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ambisonics March 29th, 2005, 05:32 PM Thanks to my compulsive eBay searching for LS parts I came across this. Anybody planning on doing the 03+ HID headlight upgrade might wanna check this out (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7964998878&category=33710). Thats an excellent price and it's rare to find 2 headlights being sold together like that.
Somebody better jump on that! :F
2k2ls March 29th, 2005, 06:04 PM jumpin on it.
ambisonics March 29th, 2005, 08:10 PM Congrats! That auction didn't last too long, but then I didn't really think it would at such a good price.
2k2ls March 29th, 2005, 09:45 PM man thanks for the post. ive been searching for hids. I didnt even give anyone a chance. I contacted the seller and payed. ill be postin pics soon
Chris_n_FL March 29th, 2005, 10:33 PM You plan on putting those on a 2002 LS? Your gonna need more parts.
ambisonics March 29th, 2005, 10:35 PM Thats good to hear. From your member name, I'm assuming that you're going to be installing these on an '02 LS. I'm curious if you purchased the mount panel yet, and what you are going to do about the difference in connectors. My '03 mount panel should arrive next week, but I'm still not 100% sure how I'm going to be wiring them. I'll most likely bypass the '03 headlight plug and wire directly to each bulb inside the headlight. I also plan on taking pictures of the install and writing up a how-to.
2k2ls March 29th, 2005, 10:53 PM im not worried about the plug. what else is involved. If I was able to get r32 skyline lights on my nissan im sure i can get these lights to function.
p.s. I work @ an autoparts and I have a great friend who owns a body shop. oh and my boy dave ownes a audio shop.
2k2ls March 29th, 2005, 10:55 PM oh yea chris n fl your headlights are sick. i too bad you dont have any real close shots. I like how they came out.
Chris_n_FL March 29th, 2005, 10:58 PM Thanks, Like greg was saying you need the front support brace off an 03+. Thats what the heads will be supported by and mounted to. I put a new pic in my garage thats a lil closer.
Greg, do you still have your projectors?
2k2ls March 29th, 2005, 11:14 PM saw the pic. looks nice. must look crazy in person. anyhow the rad support is no problem. im not gonna go new. I can get one from a local yard. just gotta clip the sections i need. Some patience wit the welder, few days in the shop it should all be alright. And it never hurts to have a master mechanic help you out. I think it will turn out alright. hey do you know if the newer headlights have black or grey silicone?
GrayGhost1 March 30th, 2005, 06:18 AM saw the pic. looks nice. must look crazy in person. anyhow the rad support is no problem. im not gonna go new. I can get one from a local yard. just gotta clip the sections i need. Some patience wit the welder, few days in the shop it should all be alright. And it never hurts to have a master mechanic help you out. I think it will turn out alright. hey do you know if the newer headlights have black or grey silicone?
The 2003 and up headlights have a black glue that is virtually indestructable. You will NOT get those headlights apart without destroying the outter lip. I know this for a fact because I've already taken one of the 2003 headlights apart. Heat does not affect the black glue like the grey glue on the earlier model headlights. If you are planning to put angel eyes in those....Good Luck!
2k2ls March 30th, 2005, 10:16 AM found a rad support. $57.81 my cost from lincoln. almost there. Ill be posting pics for a how to.
ambisonics March 30th, 2005, 02:36 PM Thanks, Like greg was saying you need the front support brace off an 03+. Thats what the heads will be supported by and mounted to. I put a new pic in my garage thats a lil closer.
Greg, do you still have your projectors?
Make sure you are getting the correct mount panel. The part number is 3W4Z-8A284-AA and costs about $160 front FPN. $57 sounds kinda cheap.
And Chris, I wound up selling my entire projector set-up with angel eyes and all for $500 I think. I never could get the damn things to stay on without strobing, and I didn't really care much for the look. I'll see if I can post a picture of them. But man, I can't wait to get these '03 lights on.
ambisonics March 30th, 2005, 02:41 PM I think Ken was the one who compared these to some sort of Cyborg from StarTrek lol.
GrayGhost1 March 30th, 2005, 03:45 PM I think Ken was the one who compared these to some sort of Cyborg from StarTrek lol.
Something to that effect. However, I bought a set of projectors with the chrome bezels around it. I've seen some of the projector headlights in the LS that don't look as "cyborgish". I'm currently working on a set of projector headlights and my first deed is to NOT make it look cyborgish.
ambisonics March 30th, 2005, 04:39 PM Best of luck with that project. Retrofitting projectors is not an easy job, but you seem to be pretty handy when it comes to modifying things, so you shouldn't have too much trouble. If only there were a way to get projectors into the '03 headlights......
Chris_n_FL March 30th, 2005, 06:08 PM Damn, i thought you would still have them, i would of bought them off you. I'm in the mood to do another retro maybe using something exotic, the Q45's I was going to do are physically too big for the LS headlight.
Back to the drawing board.
ambisonics March 30th, 2005, 07:18 PM Damn, i thought you would still have them, i would of bought them off you. I'm in the mood to do another retro maybe using something exotic, the Q45's I was going to do are physically too big for the LS headlight.
Back to the drawing board.
Maybe some one of those fancy projector set-ups that turn when you turn the wheel. I think the Infiniti FX and Lexus RX trucks have those. That would be pretty cool. By the way, do you have any pics of what your cut off looks like with the projectors you used?
Here's a pic of the output I had.
Chris_n_FL March 30th, 2005, 07:36 PM I had some on my other computer, but it crashed and I put .45ACP holes in it!!
I will have to get some up to date ones, thanks for reminding me.
eL eS March 30th, 2005, 07:55 PM I had some on my other computer, but it crashed and I put .45ACP holes in it!!
I will have to get some up to date ones, thanks for reminding me.
Are you an avid shooter? Are you member of a range? My shooting buddy, my sons great grandfather, passed away last November and I haven't been out since. all I have now is an SKS and a .22 but have been considering a side arm. I have had all sorts but since I will be sharing this one with my wife was thinking about a Browning .380
Chris_n_FL March 30th, 2005, 08:21 PM I shoot whenever time permits. Right now, i usually go to Knights on US19, its a little costly for a lot of time but I usually just stay the hour and leave. Enough time to relieve the stress.
Right now I have the following:
RIFLES
BushMaster AR15 M4 A3 - .223
Romanian AK47 - 7.63x39
Cetme - .308
HANDGUNS
Glock 26 9mm
Ruger P90dc .45acp
HS2000 9mm (springfield XD9)
I would like to get a Mossberg 12ga. but I have to convince my GF to give me my CC back!!
2k2ls March 30th, 2005, 10:14 PM this is the one from bright bay lincoln. it says 2004 on top.
ambisonics March 31st, 2005, 08:35 AM I don't think that is the bracket that you're going to need. Check out number 6 on this site. (http://www.parts.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getLocator&siteid=318&chapter=DR2KD00&appSectionid=2295&groupid=2296&subgroupid=3242&componentid=0&make=21&model=Lincoln%20ls&year=2004&graphicID=KD00020&callout=6&catalogid=2). That's the mount panel that you need.
Chris_n_FL March 31st, 2005, 09:03 AM yea, looks like 8A284 is the part you need.
eL eS March 31st, 2005, 09:06 AM I shoot whenever time permits. Right now, i usually go to Knights on US19, its a little costly for a lot of time but I usually just stay the hour and leave. Enough time to relieve the stress.
Right now I have the following:
RIFLES
BushMaster AR15 M4 A3 - .223
Romanian AK47 - 7.63x39
Cetme - .308
HANDGUNS
Glock 26 9mm
Ruger P90dc .45acp
HS2000 9mm (springfield XD9)
I would like to get a Mossberg 12ga. but I have to convince my GF to give me my CC back!!
Nice collection going. I love the AK's I had one several years ago was a good shooter. They may have had poor accuracy back in the day but this one was crisp. I had a Desert Eagle 44 and the 357 conversion slide and clips. Glock 40cal both were great pieces never owned a 9mm though. Also, had various 22s with 2 and 4x scopes that we would use to shoot Necco waffer candies at 25 yards.
I worked in the weapons department when was in the Navy and have shot some of the best machine guns as well as the large 5" rapid gun fire systems. Man what a blast I had literally.
Once I pick up a hand gun we should go shoot at Cadillac silhouettes for an hour or two :)
Chris_n_FL March 31st, 2005, 09:33 AM I'm game!
eL eS March 31st, 2005, 09:39 AM I'm game!
uh oh LvC may have some new hit men. :)
2k2ls March 31st, 2005, 01:45 PM ok. i ordered the new number. anything else i need???
Aviatorguy April 3rd, 2005, 11:31 PM Thats good to hear. From your member name, I'm assuming that you're going to be installing these on an '02 LS. I'm curious if you purchased the mount panel yet, and what you are going to do about the difference in connectors. My '03 mount panel should arrive next week, but I'm still not 100% sure how I'm going to be wiring them. I'll most likely bypass the '03 headlight plug and wire directly to each bulb inside the headlight. I also plan on taking pictures of the install and writing up a how-to.
Greg; Have you checked to see if the wiring harnesses can be swapped from a 2000 LS to one from a 2003 LS with HID's? To me that would be the best method. I also am waiting for the reinforcement bar from FPN as I bought a pair of 2004 HID's. If it cant then I anxiously await your how to for the wiring.
2k2ls April 4th, 2005, 10:33 AM well my headlights should be here today. Checked ups tracking so im just waiting. The dealer called me and let me know the panel was in. The wiring is not going to be as involved. Most likely We will sacrifice the connectors from the old lights. Take the pins out and use them on the new lights. Hey aviatorguy didnt you order a panel that got fudged up in transit? what are they going to do about it?
2k2ls April 4th, 2005, 12:50 PM headlights just came in. im goin to the dealer now for the brace
Aviatorguy April 5th, 2005, 11:13 AM well my headlights should be here today. Checked ups tracking so im just waiting. The dealer called me and let me know the panel was in. The wiring is not going to be as involved. Most likely We will sacrifice the connectors from the old lights. Take the pins out and use them on the new lights. Hey aviatorguy didnt you order a panel that got fudged up in transit? what are they going to do about it?
No that wasnt me in regards to the reinforcement bar. That was Greg. I also have some HID lights that I bought and am planning to do the modification to my 2000 LS. I am waiting for the reinforcement bar like I said and also for my 2004 LSE front bumper cover. I would like your help in making the connection to the HID lights with your old wiring harness. Please let me know when you post the how to do and please post some pictures. By the way you got a heck of a deal on those HID for $300, you stole them. Good for you. Thanks
2k2ls April 5th, 2005, 01:26 PM when I saw the post I had no choice but to buy them. I dont even know what they retail for. $300.00 and they were brand new. I dont know or care where they came from. the wiring issue is easy. How to coming real soon.
Aviatorguy April 6th, 2005, 12:12 AM when I saw the post I had no choice but to buy them. I dont even know what they retail for. $300.00 and they were brand new. I dont know or care where they came from. the wiring issue is easy. How to coming real soon.
They retail for $582 each lens brand new. So now you know what I mean when I said you stole them for $300 for both sides and brand new. Looking forward to your how to post.
2k2ls April 6th, 2005, 08:38 AM like i said b4 I dont know or care where they came from I know where they went!!!!! woohoo!
ambisonics April 17th, 2005, 08:02 PM Here they are again. Another great deal I found on the '03 HID headlights. Lets see how quick they go this time. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33710&item=7969037214&rd=1
GrayGhost1 April 17th, 2005, 10:32 PM Here they are again. Another great deal I found on the '03 HID headlights. Lets see how quick they go this time. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33710&item=7969037214&rd=1
Thanks for the heads up. I just bought them.
Aviatorguy April 17th, 2005, 11:38 PM when I saw the post I had no choice but to buy them. I dont even know what they retail for. $300.00 and they were brand new. I dont know or care where they came from. the wiring issue is easy. How to coming real soon.
Just wondering if you have written up the How to for the HID modification on your 2000 LS. I have been waiting. Thanks
GrayGhost1 April 18th, 2005, 06:15 AM Greg; Have you checked to see if the wiring harnesses can be swapped from a 2000 LS to one from a 2003 LS with HID's? To me that would be the best method. I also am waiting for the reinforcement bar from FPN as I bought a pair of 2004 HID's. If it cant then I anxiously await your how to for the wiring.
I would bet that the 2003 and up headlight wiring harness would fit into the pre-2003 harness. I plan to order the 2003 and up wiring harness from Ford Parts Network this week. According to the master part list there is an HID and non-HID wiring harness.
ambisonics April 18th, 2005, 03:21 PM I would bet that the 2003 and up headlight wiring harness would fit into the pre-2003 harness. I plan to order the 2003 and up wiring harness from Ford Parts Network this week. According to the master part list there is an HID and non-HID wiring harness.
Ken, I wouldn't recommend buying one of these harnesses. I ordered the HID harness from them, only to find out that all they send you is the wiring for the blinkers. The rest of the wiring for the '03+ headlights are internal. The only thing that plugs into the headlight is a six prong plug. The easiest thing is to just cut the plugs off and bypass them altogether. I might even write up a little how-to for the wiring tonite.
BTW, I just got mine installed this weekend, and they are great. Pics coming soon.
GrayGhost1 April 18th, 2005, 03:51 PM Ken, I wouldn't recommend buying one of these harnesses. I ordered the HID harness from them, only to find out that all they send you is the wiring for the blinkers. The rest of the wiring for the '03+ headlights are internal. The only thing that plugs into the headlight is a six prong plug. The easiest thing is to just cut the plugs off and bypass them altogether. I might even write up a little how-to for the wiring tonite.
BTW, I just got mine installed this weekend, and they are great. Pics coming soon.
Yeah I confirmed with Ford on that part. It's just the harness for the turn signal. However, I plan to take my car into service this week and I'm real good friends with the Service Manager. I'm going to ask him what harness is needed and get a part number from him, if possible. I'm suspecting that it would be a complete harness switch over and may be a waste of time.
I'm very interested in what you did to hook yours up. If you can do a write and/or take some pics that would be great.
Ken
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