Fascia Trimming Required for Hitch? Also: My First Post

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What's up everyone? I just picked up a 2004 LS with the V8. My previous ride was a 2002 F150. I do some minor home repairs when need be (drywall, 2x4s, plywood, etc) as well as haul my race bike to the track about 4 times per summer. So I still need the ability to haul a load larger than what the trunk will accept...

I've read all the posts on here that have the keyword "hitch". There's a few hitches out there for my particular car but they all say "Fascia trimming required". Just wondering what exactly that means. Will I have to hack into the red portion of my bumper (red car obviously) or will it just be the black portion along the bottom of the red bumper? I know a few members have added hitches so any advice is appreciated. Pictures would be great!
 
good question....


But, I'd be really careful towing with this car; it certainly was not designed to be a tow vehicle.
 
I think people have had to cut a little square in their bumper, yes. But I'm not certain.


On that topic, I read the Jag S-type has a 1850kg towing capacity. I wonder if that's correct, and if so, why it's more than what's listed for our dear LSes.
 
I think people have had to cut a little square in their bumper, yes. But I'm not certain.


On that topic, I read the Jag S-type has a 1850kg towing capacity. I wonder if that's correct, and if so, why it's more than what's listed for our dear LSes.



A lot has to do with vehicle weight, suspension, factory tires and brakes; even vehicle length comes into play. The first thing I'd look at is GVWR between the two vehicles; there could be your difference.
 
good question....


But, I'd be really careful towing with this car; it certainly was not designed to be a tow vehicle.

Understood. I'm aware that I might have to rent one of those pickups from Home Depot from time to time.

I don't have the trailer yet (no way to get it home without a hitch!) but the ones that I've been looking at are about 500 pounds. Add in the bike (450) and the related gear/tent etc and I'm somewhere south of 1500 pounds. Well below the towing limit. I know it's not gonna go down the road like my F150 did but it's got to be better than the guy with the Jetta pulling an enclosed trailer! I only have to go about 140 miles, too. So that helps. And like I said, it's not like I'll be towing with the car every weekend. If that was the case, I'd have kept the truck. I just need this car to tow maybe a total of 6 times per year. So I'm a little disappointed to read that owlman thinks I have to hack into the bumper. That stinks for the 359 days of the year that I'm not pulling a trailer. But I'd still like some visual proof! :D
 
From page 216 of the 2004 Lincoln LS owner's manual:

TRAILER TOWING
Your vehicle is not equipped to tow. No towing packages are available
through Ford or Lincoln/Mercury dealers.

That being said, you probably can tow with it but you should not. Also don't forget about braking! The LS does not have a trailer plug like your F150 likely did so you would have to hard wire one into the brake wires. That could be costly and would not function properly as there is no trailer braking as most newer F150's have.

Bottom line if you want to "Clampit" it go right ahead. I think a trailer hitch and wiring would be much more of a PITA than renting a Uhaul 6 days a year.

my 2¢
 
From page 216 of the 2004 Lincoln LS owner's manual:



That being said, you probably can tow with it but you should not. Also don't forget about braking! The LS does not have a trailer plug like your F150 likely did so you would have to hard wire one into the brake wires. That could be costly and would not function properly as there is no trailer braking as most newer F150's have.

Bottom line if you want to "Clampit" it go right ahead. I think a trailer hitch and wiring would be much more of a PITA than renting a Uhaul 6 days a year.

my 2¢

I don't have my manual in front of me so I'll have to take your word for it. But when I read "Your vehicle is not equipped to tow" I take it to mean that there are no provisions built into the car for towing. IE: trailer wiring harness or a hitch on the bumper. "No towing packages are available through Ford or Lincoln/Mercury dealers" would mean that Ford has no intention of offering those items direct from the factory.

That's not to say that you can't tow with it. Otherwise, why publish the 2000 lbs towing limit?

I will be towing with this car, I'm just trying to accomplish the feat with minimal hacking of the body! That's why I want to hear from and see photos from people who have added a hitch.
 
A co-worker of mine has a pre-03 LS with a tow hitch, doesn't look like he cut into anything. I'd get a picture of it for you tomorrow, but I think he's off this week b/c I haven't seen his car.

I don't know the guy, but if I see him I can ask about the trailer hitch for you.

The manual says the LS is not built to tow a trailer, but anything can tow a trailer - riding lawnmowers, four wheelers, Ford Escorts, etc. The LS has enough power to do it. Just be careful, we hate seeing or hearing about wrecked LS's here.
 
There was a guy...I think he has an Mark VIII, and he cut out for his exhaust tips, and lined the cut edge with some sort of trim, and it looked real good. If you cut carefully, and trim out the cut area with this trim bead(I think it was some door edge gaurd, in black), it can look very nice. I think the key is to make it as factory looking as possible.
Some questions to ask though, are the 140 miles fairly flat, or is it up, and down?
Is there enough rear suspension for the tungue weight? This could be as much as 150-200#. Or, will you creat a bottoming situation? Will you be hauling other people? This would increase the likelihood of bottoming.
I kept my truck, because I tow a boat some 2500 miles per year, and even in my f150, I have had to watch how I load it, to keep everything as balanced as possible.
Also, you better plan on servicing the trans at least once a year, and with the LS, I think that can get into some $erious Doughnut$.
 
I don't have my manual in front of me so I'll have to take your word for it. But when I read "Your vehicle is not equipped to tow" I take it to mean that there are no provisions built into the car for towing. IE: trailer wiring harness or a hitch on the bumper. "No towing packages are available through Ford or Lincoln/Mercury dealers" would mean that Ford has no intention of offering those items direct from the factory.

I can agree with you here. It is not built to tow and there are no available hitches/harnasses available from the factory. Since you are new you should spend some time getting to know the site. There is a vast amount of information here both in printed form and from experienced folks. The tech section contains OM's as well as several very helpfull tech articles/pics written by members. If you are inclined to do any work on the LS yourself you will find these very helpfull.

That's not to say that you can't tow with it. Otherwise, why publish the 2000 lbs towing limit?

I have never seen a published towing limit for the LS. All reviews I have read will either leave that blank or put in "N/A" or "no data" for the value. Are you refering to the GVWR? If so I assume you realize that includes all cargo and passengers as well.

I will be towing with this car, I'm just trying to accomplish the feat with minimal hacking of the body! That's why I want to hear from and see photos from people who have added a hitch.

Good luck on your search. I think I recall seeing one LS with a hitch, but it has been a long time so I'm not sure. I hope you find what you need to help you on your quest.

I would not tow with my car but that's just me. I would not put on 20's/22's, TV screens in the trunk, and a fake convertible top either but I've seen it done (not on the same car but you get my point). Everyone has their opinions of what looks good and things that they care to have on their car. That's what makes it your car.

One last thing
:W to LVC!!
 
I sure as hell wouldnt try towing with an ls the tranny and rear end are already weak why toss more strain on a weak part
 
i think you should just take a sawzall to your back bumper. its only plastic. make sure to do it freehand because measuring and templates are for women. i think youll get surprising results.
 
If you must tow, keep in mind these cars seem to have more than average tranny problems. So I would get an auxilliary cooler in the hopes it keeps temperatures down enough to prevent damage.

Also the 3.9 is not much of a torque engine so don't expect take off to be good and you will generate a fair amount of heat in the tranny if you do a lot of stop and go. Also watch for the tranny hunting gears, ie shifting back and forth from one gear to the next say more often than a couple times a minute for exctended periods, this also generates a lot of heat. Downshift if that happens

I wouldn't tow with the LS unless I must but as long as you keep the total weight down and do not exceed your Gross Combined Weight Rating(GCWR, weight of vehicle, trailer and passengers gas etc) you will probably be OK.

I just get nervous since I have little confidence in the car as a tow vehicle. Guess my F250 has spoiled me.

Most hitch sets require some cutting of the bumper but maybe some one like Hide A Hitch has one for you that won't require cutting.

Good Luck,

Jim Henderson
 
When i first got my '05 LS i found a Gorilla Guard in my trunk which is apparently used for locking a trailer. This worried me and i asked the dealer to check things out to see if there were any signs of a hitch formerly on the car. The said it did NOT have one and laughed about the thought of one. They said in no way should an LS be used for towing. Yes its true even a Ford Escort "could" be used, but i think the issue at question is whether its a smart thing to do with an LS. Could a hitch be physically attached and wired? Sure. Would it tow a trailer down the road from point A to point B? Sure. But with my experience with two different LS's i would have to say its not a smart thing. I notice a difference in drivability with a carload of people, cant imagine what towing a trailer would be like. I'll be interested in how it works out.
 
First off, thanks for all of the replies! I'm reading and considering everything that has been said.

I don't know the guy, but if I see him I can ask about the trailer hitch for you.

That would be great! I'd love to hear from someone with actual towing experience. Maybe, like the majority of people here say, it's not worth it. If that's the case, then it's on to plan "C". (Plan "B" was towing with the wife's 325i...but that would be worse than the LS)

There was a guy...I think he has an Mark VIII, and he cut out for his exhaust tips, and lined the cut edge with some sort of trim, and it looked real good. If you cut carefully, and trim out the cut area with this trim bead(I think it was some door edge gaurd, in black), it can look very nice. I think the key is to make it as factory looking as possible.
Some questions to ask though, are the 140 miles fairly flat, or is it up, and down?
Is there enough rear suspension for the tungue weight? This could be as much as 150-200#. Or, will you creat a bottoming situation? Will you be hauling other people? This would increase the likelihood of bottoming.
I kept my truck, because I tow a boat some 2500 miles per year, and even in my f150, I have had to watch how I load it, to keep everything as balanced as possible.
Also, you better plan on servicing the trans at least once a year, and with the LS, I think that can get into some $erious Doughnut$.

That door trim stuff you're talking about is what I had in my head, too. Sitting in traffic I've had the opportunity to check out other vehicle's towing setup. Yeah, it wouldn't look as nice as it does now, but it doesn't have to be ugly either. As for the 140 miles, yeah, it's pretty flat. I live in MN, afterall! And once I get out of the city (20 miles) it's pretty much 4 lane highway the rest of the way. For the rear suspension, I admit that I don't know the specific tongue weight. I do have the sport suspension which is stiffer. Also, I'd be flying solo when trailering the bike to the track. Tranny: the car that I bought is actually a Ford Buyback car. Ford bought it back from the owner, rebuilt the tranny and I bought it. Knowing that, I bought the extended warranty to get me through 75,000 miles.

I have never seen a published towing limit for the LS. All reviews I have read will either leave that blank or put in "N/A" or "no data" for the value. Are you refering to the GVWR? If so I assume you realize that includes all cargo and passengers as well.

I'm not sure where I found that number, either. I found it when I was looking specifically for a car capable of towing, though. I was originally looking at a newer Maxima. We had one in the past with good results. However, they have a limit of 1000 lbs. Then I saw 2000 lbs for the LS and never looked back. Now I'm starting to wonder if I made the wrong choice...
I've looked through a couple of the tech articles, but like you said, there's a vast amount of info on this site. It seems like a really great place with people who know what they're talking about. Also, I haven't detected much of the "internet attitude" that can quickly ruin a good forum! Thanks for the welcome!

i think you should just take a sawzall to your back bumper. its only plastic. make sure to do it freehand because measuring and templates are for women. i think youll get surprising results.
:bowrofl: I'll use a realy coarse blade, too. That way the job will get done more quickly!

So I would get an auxilliary cooler in the hopes it keeps temperatures down enough to prevent damage.

Also the 3.9 is not much of a torque engine so don't expect take off to be good and you will generate a fair amount of heat in the tranny if you do a lot of stop and go. Also watch for the tranny hunting gears, ie shifting back and forth from one gear to the next say more often than a couple times a minute for exctended periods, this also generates a lot of heat. Downshift if that happens.

Man, maybe it would have been cheaper to keep the truck and pay for the 12 MPG than it would be to buy a hitch, trailer, tranny cooler, tranny repair, etc...I know that some of these scenarios are worst case, but you never know. I'd rather spend the cash upfront than be stranded alongside the road. Like I said above, the road is fairly flat. So I don't think there will be a lot of gear hunting once I'm up to speed. But I'll watch for it. hey, I can tell all my coworkers, who are dumbfounded by the manual capability of my automatic, that it's for towing!!:D
 
Better load up your cooler and start making your way to St Paul then.

St. Paul? Sweet! Another person from MN. I'm further north, in Grand Rapids. I've only seen two other LS's up here, and both are COMPLETELY stock. Just clearing my headlights has made it stand out!
 
buy a cheap truck and use it 3 times a year

Thought about it. I just don't have the space to store a 3rd vehicle. Right now we've got 2 cars, a street bike, a race bike and all of the 3.5 year old's toys (Power Wheels, bike, trike, etc). Even with 3 garage stalls it fills up quick! The other option is my dad actually has a 1986 F150 with a straight 6 that he doesn't use. Trouble is, the truck is 2.5 hours in the wrong direction from where I usually need to tow. Yet another option is to have one of the other area racers haul my bike up to the track for me. It would cost me a few bucks to cover his gas but I wouldn't have to deal with a trailer. If I need something from Home Depot or whatever, I could rent a pickup. I know HD has them for $20 for 90 minutes. Over the long run it's gonna be more expensive, but at least I don't have to buy a trailer and hitch and replace my tranny...

St. Paul? Sweet! Another person from MN. I'm further north, in Grand Rapids. I've only seen two other LS's up here, and both are COMPLETELY stock. Just clearing my headlights has made it stand out!
Nice! I checked out the Midwest forum and it didn't seem like a lot of MN activity in there. I see a lot LS' driving around the metro area, though. Most of them are stock, too. I've only had mine for a little over a week so I haven't done anything to it yet. But I bought it with tinted windows already in place so it's different than most. I don't know, I think it's a rare enough car around these parts where you don't really need to mod it to stand out. Just based on the fact that it's not a Silverardo, F150, Ram or SUV of any sort makes it stand out! For the record, I'm actually in Woodbury, but I didn't expect someone from IL to know where that was. Heck, being in GR you might not even know where it is...:) (just east of St Paul)
 
Wow people from Minnesota. I live on Grand Avenue in St. Paul. Hey I was in Woodbury last week. When you get this hitch on I gotta see this.
 
Have seen a post red 03 one here in Key West with a hitch. Looks like the very bottom of the bumper (black plastic part or what is black on my 02) is trimmed a little.
 
Have seen a post red 03 one here in Key West with a hitch. Looks like the very bottom of the bumper (black plastic part or what is black on my 02) is trimmed a little.

That's what I was thinking would need to be trimmed. It looks as if the red portion of the fascia stops where the bottom of the trunk stops. Then the black part goes down another inch or two. I'm about to head out to a shop to see if they know anything. Chances are they've never put a hitch on an LS before, though.

Wow people from Minnesota. I live on Grand Avenue in St. Paul. Hey I was in Woodbury last week. When you get this hitch on I gotta see this.

If I can find my digi cam I'll be sure to post up a pic! I was just riding my motorcycle down Grand Ave on Tuesday night...
 
Wow...I just called a place (near Hastings for the MN guys) to get a quote for a hitch. Grand total is $381!!!
Hitch-$212
Wiring kit-$79
Install hitch-$60
Install wiring-$30

Looks like where I'm really getting screwed is in the hitch itself. On eTrailer.com they're going for about $130. Their wiring kit is a little high, but I'd expect that from a local shop. They've got to make money somehow (other than this hitches!!) Also, $90 is a little high for install. That being said, it's pretty much the sme price that I got from a shop in White Bear Lake.

Looks like if I'm gonna do this whole hitch thing, I'm putting it on myself.

He was able to give me some info on trimming the fascia, though. He assured me that only the black portion along the bottom would need to be trimmed. Nothing in the actual bumper area. So I've got that going for me...which is nice.
 

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