingrich's travel and has a pollster and fundraiser on staff.
Gingrich makes hundreds of speeches each year, many paid. He will not say how much he charges, and neither will the Washington Speakers Bureau, which books him. But some clients have said they paid $40,000 for a speech.
He also has a contract with Fox News for commentaries and specials; Fox said it does not disclose the terms of its contracts. Gingrich also is a senior fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute.
Gingrich has a daily radio broadcast on more than 400 stations, and he writes a free online newsletter with 200,000 subscribers that is distributed by the conservative news magazine Human Events.
He also has a for-profit think tank, the Center for Health Transformation, which grew out of the consulting firm he started after leaving Congress in 1999.
Gingrich quit Congress when his party, after spotlighting President Clinton's affair with Monica Lewinsky, lost seats in the 1998 elections. The next year, Gingrich's involvement with a congressional aide, Callista Bisek, led to his divorce from his second wife, Marianne; he later married Bisek.
Gingrich, 64, tried to rehabilitate his image this year by admitting publicly to his extramarital affair during the Clinton impeachment scandal. He made the admission in an interview last month with Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, and he won praise for the acknowledgment from another conservative Christian leader, the Rev. Jerry Falwell.
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.