everytime i get in my car and take off within 5 minutes my brain tells me "hey i should put on my seatbelt" depending on what mood im in i either ingnore that suggestion or say to myself if i get into an accident i could go through the windshield and be in a wheelchair the rest of my life and buckle up....i just wanna do a little survey to see who is smart and buckles up.

i always buckle no matter if i go into someones car, or if someone comes into my car. I always say buckle up.

everytime i get in my car and take off within 5 minutes my brain tells me "hey i should put on my seatbelt" depending on what mood im in i either ingnore that suggestion or say to myself if i get into an accident i could go through the windshield and be in a wheelchair the rest of my life and buckle up....i just wanna do a little survey to see who is smart and buckles up.
I, myself, prefer to have a restraint in the rare instance that I would get into an accident or worse yet, some of those boys with wrecked LS's hitting me..........jk.

Michigan Law - Click it or Ticket! - I Always wear my safety belt, not just because of a ticket, but now being able to pull you over "just" for a safety belt, not worth it and being safe is a lot easier :D

I always do.

If I'm going out just to drive - I wear the 'good belts'

Michigan Law - Click it or Ticket! - I Always wear my safety belt, not just because of a ticket, but now being able to pull you over "just" for a safety belt, not worth it and being safe is a lot easier :D

:I same in Mass.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/notnormal11/LincolnCrash.jpg

YUP, i do!

I always have, such a simple thing to do. As for the people who say they are uncomfortable, i dont even know mine is there antmore. Make it part of your habit each time you get in your car.

Had my girlfriend and I not have had ours on, i might not be typing this right now!

I always wear seat belts. I totaled my Ford Ranger in March and I am glad I was wearing them.

never do in the city, i do when i'm on the highway, and when a cop pulls me over i put them on fast!

I am probably alive at least once and perhaps as many as twice since I always wear my seat belt.

My first accident was a rear ender at maybe 60mph. My Datsun wagon was totalled, it was smashed all the way to the back of my seat, and my seat was twisted back maybe 20 degrees. During the accident I was unable to see for a second or so(vision black out). When I was able to see, I was headed to the divider wall. Since the belt held me in place I was still able to control my car and avoid a much worse wreck. Only injuries were sore chest muscles and a few tiny pin pricks from flying glass.

This is possibly the biggest advantage in my mind of belts. The belt keeps you in your seat so you still have control. It also helps keep you in your seat if you are an enthusiastic driver.

I also once T'Boned a car maybe at about 20mph. Without the belt I probably would have flown thru the windshield. I was totally uninjured.

Last serious accident I had, March this year, I was in a 4 car pile up. I was thrown hard enough to shove the steering wheel down from it's normal position with just my hands. If instead I was unbelted, I probably would have a crushed chest from the steering wheel. Onlu injuries were stiff neck, sore wrist and banged knee.

One accident I was not in was a friend of mine. He had just bought a brand new Subaru Wagon and at that time he was just a teenager with just a year experience. He was up in the mountains and hit some ice and went over the side. He rolled several times. He said it was kind of fun, slow motion but speeding up. Anyway, instead of being thrown from the car he was fine and walked away from the accident. The belts saved him

Belts work way more often than they fail you. The risk of getting thrown or hurt is way higher without belts. And like I said they do help you stay in your seat when you are having fun.

Jim Henderson

never do in the city, i do when i'm on the highway, and when a cop pulls me over i put them on fast!

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Always.

I can't believe that there are actual people who like to drive without seatbelts...I thought we grew up outta that once we stopped eating glue. It's going to be you guys flying out the windshield once you get hit so it's not my problem...just try not to leave any guts on my rims ok?

I can't believe that there are actual people who like to drive without seatbelts...I thought we grew up outta that once we stopped eating glue. It's going to be you guys flying out the windshield once you get hit so it's not my problem...just try not to leave any guts on my rims ok?

I wear them 100% of the time. Had an accident where I T-Boned someone going about 40. Was wearing my seatbelt and still hit my head on the windshield. Not fun. As a kid they felt awkward and messed up my clothes. Figure now Id ratherlive and look like crap then die and look like crap with nicely ironed clothes.:)

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If it matters, my accident happen about 2000ft from my house!

Not wearing my seatbelt would be like me skydiving without my reserve parachute...sure everything usually goes well, but do I wanna take that chance...

My first car was a Triumph TR3 A, it did not have seat belts so I installed them. I always wear them.

Wear mine all the time.

I always wear mine. I'm suspicious of the shoulder belt, though. I think it'd cause whiplash. The whole point of airbags being invented was to take the place of seatbelts. Given my choice, I'd opt for lap belt plus air bag. I've been in 3 accidents in my old Chrysler with just a lap belt and never got hurt.

I wouldn't be here now if I was wearing my seat belt back in '86. That being said, I always wear mine now. I figure I already beat the odds. I do believe it should be a persons choice, only because wearing a seatbelt can kill you too. It's rare, of course.

I can't believe there are people who still drive without them (3-point system)!!! A word of caution to those of you who use a 4-point system without a roll bar/cage: if you roll your car, you better hope the roof doesn't cave in because the two shoulder belts will keep your body propped up. I instruct at BMW CCA driving schools and it is common for students who don't know better to show up at the race track with the above. After the dangers are explained to them, most go back to their 3-point system.

I can't believe that there are actual people who like to drive without seatbelts...I thought we grew up outta that once we stopped eating glue. It's going to be you guys flying out the windshield once you get hit so it's not my problem...just try not to leave any guts on my rims ok?
hey thanks for scaring me into wearing my seatbelt all the time...call me a fool but when a hot girl is in my ride...i just cant do it :Bang

only 3-point are DOT compliant (since they use the factory mounting points, the SCHROTH I use can actually be ordered as a factory add-on now from BMW.

I was in an accident involving me, my car, and a tree, about 1/4 mile from my house that caused me major mouth and facial damage. The messed up thing is that I acutally got in the car and thought," I don't need my seatbelt, I'm just going down the street". It sounds like a commercial, but I did think just that. Ever since then, I can't drive a car without wearing my seatbelt.

only 3-point are DOT compliant (since they use the factory mounting points, the SCHROTH I use can actually be ordered as a factory add-on now from BMW.


The fact remains that a 4-point system without a roll bar/cage is dangerous because you head is propped up in a great position for a caved-in roof to snap it in two! Does BMW disclose any such dangers?

i was told the worst accident you will be in , will happen within 5 minutes from your house.

not challenging your personal beliefs but they also add benefits:

http://www.autotech.com/catalog/schroth.htm
-Furthermore, the high load stresses experienced with seat belts in the head and neck area during a head-on collision (the HIC comparison values) are reduced up to 50%
-Submarining can occur with all types of safetybelts in a head-on collision, which accounts for about 60% of all accidents. Schroth has developed the asm system. asm is an acronym derived from the initials of anti-submarining. The asm system developed by Schroth utilizes the inherent stretch characteristics of the belt material and incorporates a unique patented energy conversion device located on the inside shoulder belt. The danger of Submarining is minimized using the Schroth asm system.
-Schroth Harnessbelts are the only shoulder harnesses produced anywhere that have been certified to meet Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards performance requirements (FMVSS 209).
-This means they are the only street-legal sport shoulder harnesses available. In addition, all Schroth shoulder harnessbelts are tested and approved by Germany's TUV and meet current European ECE 16 standards.

- I only wear my Schroth while autocrossing - I'm much more likely to hit something than roll - in my opinion.

not challenging your personal beliefs but they also add benefits:

http://www.autotech.com/catalog/schroth.htm
-Furthermore, the high load stresses experienced with seat belts in the head and neck area during a head-on collision (the HIC comparison values) are reduced up to 50%
-Submarining can occur with all types of safetybelts in a head-on collision, which accounts for about 60% of all accidents. Schroth has developed the asm system. asm is an acronym derived from the initials of anti-submarining. The asm system developed by Schroth utilizes the inherent stretch characteristics of the belt material and incorporates a unique patented energy conversion device located on the inside shoulder belt. The danger of Submarining is minimized using the Schroth asm system.
-Schroth Harnessbelts are the only shoulder harnesses produced anywhere that have been certified to meet Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards performance requirements (FMVSS 209).
-This means they are the only street-legal sport shoulder harnesses available. In addition, all Schroth shoulder harnessbelts are tested and approved by Germany's TUV and meet current European ECE 16 standards.

- I only wear my Schroth while autocrossing - I'm much more likely to hit something than roll - in my opinion.

Just thought Id add that I agree with you 100% Quik and we are 60 days apart in birthdays. :tmi:

I wear mine all the time. Ex tanker driver... Like someone said earlier don't need a reason to be pulled over....... They may find something else..

ALWAYS, like others I've been in some major accidents and they've save my bacon.

My dad worked for the California Dept of Transportation starting in the early 50's and saw so many accidents he started getting seat belts put in his cars back then.

Make sure your passengers wear their seat belts too, for your safety! An unsecured body being flung about in your car is a serious hazard. How'd you like to be whacked by a 100+lb. bag of wet cement?

ALWAYS, like others I've been in some major accidents and they've save my bacon.

My dad worked for the California Dept of Transportation starting in the early 50's and saw so many accidents he started getting seat belts put in his cars back then.

Make sure your passengers wear their seat belts too, for your safety! An unsecured body being flung about in your car is a serious hazard. How'd you like to be whacked by a 100+lb. bag of wet cement?

Here ye Here!! No one rides in any of my vehicles without strapping up!!

Every day, every trip...its Indiana state law! It didn't used to be mandatory and it took me a while to get in the habit, but now it is just automatic.

Ive been in accidents and all, but honestly I remember to put my seatbelt on maybe 45% of the time, sometimes I do and sometimes I dont.

I do

i always do & when my boyfriend gets in my car, i make him wear his. if he puts up a fight, i just start to pull over & he knows i WILL pull over & wont move till he puts it on. :N

not challenging your personal beliefs but they also add benefits:

http://www.autotech.com/catalog/schroth.htm
-Furthermore, the high load stresses experienced with seat belts in the head and neck area during a head-on collision (the HIC comparison values) are reduced up to 50%
-Submarining can occur with all types of safetybelts in a head-on collision, which accounts for about 60% of all accidents. Schroth has developed the asm system. asm is an acronym derived from the initials of anti-submarining. The asm system developed by Schroth utilizes the inherent stretch characteristics of the belt material and incorporates a unique patented energy conversion device located on the inside shoulder belt. The danger of Submarining is minimized using the Schroth asm system.
-Schroth Harnessbelts are the only shoulder harnesses produced anywhere that have been certified to meet Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards performance requirements (FMVSS 209).
-This means they are the only street-legal sport shoulder harnesses available. In addition, all Schroth shoulder harnessbelts are tested and approved by Germany's TUV and meet current European ECE 16 standards.

- I only wear my Schroth while autocrossing - I'm much more likely to hit something than roll - in my opinion.


My concerns really don't apply to autocrossing. I'd be shocked if you rolled an LS in an autocross. Other than that, my opinion remains the same. I'm not saying the Schroth belts don't work well. Just the opposite! But, the point remains that you shouldn't wear 4,5,6, or 7-point systems without a roll bar/cage! Ask anyone who instructs at race tracks.

airbags werent designed to replace the belts they are only safe when used together. Oh, and I always use my belt

Always buckle up, I feel naked w/out the belt. Plus it takes an extra few seconds to do, which is an extra few seconds my car can warm up before I just go. Probably did not need my belt in my first accident which was last week because I was going probably 8 miles an hour and didn't really move, was kind of cool watching in slow motion a truck get popped in the air and thrown sideways though.

Here ye Here!! No one rides in any of my vehicles without strapping up!!

I agree, I always buckle up. If anyone in my car isn't, I just slam the brakes when no one is behind me to let them know they should.

And for all those who don't buckle up for some reason, I don't think you would want to be without your belt in a crash like this.
http://www.hwysafety.org/Vehicle_Ratings/ce/html/00017.htm

i always wear mine, i've rolled 2 cars and been in head on collisions, saved my life more than once.

My wife and I always wear our seatbelts.Besides its a state law and I dont want a ticket!!!! :waving:

Always wear mine, and everyone in the auto also.
Many years with the local Vol. Fire Service, about 30 PI's(Personal Injury)
accidents per year, probably 30% rollovers, and I have seen alot of people
wearing them get at worst an ambulance ride. But without them, normally
the best they can expect is a helicopter ride and that is not very good odds.

Buckle Please, especially in my nieghborhood.
Thanks.

hey thanks for scaring me into wearing my seatbelt all the time...call me a fool but when a hot girl is in my ride...i just cant do it :Bang

What difference does it make if you have a female in your car or not? I know you are probably trying to get play while you drive but that can easily be done with it on...trust me I know.

What difference does it make if you have a female in your car or not? I know you are probably trying to get play while you drive but that can easily be done with it on...trust me I know.

Well shes hot until her face is half in the glove box and her legs are 30 feet outside the passenger window.

Just click it, if your buddies say something or clown you, well... they dont drive nice lincolns do they, so what they say is actually fairly irrelevant if it isn't pro-seatbelt :D

Well shes hot until her face is half in the glove box and her legs are 30 feet outside the passenger window.

Just click it, if your buddies say something or clown you, well... they dont drive nice lincolns do they, so what they say is actually fairly irrelevant if it isn't pro-seatbelt :D

Why are you telling me that? I never and I mean never drive without my seatbelt it feels so strange. I was telling stateproperty that if he wanted to get play in his car to still buckle up.

Why are you telling me that? I always wear my seat belt man I'm on your team! I never and I mean never drive without my seatbelt it feels so strange/

Are the people that dont wear seatbelts disabling that warning chime?

Are the people that dont wear seatbelts disabling that warning chime?

No, ignoring it. It probably goes off after awhile but I've never had mines off olong enough to find out.

i started wearing my seat belt everyday about a month ago. ecspecially when i got 2 seat belt tickets in 3 days.. lol.. i had to learn the hardway!!!

My wife and the kids aswell where there seatbelts at all times no if and or buts about that!! You could be the best driver in the world but it's not the same for the other people around you!! Rather be safe than fly through the winshield!!

:soapbox: I never travel without them, and my passengers are required to wear them as well. I don't lean so much to the degree that they'll save me in a traffic accident, as I do because I assume more control over the car. I drive fast and I have better ability to control the Mark through curves, and I don't need to be slipping and sliding all over the leather seats.

Then there's the unfortunate aspect of having been in a pretty nasty accident on the expressway, I survived luckily only because I was driving a tank, a Lincoln Mark V, 22 feet of vehicle, as well as over 5'000 lbs. I, however totalled the vehicle I hit. Seat belts don't just save lives, they're just common sense

http://big-boys.com/archive63.html

go to very bad driver....nuf said

http://big-boys.com/archive63.html

go to very bad driver....nuf said

Holy :q

That reminds me of the time I was offroading and my friend (wasn't driving) didn't have his seatbelt on and was thrown around in the SUV when we got stuck in a waist/chest deep stream. He learned kinda quick about what seatbelts do.

Why are you telling me that? I never and I mean never drive without my seatbelt it feels so strange. I was telling stateproperty that if he wanted to get play in his car to still buckle up.

I wasn't saying it to you, but rather stateproperty, i guess the quote, you quoted, didnt show up in my quote, to you :P

Haha if that makes sense!

I wasn't saying it to you, but rather stateproperty, i guess the quote, you quoted, didnt show up in my quote, to you :P

Haha if that makes sense!

Yeah I know exactly what you mean like how I just quoted you but the quote you quoted didn't show up when I quoted your last post, get it? haha!

airbags werent designed to replace the belts they are only safe when used together. Oh, and I always use my belt
Yes, that's exactly what they were invented for. Maybe the newer, de-powered ones assume you're wearing your seat belt, but the whole point of putting air bags in cars was to protect people not wearing seat belts.

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No, ignoring it. It probably goes off after awhile but I've never had mines off olong enough to find out.
The owner's manual tells how to disable it. I disabled mine because it drove me nuts. I always wear my belt when I drive, but sometimes I do stuff like go into a fast food place and get food, come back out, sit in my car, turn it on so I have AC, and eat, and the beltminder would be going off the whole time I ate. It was also an annoyance when washing it sometimes.

Yes, that's exactly what they were invented for. Maybe the newer, de-powered ones assume you're wearing your seat belt, but the whole point of putting air bags in cars was to protect people not wearing seat belts.
not so, you have a higher risk of being killed by the airbag than the crash if you are not wereing your belt. the brak away stering wheel is ment for that.

not so, you have a higher risk of being killed by the airbag than the crash if you are not wereing your belt. the brak away stering wheel is ment for that.

I agree with all the above, are bags are supt to kill you, they are only to assist the supplemental restraint system, as well as to prevent glass and objects to cause you injury :tmi: :wave

not so, you have a higher risk of being killed by the airbag than the crash if you are not wereing your belt. the brak away stering wheel is ment for that.

No. I don't want to turn this into an argument, but here's a nice, informative link for your perusal.

http://tms.ecol.net/newcars/airbag.htm

Airbags were first installed in passenger cars as an extra-cost option in the late 1960s and early 1970s on a handful of General Motors full-size cars. They were designed to inflate with great force, on the assumption that the driver/passenger would not be wearing a seat belt.

Inflation speeds of 200 mph or more -- faster than the human eye can blink -- were deemed necessary by airbag designers to compensate for the unbuckled driver's forward motion during a frontal impact.

This logic made sense at the time. Today, people typically buckle up in response to public safety campaigns and mandatory seat belt laws. Airbag design, however, continues to assume occupants are unbuckled.

I buckle up as soon as I see a cop turning around behind me. :D

And did you see the link I posted earlier???? what airbag keeps you from ending up in the back seat? And what do you do in the enent the bags dont deploy? Or what about roll-overs? Your right this isnt an argument I wear my belts for the safety you feel better without them fine by me. I'd rather lose the comfort and the car and keep the whole living thing...

And did you see the link I posted earlier???? what airbag keeps you from ending up in the back seat? And what do you do in the enent the bags dont deploy? Or what about roll-overs? Your right this isnt an argument I wear my belts for the safety you feel better without them fine by me. I'd rather lose the comfort and the car and keep the whole living thing...

I'll keep my Fantom X and condenser mic in their cases because I don't want their intestines to fly on it when it's their time to learn a lesson.

yea i strap down my es6 when I travel. Nuthin worse that a 61 key workstation smashing the back of your skull. LoL