I've got 'em. They were on the car when I got it, 235 50 R17's. It's a good touring tire, I've never had any problems with them. What is this "snow" you speak of? We get rain once in a while and they do a good job under normal dirving conditions but leave a little to be desired with "spirited" driving when it's wet. Treadwear is very good; I've put about 10k miles on them in the last 2 years but they look almost new still. I like them but I like Cooper tires. I've got Coopers on all three of my cars. They are a great tire for the price, a really good value.