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Sport or Non-Sport

V-8
May 7th, 2005, 01:16 PM
How do you tell if you have a sport or non sport model?

SurfjaxLS
May 7th, 2005, 01:22 PM
If the bumpers don't have a chrome insert, it's a sport. Also, sst is only available in sport. If you have a 00-02', just see how fast it can go. If it passes 133 you've got a sport.

V-8
May 7th, 2005, 01:33 PM
If the bumpers don't have a chrome insert, it's a sport. Also, sst is only available in sport. If you have a 00-02', just see how fast it can go. If it passes 133 you've got a sport.

Cool, so i have the sport. No chrome, and i have the SST too....

Thanks!

SteveSC
September 20th, 2011, 08:24 PM
The 5 speed manual only came in sport.
To sum up the differences:
No chrome on the bumpers, sport shift if auto, 17" by 7.5 rims (five spoke) versus 16" by 7 (6.5 maybe), firmer shocks.
Did I miss anything?
I guess the speed limiter is different but I have not verified. What are we saying 133 on non sport and none on sport?
I speak for the Gen 1 on the wheels, some gen 2 owners will have to chime in about their wheels.

scjmc
September 20th, 2011, 08:27 PM
I dont think that any gen Is had a limiter. I think the limiter only applies to Gen IIs.

01continental
September 20th, 2011, 08:43 PM
'03-'05 also had these wheels stock. Sport models only. The car below is an '05 Sport LS8.

jmtiseo
September 20th, 2011, 09:43 PM
Sport, by going off my car, sst, v8, no chrome on bumpers. Speed limiter at 133, possible for all gen II's. Makes no sense to call it sport, then throw a speed limiter on it.

jdmans101
September 20th, 2011, 10:34 PM
believe sport models had leather shifters and steering wheels too.

Travis2000LS
September 20th, 2011, 11:03 PM
Okay..
Yes Gen I's have Rev Limiters in them. IDK About speed limiters though. I think The Sport Model of the V8 had a higher speed than the Stock V8 non sport did..
Anyways

Sport
_____

No Chrome on bumpers. Leather Shifter and Steering wheel. Speed Limiter Removed (I think). Stiffer Suspension. SST Electronic shift. Sport Silver Wheels

*V6 Sport had 5 Speed Man Transmission*

Non sport
________

Part Wood Steering Wheel. Wood Shifter Knob. Sloppyier/Squishyer Suspension. Speed Limiter. Chrome on Bumpers.

Yep thats about all the differences

joegr
September 21st, 2011, 08:01 AM
...
Non sport
________

Part Wood Steering Wheel. Wood Shifter Knob. Sloppyier/Squishyer Suspension. Speed Limiter. Chrome on Bumpers.

Yep thats about all the differences

There is a premium sport, and it does have the part wood steering wheel and shifter knob.

TDUB
September 21st, 2011, 11:17 AM
There is a premium sport, and it does have the part wood steering wheel and shifter knob.

+1. It was possible to have a premium sport which still has the chrome on the bumpers. It would also have the 5 spoke 17" rims in chrome, "perforated" seats, and the woodgrain steering wheel and shifter knob as you mentioned.

De-marko
September 21st, 2011, 11:50 AM
Also, I believe the Sport had the 3:58 gears vs 3:31, bigger front sway bar and the oil cooler and came with a supercharger.

jmtiseo
September 21st, 2011, 12:00 PM
Also, I believe the Sport had the 3:58 gears vs 3:31, bigger front sway bar and the oil cooler and came with a supercharger.

They did a good job hiding it under the plastic engine cover. Doesn't even have a whine to it.

cammerfe
September 21st, 2011, 12:36 PM
The speed limiter was due to the tire rating. Because the tires on the Sport are not rated so as to cause a problem (my '02 Sport came with 17" rims and Michelin Pilot Sport tires) the limiter was non-existent. Top speed on my car, minus the spray, is beyond 150, and I hold the Maxton (one mile) record in class at 140.106.

KS

De-marko
September 21st, 2011, 05:40 PM
They did a good job hiding it under the plastic engine cover. Doesn't even have a whine to it.

:lol: Just seeing if anyone was paying attention.

LS4me
September 21st, 2011, 06:24 PM
Also, I believe the Sport had the 3:58 gears vs 3:31, bigger front sway bar and the oil cooler and came with a supercharger.
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-laughing001.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

SteveSC
September 21st, 2011, 06:36 PM
Mine has 3.07:1.

LS4me
September 21st, 2011, 09:12 PM
Mine has 3.07:1.

This has been discussed many, many times before. The manual is the only stock Ls with a 3.07 gear.

All other V6's have the 3.58.
MOST V8's have 3.31; the others have 3.58.

SteveSC
September 21st, 2011, 09:20 PM
As I stated, mine has 3.07:1. It is completely stock, except for a k&n panel filter.

1LoudLS
September 21st, 2011, 11:40 PM
I dont think that any gen Is had a limiter. I think the limiter only applies to Gen IIs.

nope, my 1st gen non sport had a speed limiter, and it was lower than my 2nd gen sport's

Ten96
December 29th, 2011, 03:27 AM
Just to clarify in 2000 there was a premium sport package. With all the trimmings chrome in bumpers v6 and pollished 16" wheels. The 17s in that year were an option, over and above any other package
package. I have that car so I know it exsists.

Ten96
December 29th, 2011, 03:29 AM
Just to clarify in 2000 there was a premium sport package. With all the trimmings chrome in bumpers v6 and pollished 16" wheels. The 17s in that year were an option, over and above any other package. I have that car so I know it exsists.

dNyce LS
December 29th, 2011, 06:34 AM
My bumpers dont have chrome, and i have 17s, but its not a sport model :(

JVIP
December 29th, 2011, 08:20 AM
Just to clarify in 2000 there was a premium sport package. With all the trimmings chrome in bumpers v6 and pollished 16" wheels. The 17s in that year were an option, over and above any other package. I have that car so I know it exsists.

I did the VIN check to see what my car was and got a sport model. It had the leather shifter, chrome on bumpers and polished 16" wheels... I always get confused because I keep seeing that the sports didn't have the chrome on the bumpers in 00.....maybe its just me.

kaball
December 29th, 2011, 08:39 AM
I did the VIN check to see what my car was and got a sport model. It had the leather shifter, chrome on bumpers and polished 16" wheels... I always get confused because I keep seeing that the sports didn't have the chrome on the bumpers in 00.....maybe its just me.

I have a 02 and chrome and when I did a check it was a sport model.... But when I look at my bumper it has square side markers not the rounded ones..

Silver_LS
December 29th, 2011, 09:05 PM
My (now gone) 03 Premium Sport had chrome 8 spoke 17's, no bumper chrome, woodgrain trim / steering wheel / Shifter, v8 with 3.58 gear.

oddball
December 30th, 2011, 09:16 AM
I have a 02 and chrome and when I did a check it was a sport model.... But when I look at my bumper it has square side markers not the rounded ones..

Gen 1 had the "Premium" package, which is sport suspension, 17" wheels, but wood steering wheel and shift knob, standard shifter, chrome bumpers.

kaball
December 30th, 2011, 10:05 AM
Gen 1 had the "Premium" package, which is sport suspension, 17" wheels, but wood steering wheel and shift knob, standard shifter, chrome bumpers.

so from what you said its a "sport" but not a sport? :confused:

LS4me
December 30th, 2011, 10:38 AM
This has been discussed ad nauseum. The ONLY year for a FACTORY premium sport was 2002. It had the appearance of a non-sport with the sport "goodies" underneath. It also had basket-weave seat inserts. Since most parts are interchangeable between the generations the only sure way to tell how the car came from the factory is with a VIN check.

kaball
December 30th, 2011, 11:56 AM
This has been discussed ad nauseum. The ONLY year for a FACTORY premium sport was 2002. It had the appearance of a non-sport with the sport "goodies" underneath. It also had basket-weave seat inserts. Since most parts are interchangeable between the generations the only sure way to tell how the car came from the factory is with a VIN check.

thank you for clarifying it a bit. I have seen bits and pieces here and there but never a full out discussion before.

I think Ford just added to many options for the buyer lol.

joegr
December 30th, 2011, 12:39 PM
This has been discussed ad nauseum. The ONLY year for a FACTORY premium sport was 2002. It had the appearance of a non-sport with the sport "goodies" underneath. It also had basket-weave seat inserts. Since most parts are interchangeable between the generations the only sure way to tell how the car came from the factory is with a VIN check.

Weird. My 06 is a premium sport.

LS4me
December 30th, 2011, 04:33 PM
Weird. My 06 is a premium sport.

It's not really a premium sport. It is an '06 with the Premium Option Package; since all '06's (and all '03+ V8s) are "sports".

Additionally, when Lincoln changed the available arrays in '03 they changed the option packages. The non-sport V8 and sport V6 were eliminated in the U.S. market (Canada had more arrays thanks to the confusion of the American buyer). So..... for '03-'06 the two option packages were Ultimate and Premium.

Again, as pretty much all body parts are interchangeable things get interesting when owners customize their cars.

ToeCutter
December 31st, 2011, 05:33 PM
according to my window sticker...the premium is not an option to the sport but a standard equipment group...it doesn't say premium under options, it says it under standard equip.........so I guess there is an ultimate equipment group





http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3037/premiumsport001.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/premiumsport001.jpg/)

99 KOBRA
January 1st, 2012, 10:29 PM
according to my window sticker...the premium is not an option to the sport but a standard equipment group...it doesn't say premium under options, it says it under standard equip.........so I guess there is an ultimate equipment group





http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/3037/premiumsport001.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/premiumsport001.jpg/)

My wife's '04 is a V8 Sport. The window sticker says "order code 220A - V8 Sport" instead of "V8 Premium Sport - 222A." Her "Standard Vehicle Price" is $39,460.00 and yours is $43,520.00.

01continental
January 2nd, 2012, 12:44 AM
ALL 06s are sports regardless of option packages.

LS4me
January 2nd, 2012, 10:50 AM
ALL 06s are sports regardless of option packages.

All 03+ V8s are sports. U.S. spec cars, that is. There were 3 '03 V6s running around that were sports, but I imagine they are long gone. There was some type of a cold weather package that was available that came with 16" wheels.

1LoudLS
January 2nd, 2012, 11:55 PM
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f159/RaulMonkey/Animated/beating-a-dead-horse.gif

1LoudLS
January 2nd, 2012, 11:57 PM
how about this, anybody that is confused which model you have should just post "ME" and someone will be around shortly to exchange your Lincoln with a camery...


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