Riverstory
LVC Member
Thanks in advance to any and all for reading this lengthy message. And providing much appreciated feedback.
Facts in order of occurrence-
When I first purchased the LS, my initial attempt at repairing the A/C system was to hook up my manifold gauge set and test for pressures. Zero pressure on both low and high. Because of my limited A/C knowledge, I knew that zero pressures meant a leak and that sometimes because of a slow leak, you can add R-134 to engage the clutch (after vacuum). With A/C running and after adding less than 12oz of R-134, the low side pressure came up to approx. 20 lbs. and the high side only to 30 lbs. And the system would not accept any more R-134. I then observed that the clutch did not engage. So, thinking that the clutch may have failed, I disconnected the clutch wiring from the main harness, added and removed 12V to the clutch wiring, and then observed positive clutch engagement and disengagement (engine not running). Then I unsuccessfully attempted to add additional R-134 with engine running and "forced" clutch engagement. I ran the engine no more than 10 minutes attempting this procedure. No change in the manifold readings nor acceptance of any additional R-134. By this time, my cooling system components arrived and I turned my attention to successfully repairing the engine overheating condition.
Observation - After initial A/C repair attempt and prior to the coolant system repairs, I noticed a few drops of JAG oil on the garage floor. Then traced them to rear of the A/C compressor. I wiped them up and have not observed them since. And I now believe that this is a simple repair.
Yesterday, I again hooked up manifold gauges, observed zero pressures, no clutch engagement and thus began my research using LVC, shop manuals, and Forscan.
FORSCAN
Using Forscan, I ran the limited A/C PID functions and they all report normal behaviors. The A/C pressure sensor reading shows 30psi.
Using Forscan, I ran EATC module test with successful results.
Using the built-in Lincoln diagnostic DATC s/w, I successful ran both the on-demand test and the continuous test - no issues or faults.
Shop Manuals
I've read on the forums where disconnecting the evaporative discharge temp sensor (EDTS) has allowed the clutch to engage. The shop manual states either a B1946 or B1947 fault is a shorted or open EDTS. I have neither fault during DATC reporting.
LVC Forums
In ~4 hours of reading and re-reading, I cannot conclude nor deduce that this issue has appeared before.
I'm thinking it may be a plugged TXV but am praying that I'm wrong (dash removal-ugh). I can't seem to find any information on LVC about troubleshooting a failed TXV so if you could share, I would very much appreciate.
Sorry for the long thread - I wanted to ensure that y'all had the complete picture. Thank you. I'm hoping to avoid a trip to the dealership.
Facts in order of occurrence-
- I acquired a 06 LS approx. 6 weeks ago. It has 117k miles and I purchased it from a neighbor who owned it for 6 years. Therefore I have access to recent history.
- The car had zero road time over the last 12 months but had been started once a month until it warmed up. Doesn't take long to warm up in AZ heat.
- I acquired it with 3 known issues - Overheating, hard trans shifting, A/C inoperative.
- Overheating and hard trans shifting parked the car 1 year ago. Inoperative A/C only occurred within last few months.
- When I brought her home, I immediately attempted a fix on the A/C system. I will address my unsuccessful attempt to fix and observations later in this post.
- Learned of LVC forum. Awesomeness.
- Acquired Ford shop manuals, Ford wiring diagram manual, Ford Powertrain Control/Emissions Diagnostic manual
- Trans shifting issues - fixed with solenoid pack, filter, and exacting fluid fill.
- Installed Forscan on an old laptop and purchased 2 adapters, the second one being the winner. (Thanks Joe for the adapter guidance)
- Overheating - fixed with ALL new cooling system components including radiator. Thanks to all of you that previously addressed this issue with pics and guidance. Yes, I removed the IM. Easy stuff. (Thanks Devin for the DCCV/Recirc pump harness)
- Returned to my A/C repair efforts
When I first purchased the LS, my initial attempt at repairing the A/C system was to hook up my manifold gauge set and test for pressures. Zero pressure on both low and high. Because of my limited A/C knowledge, I knew that zero pressures meant a leak and that sometimes because of a slow leak, you can add R-134 to engage the clutch (after vacuum). With A/C running and after adding less than 12oz of R-134, the low side pressure came up to approx. 20 lbs. and the high side only to 30 lbs. And the system would not accept any more R-134. I then observed that the clutch did not engage. So, thinking that the clutch may have failed, I disconnected the clutch wiring from the main harness, added and removed 12V to the clutch wiring, and then observed positive clutch engagement and disengagement (engine not running). Then I unsuccessfully attempted to add additional R-134 with engine running and "forced" clutch engagement. I ran the engine no more than 10 minutes attempting this procedure. No change in the manifold readings nor acceptance of any additional R-134. By this time, my cooling system components arrived and I turned my attention to successfully repairing the engine overheating condition.
Observation - After initial A/C repair attempt and prior to the coolant system repairs, I noticed a few drops of JAG oil on the garage floor. Then traced them to rear of the A/C compressor. I wiped them up and have not observed them since. And I now believe that this is a simple repair.
Yesterday, I again hooked up manifold gauges, observed zero pressures, no clutch engagement and thus began my research using LVC, shop manuals, and Forscan.
FORSCAN
Using Forscan, I ran the limited A/C PID functions and they all report normal behaviors. The A/C pressure sensor reading shows 30psi.
Using Forscan, I ran EATC module test with successful results.
Using the built-in Lincoln diagnostic DATC s/w, I successful ran both the on-demand test and the continuous test - no issues or faults.
Shop Manuals
I've read on the forums where disconnecting the evaporative discharge temp sensor (EDTS) has allowed the clutch to engage. The shop manual states either a B1946 or B1947 fault is a shorted or open EDTS. I have neither fault during DATC reporting.
LVC Forums
In ~4 hours of reading and re-reading, I cannot conclude nor deduce that this issue has appeared before.
I'm thinking it may be a plugged TXV but am praying that I'm wrong (dash removal-ugh). I can't seem to find any information on LVC about troubleshooting a failed TXV so if you could share, I would very much appreciate.
Sorry for the long thread - I wanted to ensure that y'all had the complete picture. Thank you. I'm hoping to avoid a trip to the dealership.