How many Conservatives does that make now?

[TheDude]

GOP Senator Larry Craig Arrested For "Lewd Conduct" In Men's Room

“At 1216 hours, Craig tapped his right foot. I recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct. Craig tapped his toes several times and moves his foot closer to my foot. I moved my foot up and down slowly. While this was occurring, the male in the stall to my right was still present. I could hear several unknown persons in the restroom that appeared to use the restroom for its intended use. The presence of others did not seem to deter Craig as he moved his right foot so that it touched the side of my left foot which was within my stall area,” the report states.

Craig then proceeded to swipe his hand under the stall divider several times, and Karsnia noted in his report that “I could ... see Craig had a gold ring on his ring finger as his hand was on my side of the stall divider.”

Full Story:
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/08/gop_senator_larry_craig_arrested_for_lewd_conduct.php

 

[MonsterMark]

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That leaves us 119,345,670 behind the dems on this one.

 

[MAC1]

Would you please clarify your question. What do you mean "How many Conservatives does that make now?"

 

[fossten]

GOP Senator Larry Craig Arrested For "Lewd Conduct" In Men's Room

“At 1216 hours, Craig tapped his right foot. I recognized this as a signal used by persons wishing to engage in lewd conduct. Craig tapped his toes several times and moves his foot closer to my foot. I moved my foot up and down slowly. While this was occurring, the male in the stall to my right was still present. I could hear several unknown persons in the restroom that appeared to use the restroom for its intended use. The presence of others did not seem to deter Craig as he moved his right foot so that it touched the side of my left foot which was within my stall area,” the report states.

Craig then proceeded to swipe his hand under the stall divider several times, and Karsnia noted in his report that “I could ... see Craig had a gold ring on his ring finger as his hand was on my side of the stall divider.”

Full Story:
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/08/gop_senator_larry_craig_arrested_for_lewd_conduct.php

Seems odd that a guy on the LEFT side stall would be able to swipe his LEFT hand under the RIGHT stall divider...

Jeez. A guy has trouble pinching off his loaf so he taps his foot in the effort and he gets arrested??? Something seems fishy about this one. Can you say "setup?"

 

[JohnnyBz00LS]

Seems odd that a guy on the LEFT side stall would be able to swipe his LEFT hand under the RIGHT stall divider...

Jeez. A guy has trouble pinching off his loaf so he taps his foot in the effort and he gets arrested??? Something seems fishy about this one. Can you say "setup?"

"A wide stance"?? Sure, whatever you have to tell yourself. He pled guilty, end of story. Another GOP gay basher comes out of the closet.

 

[fossten]

By the way, Deville, Larry Craig is NO conservative. He voted for cloture against the shamnesty bill.

At least he wasn't running a gay escort service out of his townhouse. But I guess that's okay if you're a Democrat, right?

 

[Calabrio]

Why is he a gay basher?
Because he doesn't embrace the homosexual political agenda?

Why does that make him a "basher." The victimhood of the left is tiresome. If you disagree with them, or a person puts the well-being of society before their selfish special interest group, they aren't simply making a thoughtful decision, they are "bashing."

Additional, regardless what's happening here, why do liberals have when people fail to meet their own standards? If a guy knows something is wrong, that doesn't meet he should legislate to accommodate his own personal failings. A guy can preach that adultery is wrong, yet still be too weak to live up to his standard. Just because he can't meet the standards we all should live up to doesn't mean he's wrong for advocating them.

 

[MonsterMark]

Seems odd that a guy on the LEFT side stall would be able to swipe his LEFT hand under the RIGHT stall divider...

I'll hire you as my lawyer any day. Good catch, or do queers wear their rings on their right hand? And I forget, do queers wear the ear ring on the right or left lobe? I don't want to mistakenly entice some guy to hit on me.

 

[Joeychgo]

Good Catch - but why did he plead guilty?

 

[fossten]

Why is he a gay basher?
Because he doesn't embrace the homosexual political agenda?

Why does that make him a "basher." The victimhood of the left is tiresome. If you disagree with them, or a person puts the well-being of society before their selfish special interest group, they aren't simply making a thoughtful decision, they are "bashing."

Additional, regardless what's happening here, why do liberals have when people fail to meet their own standards? If a guy knows something is wrong, that doesn't meet he should legislate to accommodate his own personal failings. A guy can preach that adultery is wrong, yet still be too weak to live up to his standard. Just because he can't meet the standards we all should live up to doesn't mean he's wrong for advocating them.

Definition of a bigot: Anyone who disagrees with a liberal.

And I forget, do queers wear the ear ring on the right or left lobe? I don't want to mistakenly entice some guy to hit on me.

Ask JohnnyBZ, he should know.

 

[TheDude]

By the way, Deville, Larry Craig is NO conservative. He voted for cloture against the shamnesty bill.

At least he wasn't running a gay escort service out of his townhouse. But I guess that's okay if you're a Democrat, right?

He's conservative, maybe not as much as others; still a conservative though.

I couldn't care less about his sexuality, if he's gay, that's his business; that wasn't the point.

 

[TheDude]

Seems odd that a guy on the LEFT side stall would be able to swipe his LEFT hand under the RIGHT stall divider...

Jeez. A guy has trouble pinching off his loaf so he taps his foot in the effort and he gets arrested??? Something seems fishy about this one. Can you say "setup?"

Depends, are we talking about the handicapped stalls which are big enough these days to play a game of handball, or a regular 4 foot stall?

Some gay activist claimed Craig was gay back in 2006 and had participated in similar restroom hijinxs, Craig denied it and said it "was rediculous"... what are the odds?

 

[Calabrio]

He's conservative, maybe not as much as others; still a conservative though.

I couldn't care less about his sexuality, if he's gay, that's his business; that wasn't the point.

Then what was the point?

 

[TheDude]

Then what was the point?

To poke fun at hypocrites.

 

[Calabrio]

To poke fun at hypocrites.

And again I ask, even if he's a hypocrite, what does that prove? First of all, how is he a hypocrite? But secondly, does it make him wrong to oppose policy that isn't in the interest of society, simply because it would make it easier to indulge his impulses?

 

[TheDude]

And again I ask, even if he's a hypocrite, what does that prove? First of all, how is he a hypocrite? But secondly, does it make him wrong to oppose policy that isn't in the interest of society, simply because it would make it easier to indulge his impulses?

First of all, your 'best interest of society' stance is clearly subjective, you [may?] feel gays having equal rights would ruin society and America will crumble, there is no proof of this though.

Secondly, this man has supported a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage on two separate occasions, voted against extending the Federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act and the Federal Hate Crimes Bill to include "gender, gender identity, and sexual orientation". Yet he's participating in illegal homosexual acts; that doesn't make you think twice about this guy’s credibility, especially since he has sway on over our laws?

 

[Calabrio]

Secondly, this man has supported a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage on two separate occasions, voted against extending the Federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act and the Federal Hate Crimes Bill to include "gender, gender identity, and sexual orientation". Yet he's participating in illegal homosexual acts; that doesn't make you think twice about this guy’s credibility, especially since he has sway on over our laws?

Those are two entirely distinctly separate issues.

The behavior Craig apparently is involved in does call into question his judgment and whether it is appropriate to have him in a position of high power. And, as you will see in the coming days, Craig will not be vigorously defended by Republicans and he will be convinced to either step down or at least not run for re-election. He has already lost a leadership position and been recalled from his position in the Romney Presidential campaign.

Mitt Romney has even said that his behavior was disgusting.

His opposition to the radical Gay political agenda is not hypocritical in anyway. You can support something because you know it's good, but still fail to live up those standards. That doesn't mean what you advocate is wrong, it just means that you're a failure.

However, I'd love to see the opposition party hold their members up to such a standard.

 

[fossten]

However, I'd love to see the opposition party hold their members up to such a standard.

I doubt the Republicans will give him a standing ovation and committee chairmanships like the Dems did Gerry Studds.

 

[MAC1]

All I can say is that there is no way I would have pled guilty if I were innocent. I would have defended my reputation, particularly when it comes to accusations of lewd behavior. Either Craig is guilty or a total moron for thinking pleading guilty would make the whole thing go away (no pun intended).

 

[ford nut]

He IS guilty thats why he pled guilty.
Just listen to the tape after he got busted.
http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=6...36d&t=s3&f=06/64&p=Source_MSNBC&fg=&GT1=10252

 

[MERIJONS97LSC]

He IS guilty thats why he pled guilty.
Just listen to the tape after he got busted.
http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=6...36d&t=s3&f=06/64&p=Source_MSNBC&fg=&GT1=10252

I think he was guilty, But I can't see how he was arrested for lewd behavior without some kind of dialogue between the police officer and himself. There was no agreement for sex between the two. Tapping a foot and touching the bottom of the stall is a stretch on lewd behavior! I believe he's guilty because
he pled guilty! If he didn't, I don't think It would of stood up in court. IMO I'm not a lawyer! But when they're trying to catch a guy trying to buy sex from an undercover officer, He first has to talk about price and then hand her the cash, before they can arrest him!! FISHY IS RIGHT FOSSTEN!

 

[MonsterMark]

Good Catch - but why did he plead guilty?

He was coerced to plead guilty to a misdemeanor by the officer all the while being promised if he did plead guilty, the story would be buried.

 

[ford nut]

He was coerced to plead guilty to a misdemeanor by the officer all the while being promised if he did plead guilty, the story would be buried.

LOL did you listen to the link ?

He pled guilty because he used his left hand to to tell the undercover officer "who BTW looks like he is 15" to come on over !

He clamied it was is right had pickin up T.P.

It was a sting and he was caught plain and simple.

Do you think the MPLS airport set a sting just to catch him ?

Belive me it was not the first time he had some fun in a boys room.

 

[fossten]

One more thought about Sen. Craig:

Article I, Section 6 of the US Constitution:

The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

 

[TheDude]

One more thought about Sen. Craig:

Article I, Section 6 of the US Constitution:

The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

Idiot should have done his homework on the US Constitution and not said a word to the police until he had spoken with lawyer. Nice "get out of jail" card there.