Nitrochris April 19th, 2005, 03:28 PM Hello, I am new to this forum and looking into a 96 Mark VIII for a new car. Up untill about 2 weeks ago I had a 93 Sable LS which blew a head gasket and went to the scrapyard. Now I'm looking into a new vehicle and came across the Mark VIII. I'm on a farily low budget as I'm in college (under $7000) and it apears these cars can be found for a decent price with relativly low millage.
I've found a 96 VIII (think its just the 280hp version) with only 17000 miles and a asking price of $7500 though it is a repaired salvage title. Sounds like a great deal for one of these with very low millage. I might go test drive it this weekend so I'm wondering what I should look out for?
I'm aware that the models changed a bit in the 97 run. I've heard there was a transmissioin update with these changes, is that true? How long do the trannies typically last in these? I plan to use it primarilly as a commuting vehicle. I've also seen that the headlights can be a trouble spot so I will check those. I'm looking for something that will be farily reliable and last me a few years (and would be fun to drive!). I'm not too concerned with fuel economy though.
Thanks for any help
Chris
rmac694203 April 19th, 2005, 03:32 PM I have a 96 and the biggest problems I have are the air ride system and the transmission (I think I need the shift accumulators and mlps fixed up). I don't know about paying that much for a salvage title car though, do you know what happened to it? It has really low miles though.
Nitrochris April 19th, 2005, 04:18 PM That was the other thing I forgot to ask, was what would a fair price be for that? I know it seems a bit high and I would hope I could talk the owner down some. KBB on it is around $7000 not including the salvage title. I don't know exactly what happend to it either but it has been fully repaired.
Markviiiedrea April 19th, 2005, 04:27 PM thats too much for a 96 you can get a gen II for $8,000.00 it should be like $3,200.00 for that car. keep looking you can find better for less
Blackout April 19th, 2005, 05:21 PM Hello, I am new to this forum and looking into a 96 Mark VIII for a new car. Up untill about 2 weeks ago I had a 93 Sable LS which blew a head gasket and went to the scrapyard. Now I'm looking into a new vehicle and came across the Mark VIII. I'm on a farily low budget as I'm in college (under $7000) and it apears these cars can be found for a decent price with relativly low millage.
I've found a 96 VIII (think its just the 280hp version) with only 17000 miles and a asking price of $7500 though it is a repaired salvage title. Sounds like a great deal for one of these with very low millage. I might go test drive it this weekend so I'm wondering what I should look out for?
I'm aware that the models changed a bit in the 97 run. I've heard there was a transmissioin update with these changes, is that true? How long do the trannies typically last in these? I plan to use it primarilly as a commuting vehicle. I've also seen that the headlights can be a trouble spot so I will check those. I'm looking for something that will be farily reliable and last me a few years (and would be fun to drive!). I'm not too concerned with fuel economy though.
Thanks for any help
ChrisWow....ummm....I would say to just move on and find something else. I got my 1995 Mark VIII for $4500. I would not even think about paying that much that has a salvage title for it. I would say here's $3000 take it or leave it.
seanklsc April 19th, 2005, 06:32 PM Salvage title = Bargaining chip
17,000 miles is not to be considered in this case. It could have possibly been stored in 1998 after a flood or wreck, then rebuilt last year after sitting all that time. In other words.. you would rather spend $7500 on a clean 96 with closer to 80,000 miles. That way you know it was regularly maintained and kept well.
badbolr April 19th, 2005, 08:46 PM Hey, if it were me I'd pass. Definitely the cost is too high for this one. But in general, the Mark is not a car for a student's budget... If you look at this site as well as websearching you'll see many common problems they have that are costly! $800-1000 to fix the [heater] blend door [mostly 97-98], $500-600 to replace a headlight, transmission shudder [had on 96, 97 and 98], air suspension system, etc. If you get a great one you'll still encounter these probs sooner or later... I'd seriously consider a Honda or Toyota :)
seanklsc April 19th, 2005, 09:11 PM A Honda... or a Toyota...OK! Someone took a wrong turn on the information superhighway and ended up here.
k9t8m April 19th, 2005, 09:47 PM Hey, if it were me I'd pass. Definitely the cost is too high for this one. But in general, the Mark is not a car for a student's budget... If you look at this site as well as websearching you'll see many common problems they have that are costly! $800-1000 to fix the [heater] blend door [mostly 97-98], $500-600 to replace a headlight, transmission shudder [had on 96, 97 and 98], air suspension system, etc. If you get a great one you'll still encounter these probs sooner or later... I'd seriously consider a Honda or Toyota :)
I disagree with the students budget thing. I got my 95 when I was 16, my first car. But I do think that is alot of money for a salvage title car, no matter the mileage.
A couple months ago i drove about 450 miles to look at a 96 lsc, owner said it was beautiful w\ no flaws, did have a salvage title tho. I drove 6 hours each way to spend less than five minutes realizing it was indeed a salvage car (93\94 rear bumper, and a complete 93 interior, and all the correct molding and badging for a 96 lsc, and mileage did NOT match the wear, but it had so many mismatched parts i drove away). And all this time the owner had no idea, he thought that is how it was supposed to be. Just my $.02
Nitrochris April 19th, 2005, 10:43 PM Sounds like everyone thinks the salvage is a bad idea. I'm thinking with the issues on the 1st generation, I'd be better to get a 97 or 98 with higher mileage. As for matinence costs, I try to do what I can myself to keep costs down. I can also say I won't be looking at a Toyota or Honda. The other vehicles I've considered are a 96-97 Thunderbird or a newer Impala. I would prefer a sport coupe though (enjoy a car before a family comes into the picture) and its seems that a Mark VIII can be found for the same price as a T-bird. Thanks for all the feedback.
Chris
scott9050 April 20th, 2005, 12:14 AM Sounds like everyone thinks the salvage is a bad idea. I'm thinking with the issues on the 1st generation, I'd be better to get a 97 or 98 with higher mileage. As for matinence costs, I try to do what I can myself to keep costs down. I can also say I won't be looking at a Toyota or Honda. The other vehicles I've considered are a 96-97 Thunderbird or a newer Impala. I would prefer a sport coupe though (enjoy a car before a family comes into the picture) and its seems that a Mark VIII can be found for the same price as a T-bird. Thanks for all the feedback.
Chris
You can get a decent mile 1st gen really cheap. I paid $1300 for my current 94, $1750 for my 96. The 96 was a fairly good car from the beginning, the 94 is turning out to be solid after a few hundred in parts and my hard work. For 4 grand or less you can get a very solid car with little or nothing wrong.
seanklsc April 20th, 2005, 06:46 AM Sounds like everyone thinks the salvage is a bad idea. I'm thinking with the issues on the 1st generation, I'd be better to get a 97 or 98 with higher mileage. As for matinence costs, I try to do what I can myself to keep costs down. I can also say I won't be looking at a Toyota or Honda. The other vehicles I've considered are a 96-97 Thunderbird or a newer Impala. I would prefer a sport coupe though (enjoy a car before a family comes into the picture) and its seems that a Mark VIII can be found for the same price as a T-bird. Thanks for all the feedback.
Chris
What issues are you talking about? You have it backwards. A Gen 1 is more affordable than a Gen 2. Less electronics, less things to break, HIDs are $175/bulb, tail lamp is $700/each, blend door almost $1000 to fix. What are you talking about?
Nitrochris April 20th, 2005, 09:36 AM What issues are you talking about? You have it backwards. A Gen 1 is more affordable than a Gen 2. Less electronics, less things to break, HIDs are $175/bulb, tail lamp is $700/each, blend door almost $1000 to fix. What are you talking about?
I guess I was under the impression that the Gen 1's had more issues, such as the dim headlights. I didn't take into account repair costs on the newer models though which is a good point. Other than new lights, interior changes and different body style are there any more major mechanical differences between the 1st and 2nd generation Mark's?
Jamler3 April 20th, 2005, 10:05 AM Skip the Salvage Car dude... Unless they've upgraded the hell out of it, that price is nuts!
CHECK THIS:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=179601557&dealer_id=54244091&car_year=1998&search_type=both&make=LINC&sponsorModel=&distance=100&model=MARK8&address=08873&certified=&advanced=&max_price=&min_price=&end_year=1998&start_year=1998&isp=y&lang=en&cardist=100
Punisher April 20th, 2005, 10:10 AM I guess I was under the impression that the Gen 1's had more issues, such as the dim headlights. I didn't take into account repair costs on the newer models though which is a good point. Other than new lights, interior changes and different body style are there any more major mechanical differences between the 1st and 2nd generation Mark's?
I have owned my 93 mark viii for around 5 years and in that time, the only 3 things that ive absolutly had to replace to drive the car are new battery terminals, a new fuel pump, fix gasket on the oil filter adapter. For a grand total of like $315 bucks in repairs.
I bought my car in fairly sad shape too. Person I got it from had it lowered way too much considering it had ground effects and alot of potholes in his neighborhood, he broke them suckers in quite a few spots, and someone hit the rear bumber very hard with a motorcycles front tire at 1 point.
Oh and the 1 other repair ive done is had to rewire the drivers seat because dude that owned it before me spilled his hi c orange mcdonalds pop all over under there and it somehow screwed the wires up.
Im very pleased with the amount of work my car requires, for its year and miles its been basically as troublefree as I could ask..... 142k miles on motor.
1sweet8 April 20th, 2005, 10:38 AM I agree with the majority here - the price seems way too high for a salvage title. A lot of insurance companies won't even insure the car if it has a salvage title - if you decide to go forward with it, make sure and check with your insurance first.
I bought a 96 with 56k miles on it for 6500.00, and to be honest, i probably paid more than i should have, but the car is in great shape - brand new tires, brakes on all 4 corners, all fluids changed recently, etc. Keep looking - there are deals all over the place - you just have to be patient. :L
mespock April 20th, 2005, 11:09 AM Hey I wouldn't worry about miles as much as the salvage title.
Make sure the air ride is working and bags aren't leaking. Make sure the tranny is solid.
A Mark VIII with 100K to 130K is a good buy with many miles left on the car.
You should be able to get them from $2,000 to $4,500. Just spent a month looking around and at many cars. After selling mine for $1300 :waving:
I purchased a 93 Mark VIII in June with 156K on it and have taking up to 183K since. Runs great paid $2,400 for it. That was before I knew anything about a Mark VIII. It is very solid and I would still take it across country. Only money put into this was an accumulator, and Alternator. I purchased a 95 Mark VIII this past March with 118K on it. Paid a little over $3K for it. Great car very solid gain. Drove it from South Carolina to Wisconsin. Would take it anywhere also.
As for Gas mileage I get over 30 mpg hwy on both cars. Total average is usually around 25.5 mpgs.
When I took my 93 to CO through the mountains it got 25+ mpgs through the mountains.
In my opinion the Mark VIII is a great value for anyone!!! But watch what you buy!
scott9050 April 20th, 2005, 05:39 PM There is a guy on another board that has a 76,000 mile 93 for sale for $3,000:
http://www.markviii.org/htdocs/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=27&topic_id=18517&mesg_id=18517&page=
This one will go fast.
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