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Lincolnpimpin
May 4th, 2005, 11:35 PM
Sup yall I'm seriously thinking of purchusing a 2001-2004 Lincoln LS in about a year or 2 and was wondering how fast LS 2000-2004 and if the 2003^ with more HP help so if you know please post how fast LS are and the top speed

Kamikaze
May 5th, 2005, 12:48 AM
Sup yall I'm seriously thinking of purchusing a 2001-2004 Lincoln LS in about a year or 2 and was wondering how fast LS 2000-2004 and if the 2003^ with more HP help so if you know please post how fast LS are and the top speed

It's like really really fast but not super duper fast but it's still fast! Did that help?

dertyclown
May 5th, 2005, 12:52 AM
I know what you mean that said it all

StraDog
May 5th, 2005, 01:48 AM
Buy a '96 Mark VIII LSC, throw some 4.10 gears on, driveshaft, ported cobra intake manifold, Kooks headers with full 2.5" exhaust, shift kit, Vortech supercharger, 255lph fuel pump and adjustable fuel pressure regulator, and a proper dyno tune for the whole setup, and be DONE with it !!!

You'll still have lots of extra cash left over... :Beer JK.

Quik LS
May 5th, 2005, 07:14 AM
Sup yall I'm seriously thinking of purchusing a 2001-2004 Lincoln LS in about a year or 2 and was wondering how fast LS 2000-2004 and if the 2003^ with more HP help so if you know please post how fast LS are and the top speed

the fastest (top speed) LSes are the 00-02 V8 with sport suspension - they hit 143mph.

all non-sport and 03+ are electronically limited to 133mph.

the 03+ 280hp V8 is a little quicker than the pre-03 252hp V8 - in 0-60 and 1/4 mile. There are a few bolt-ons (intake, exhaust, ... tuning) that will make the pre-03 pretty much the same.

jerrym3
May 5th, 2005, 07:15 AM
My 2004 LS8 Sport is fast, maybe a little quicker than my 2003 TBird. (The Bird actually weighs more, even without the added weight of the hardtop, anothger 80 lbs). LS is more fun to drive.

The LS also handles better and drives tighter, but, on a warm, sunny day, driving the Bird with the top down, CDs blasting; kind of hard to beat.

You take the TBird for a Ride, you take the LS for a Drive.

The mechanic that works on my two classic cars has a pre 2003 LS. He's driven my 2004, and says that it's quiker than his LS.

lsbit
May 5th, 2005, 12:08 PM
It's like really really fast but not super duper fast but it's still fast! Did that help?

:) I like that one.

It's just a pretty good balanced car to me, especially for a 4 door sedan. I have learned to appreciate handling and balance more than raw power because I can use it every day. I take the winding backroads on my way home for the fun of it.

I consider it acceptable power for a daily commuter.

Lincolnpimpin
May 5th, 2005, 12:08 PM
Buy a '96 Mark VIII LSC, throw some 4.10 gears on, driveshaft, ported cobra intake manifold, Kooks headers with full 2.5" exhaust, shift kit, Vortech supercharger, 255lph fuel pump and adjustable fuel pressure regulator, and a proper dyno tune for the whole setup, and be DONE with it !!!

You'll still have lots of extra cash left over... :Beer JK.

Yeah was going to get a car just like that off ebay in Houston, Texas perfect with 60000 ml on it I won the bid at $6500 and thought I just bought a 1996 LSC Mark VIII but nope I didn't meet the reserve at $8000 can you belive that. Any ways yeah its either a LS or Mark VIII but probly LS do to little sleeker design.

:L

Fordman
May 5th, 2005, 02:13 PM
My 2004 LS8 Sport is fast, maybe a little quicker than my 2003 TBird. (The Bird actually weighs more, even without the added weight of the hardtop, anothger 80 lbs). LS is more fun to drive.

The LS also handles better and drives tighter, but, on a warm, sunny day, driving the Bird with the top down, CDs blasting; kind of hard to beat.

You take the TBird for a Ride, you take the LS for a Drive.

The mechanic that works on my two classic cars has a pre 2003 LS. He's driven my 2004, and says that it's quiker than his LS.

Hi Jerry, What part of Bergen County are you from. I lived in Garfield for 36 years.... Just curious.

jerrym3
May 5th, 2005, 02:51 PM
Paramus, NJ

Pete02LSE
May 5th, 2005, 10:52 PM
all non-sport and 03+ are electronically limited to 133mph.


Is that right? When I had our 02 LSE dyno'd, it pegged out at 133 mph. We have the select shift...so...that means we have the sport. So....how would it have pegged out at 133?

2k2ls
May 6th, 2005, 12:13 AM
get a civic. then put a real big wing on it. then get some vtec stickers. then drop it so low that you bottom out on the lines on the highway. then put the biggest muffler, no better yet rip the whole exhaust out (remember loud=fast) then race other civics @ 85mph on the track and brag all day about your all show all go fully custom car. Then tell everyone you topped out at 160MPH!!!!! heh?

2k2ls
May 6th, 2005, 12:15 AM
sorry earlier today i ran into a civic on the road revving at my ls. My ls that on its worst day would still beat the piss out of a civic. I was venting...

dertyclown
May 6th, 2005, 12:43 AM
Buy a '96 Mark VIII LSC, throw some 4.10 gears on, driveshaft, ported cobra intake manifold, Kooks headers with full 2.5" exhaust, shift kit, Vortech supercharger, 255lph fuel pump and adjustable fuel pressure regulator, and a proper dyno tune for the whole setup, and be DONE with it !!!

You'll still have lots of extra cash left over... :Beer JK.


you forgot the part were we be come drug delers Ha hA ha AH hAha :I :I :tmi:

Dutch
May 6th, 2005, 01:00 AM
sorry earlier today i ran into a civic on the road revving at my ls. My ls that on its worst day would still beat the piss out of a civic. I was venting...
When I ran my best ever run in my LS, the 15.4 run in my sig, it was against a Civic. He was in the lane with the right of way, and I beat him by a full two seconds, plus my .5 better reaction time. I actually had the pleasure of coming to a complete stop on the race track waiting for the Civic to catch up and turn off before I could turn. What a great feeling!

Quik LS
May 6th, 2005, 07:14 AM
Is that right? When I had our 02 LSE dyno'd, it pegged out at 133 mph. We have the select shift...so...that means we have the sport. So....how would it have pegged out at 133?

Pete - your right - the LSE was a late 02 introduction - so it came with the 03+ 133 limit. I believe the other sport V8 in 02 could hit 143.

Fordman
May 6th, 2005, 08:32 AM
Paramus, NJ

Close enough to Garfield... I was just up there in Feburary. Too COLD... I really don't miss it. Just the food. You can't get good Italian food down here. But I'll trade that in for the weather.

Motts
May 6th, 2005, 10:23 AM
I have a pretty nice lookin civic.. www.cardomain.com/id/rowin2k it'll beat your ls.. ;)

Quik LS
May 6th, 2005, 10:32 AM
looks nice -

but with only Engine/ Exhaust mods of:
- Injen CAI
- HGS wires
- Apexi Exhaust

the only place I'll see it is in my mirrors....

Motts
May 6th, 2005, 10:36 AM
looks nice -

but with only Engine/ Exhaust mods of:
- Injen CAI
- HGS wires
- Apexi Exhaust

i lost my password to my cardomain site... and havent updated it in a while i also have a dc header/aem cams/pullies and stage 2 clutch... its pretty quik..
i havent been up against an ls yet.. i ran against an acura rsx-s, and my girls mazda 6(she cant drive though) lol.... saw both in my mirrors I can tell you its a lot faster then my ls but i only have the v6

Quik LS
May 6th, 2005, 10:41 AM
i lost my password to my cardomain site... and havent updated it in a while i also have a dc header/aem cams/pullies and stage 2 clutch... its pretty quik..
i havent been up against an ls yet.. i ran against an acura rsx-s, and my girls mazda 6(she cant drive though) lol.... saw both in my mirrors I can tell you its a lot faster then my ls but i only have the v6

0-60?
1/4 mile?

Motts
May 6th, 2005, 10:55 AM
never been to the track....
0-60.. i know i'm up their with a mustang gt older 98-99... then he slowly pulls away at about 75 or so...

Motts
May 6th, 2005, 11:05 AM
you probably would see me in your mirrors.. what type of 0-60 1/4 are you running? I personally hate my civic.. I love the LS... I've been trying to sell it for a while!!

Quik LS
May 6th, 2005, 11:29 AM
a 98 GT has 225 hp. 0-60 low 6 sec

we would be close.

My best:

heading - juiced / all motor
0-60 ---- 5.746 / 6.528
1/4 - 13.9350 @ 109.04 / 14.707 @ 98.84

Motts
May 6th, 2005, 11:37 AM
The only thing i like about the civic... is how it handles.. with the tein suspension.. wow!! you can hit 90 degree corners and like 45 and not even skirt the tires.. i'll try to get some times posted if i get a chance to get to the track...

JohnnyBz00LS
May 6th, 2005, 03:00 PM
FWIW, my LS ran 15.56 @ 92.x bone stock. Sig has my time w/ just the CAI (and a little cooler temps).

carpoof
May 8th, 2005, 01:58 PM
I have a 2000 LS V8 and I don't have a speed limiter. I have had my LS up to 152MPH 3 times. It accelerates steadily up to about 130 and then it still speeds up fairly steadily, but a little slower. I guess I might just have a fast one, although mine still takes almost 8 full seconds to get to 60 :Bang

Quik LS
May 8th, 2005, 02:04 PM
hate to call BS here - but we've tested more than 20 LSes with radar guns - 143mph is it.

- lowered 145
- bodykit and aero 147

all the pre-03 V8s hit 142 - 143.

lexdiamondz10304
May 8th, 2005, 03:18 PM
hmmm, do you guys think that the location may be a factor? ex: north vs south? the northern states are colder, so it should be a better fuel air mixture that the southern states, I live in california and it gets hot here, and sometimes notice slight differences when the weather is cold or hot.

DLS8K
May 8th, 2005, 03:21 PM
hate to call BS here - but we've tested more than 20 LSes with radar guns - 143mph is it.

- lowered 145
- bodykit and aero 147

all the pre-03 V8s hit 142 - 143.
HIs spedometer could be off too. My brothers wife had a Taurus that once you got above 70 mph, the actual speed of the car would be about 7-8 mph faster than what you were actually going. Just a thought.

Quik LS
May 8th, 2005, 03:34 PM
hmmm, do you guys think that the location may be a factor? ex: north vs south? the northern states are colder, so it should be a better fuel air mixture that the southern states, I live in california and it gets hot here, and sometimes notice slight differences when the weather is cold or hot.

could account for small differences - but not 10mph. the LLSOC has members all over the country.

maybe downhill?

on the Ford testing oval in Dearborn they proved out where the car tops out.

didjital|
May 8th, 2005, 05:26 PM
Ignore, reply in wrong thread.

Motts
May 8th, 2005, 05:35 PM
I work right by the testing grounds in dearborn, wish i worked there!!!.. lol

JohnnyBz00LS
May 9th, 2005, 10:13 AM
FWIW, my LS ran 15.56 @ 92.x bone stock. Sig has my time w/ just the CAI (and a little cooler temps).

Sig? Could've sworn I had a sig.

Quik LS
May 9th, 2005, 10:21 AM
Sig? Could've sworn I had a sig.


you do now -

__________________
Johnny B
'00 Black LS-V8 - DOB: 4/99 = 3.58 rear!
Mod: LLSOC/DPG-CAI: 15.115@93.39

Dartastic
May 9th, 2005, 10:47 AM
hate to call BS here - but we've tested more than 20 LSes with radar guns - 143mph is it.

- lowered 145
- bodykit and aero 147

all the pre-03 V8s hit 142 - 143.

Dont know if I missed it but what do the 03 to 05 hit? Is there a Rev limiter holding them back? I got my 2004 LS V8 up to 130 and it felt like it had plenty more.

Quik LS
May 9th, 2005, 10:51 AM
right - 03+ are electronically limited to 133mph - with code in the PCM.

you can remove it with the SCT XCalibrator PCM flasher.

Dartastic
May 9th, 2005, 11:01 AM
right - 03+ are electronically limited to 133mph - with code in the PCM.

you can remove it with the SCT XCalibrator PCM flasher.

What will it do with it removed? I swear I had it @ a steady 130 and never felt like I was close to the limiter. Thanks for the info Quik. :Beer

Quik LS
May 9th, 2005, 11:03 AM
right - it's not a rev limiter - it's a speed limiter. With it removed, your car (if it's a V8) should be able to hit the 143mph mark.


Make sure you have the right tire rating for the speed ;)

Dartastic
May 9th, 2005, 11:10 AM
right - it's not a rev limiter - it's a speed limiter. With it removed, your car (if it's a V8) should be able to hit the 143mph mark.


Make sure you have the right tire rating for the speed ;)

I have the Michelin Pilot 235 50R 17's. Plan on going with a nice set of 18's but havent decided on the wheel tire package yet.

Quik LS
May 9th, 2005, 11:19 AM
I believe that most non-sport models were sold with H-rated tires - since they were speed limited anyway - so the issue is if you have H-rated tires and remove the speed limiter bad things could happen.

Dartastic
May 9th, 2005, 11:39 AM
I believe that most non-sport models were sold with H-rated tires - since they were speed limited anyway - so the issue is if you have H-rated tires and remove the speed limiter bad things could happen.

I agree Quik. I have the V8 Ultimate. Doubt they are H rated. Im thinking V. Ill probably go with some Z rated tires.

carpoof
May 25th, 2005, 09:17 PM
Well, like I said, I did hit 152mph 3 times whether you believe it or not, I don't know how I can prove it other than taking a pic of the speedometer. I had a friend with me. I am running stock size tires and the road was flat, it was a cool dry night. Any ideas for proof, I don't have access to a radar gun, but I am more than willing to go take a picture. My LS will easily get to 145 no problem, so I don't know what the problem is, but I did hit 152mph and my speedometer is accurate compared to my friends up to 116 at least. :L

carpoof
May 25th, 2005, 09:28 PM
I didn't think the speedometer was right either. In my county where I was doing these top speed checks, the county roads are exactly 1 mile apart. We drove at that speed for 2 miles according to the roads not the odometer and it took us approximately 48 seconds. That translates into ~152MPH. I also have a video of the car driving at that speed if you all want to see it, although it is dark and not that impressive.

Quik LS
May 25th, 2005, 09:35 PM
What modifications have you done to the car?

PrOpAiN
May 26th, 2005, 01:14 AM
I didn't want to say this before when topics like this came up before... Mainly because what does it really matter, how often are you running top speed anyhow. Plus I knew people would think it was BS, so to avoid any arguement I just kept it to myself. Mine is a 2000 V8 w/ the sport pkg. It was stock at the time, but I had mine up to 155 once. Like carpoof was saying, 145 is not a problem. I even think it would go faster, but I felt 155 was good enough. Once it got to 150 it started going up much slower, I might have pulled an extra 2 or 3 mph. The only thing that would convince me that my car wasn't really doing 155, would be if the Speedo was off. We are talking about a fairly new LS at the time though, but anything is possible. Take this for what it's worth, I'm not trying to disprove anyone's findings.

crm2kmsu
May 26th, 2005, 08:13 PM
Nope, my LS V8 will never be going that fast.

Quik LS
May 26th, 2005, 09:15 PM
well your rims/wheels are good for a 2.107% (too fast) speedo difference

cj7man
May 26th, 2005, 09:48 PM
true speeds(in the absence of timing equipment) are calculated by RPMs, tire diameter spec, final transmission ratio and rearend ratio...speedos are not accurate at either end of the scale...(were you going 3 MPH or 6Mph?...thats +or- 100%)
LSV8 with 26" tires in 5th going 152mph...the tach woud read 5000RPM

now that would be fast! Short of Landspeed racing or bank robbing when would you use it?

Dutch
May 26th, 2005, 11:06 PM
Why are you guys so worried about the speed ratings on your tires? If it really matters that much, how did everyone survive driving cars from 1960-1990? Your tires do not explode if you drive above their speed rating.

sgb00ls
May 27th, 2005, 06:07 AM
:iconcur: Those cars didn't even have steel belted radials.

I believe the speed rating is for a sustained speed over time that the tires could handle not a quick blast to the limit.

I have the 2000 non sport LS and the tires are v rated and that is also the recomended rating on the door sticker.

I am interested in the speed limit of my car also. In researching that question I have seen statements of 133, 140 and somewhere that that was the limit IF the car had a speed limiter. To me that would imply some cars didn't have a speed limiter programmed. Maybe very early 2000s???

I wish I could find where I read that one so it doesn't look like I'm talking out of my exhaust!

carpoof
June 5th, 2005, 12:04 AM
Sorry for the very terrible delay in response times, but my computer has been down for weeks, I am on a borrowed one now. My LS is an early 2000 V8 non sport totally stock with 54K miles. I am running the stock size 16" Tires and have not modified anything. I did however after posting this, just for kicks, went out for another speed check. I had a friend videotape the speedometer going up from about 135 up to 152, you can see the tach and odometer and everything followed by a quick stop afterwards. I did note this time that when the car hit 152MPH, it would suddenly slow down to about 148, then start going back up again, I think it was the rev limiter though because the engine did not cut out noticeably and it was already at about 5500 RPM I believe. I would have recorded the whole thing, but it takes a while and I didn't think I would have enough memory on the camera. I will post or email it to anybody who would like to see it. Hopefully I will be doing better about posting quicker.

carpoof
June 5th, 2005, 12:10 AM
Just to note, my non-sport came stock with "V" rated tires and I replaced them with "W" rated tires.

SoonerLS
June 5th, 2005, 01:00 AM
Why are you guys so worried about the speed ratings on your tires? If it really matters that much, how did everyone survive driving cars from 1960-1990? Your tires do not explode if you drive above their speed rating.
Speed ratings are really about the tire's ability to withstand the thermal loads generated by sustained speeds, so any rating above 90mph isn't all that useful for 99% of us on that basis. As any LS driver should understand, however, this is about more than raw speed. This automobile is not some 1960s muscle car that can only go in a straight line--it's a modern luxury performance sedan that comes to life in the twisties. (As BMW so succinctly put it, happiness is not around the corner, happiness is the corner.)

The effect of the speed rating on handling is what's important. The higher the speed rating, generally speaking, the stiffer the sidewall. Also, the compounds used in the higher-speed rated tires are often different, providing different lateral grip characteristcs. That's why some cars come with V through Z speed ratings when they can't sustain those speeds: it's a part of the handling package.

Motts
June 5th, 2005, 11:32 AM
Sorry for the very terrible delay in response times, but my computer has been down for weeks, I am on a borrowed one now. My LS is an early 2000 V8 non sport totally stock with 54K miles. I am running the stock size 16" Tires and have not modified anything. I did however after posting this, just for kicks, went out for another speed check. I had a friend videotape the speedometer going up from about 135 up to 152, you can see the tach and odometer and everything followed by a quick stop afterwards. I did note this time that when the car hit 152MPH, it would suddenly slow down to about 148, then start going back up again, I think it was the rev limiter though because the engine did not cut out noticeably and it was already at about 5500 RPM I believe. I would have recorded the whole thing, but it takes a while and I didn't think I would have enough memory on the camera. I will post or email it to anybody who would like to see it. Hopefully I will be doing better about posting quicker.

I wana see!!

112 LS
November 15th, 2008, 10:58 PM
my ls is pretty fast as long as all 8 are firing, and they go sideways awesome.

TDUB
November 16th, 2008, 12:29 AM
dude you do realize you just revived a 3 year old thread right?

RollinLS
November 16th, 2008, 01:24 AM
the fastest (top speed) LSes are the 00-02 V8 with sport suspension - they hit 143mph.

all non-sport and 03+ are electronically limited to 133mph.

the 03+ 280hp V8 is a little quicker than the pre-03 252hp V8 - in 0-60 and 1/4 mile. There are a few bolt-ons (intake, exhaust, ... tuning) that will make the pre-03 pretty much the same.

Hmmmm.... I know Quik is very accurate with his info. BUT I had my '00 LS8 to 147mph. Makes me think something isn't right with my speedo or my LS is a freak.:confused:

exceptionaLS
November 16th, 2008, 02:00 AM
Hi Jerry, What part of Bergen County are you from. I lived in Garfield for 36 years.... Just curious.

Im in Closter....Lets chill...cruise route 4 or something

exceptionaLS
November 16th, 2008, 02:01 AM
oh yeah 3 years old....with that said my 00 v6 tops out at 120....did it over the tappan zee bridge one night

SPSully
November 16th, 2008, 07:25 AM
i have no clue where mine tops out... ive seen 130+ and she seemed to be having no problems

HyeLifeLS
November 16th, 2008, 07:39 AM
My 01 V6 sport auto did 135mpm with speedo many times, after that it cuts off.

jiggajatt
November 16th, 2008, 11:36 AM
135mpg damn!

HyeLifeLS
November 16th, 2008, 11:38 AM
how bout that?

gcwimmer
November 16th, 2008, 11:46 AM
135mpg damn!

135 miles per gallon? :eek:

gcwimmer
November 16th, 2008, 11:51 AM
My 01 V6 sport auto did 135mpm with speedo many times, after that it cuts off.


Is that metric...miles per meter? :eek:

gcwimmer
November 16th, 2008, 12:01 PM
135 miles per gallon? :eek:

Is that metric...miles per meter? :eek:


Starting to get some outrages claims.....:eek2: :rolleyes:

cammerfe
November 16th, 2008, 02:39 PM
The first gen Sport V-8s don't have a speed-limiting function built in. I, at present, hold the ECTA National E/F CC record at 140.106 in one mile. And I hold the ECTA National E/F SS record at 138.485. Both records were set at Maxton, NC at the ECTA track attached to the Laurinburg/Maxton airport. I could go much faster if I were running more than a mile.
KS

<edit> The car is an '02 LS V-8 with the intake duct from LSK, full Magnaflow cat-back, slight trans mods from SCT, Accel coil upgrade, NX Pro N2O spray including methanol for fuel-(completely separate system), belly pan, full roll cage and fire supression system. The car rolls on Michelin Pilot P-2s sized 245-45 R18 on Verde rims. For further information see 'Land Speed LS' in the Performance section. KS

Former Member
November 16th, 2008, 10:08 PM
get a bmw 540i sport...youll be alot happier. plus if you can find a 6 speed youll be even happier.

If not i say get a 03+ (interior is alittle nicer), or a 2002 LSE

HyeLifeLS
November 17th, 2008, 10:06 AM
get a bmw 540i sport...youll be alot happier. plus if you can find a 6 speed youll be even happier.

If not i say get a 03+ (interior is alittle nicer), or a 2002 LSE

I think he did buy a car, this thread is 3 years old ha. 03 540i sport is theeee isht!

Former Member
November 17th, 2008, 10:28 PM
my suggestion might not be used to its full potential...is that what your trying to say? lol

who brought this thing back from the dead?


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