alright, here is what i need. what is the very top speed of a mark 7. it has a 5.0ho, aod with standard gears, 3.08s out back, and the tires are p225/75r15. i have been trying to do the math myself, but i keep getting diffrent answers. i tried edelbrock mag, but those are telling me that the car can do 103 in 2nd gear doing 4000rpm. i dont beleave that for a second. i know that the fule pump wont let the car go over 120, but think of it as it only had a rev limiter. what would it do at 6500rpm in 4th with those gears.

here is what i have been getting so far. let me know what you think

all @ 4000 rpm

1st 38.99
2nd 77.28
3rd 107.22
4th 160.03


1st 39.35
2nd 77.3
3rd 108.43
4th 161.5


Edelbrock

1st 52.52
2nd 103.17
3rd 144.44
4th 215.58

i know that the fule pump wont let the car go over 120

yes it will... :steering

Speed limiting is calculated from the ABS sensors....can't get around that without changing wheel diameter or a different EEC. Governed to 116MPH with stock tires.

I've done 120 many a time... My ABS light was on though, would that have anything to do with it???

hehehehehe

The stock 1990 had a high end of 118 mph.

Around 116 MPH is the computer dictated limit.

Hey I have a 1992 Mark 7 LSC and Im pretty sure it will go 135-140 it would go faster but it keeps shifting down in drive when the peddle is to the floor going that fast. I dont know why your guys car wont go that fast.


:L

So where is this world? Are you running in a vacuum? Do you have some sort of new energy bubble that helps you avoid the effects of drag, wind resistance, and gravity? Do we have any idea how much HORSE POWER it takes to push a car to 150 mph.

Even more important than the reality of physics is this "theoretical fire breathing beast" equipped for this endeavor. At that kind of speed can you avoid trouble, will the brakes stay or give because of heat.

Do your home work. Build it strong and safe.

Quasimoto

:I A bone stock mark VII CANNOT do 135, probably not even 125, but I had my '90 right at 120 mph. That was really pushing it!!! Even with a higher geared rear-end like a 2.73 I dont think it would go that fast.

So where is this world? Are you running in a vacuum? Do you have some sort of new energy bubble that helps you avoid the effects of drag, wind resistance, and gravity? Do we have any idea how much HORSE POWER it takes to push a car to 150 mph.

...

Now now ... play nice.

I know this guy that did the quarter (mile) in 12.08@110 in a HIGHLY MODIFIED Mark VII. I think if DISNEY (http://ourworld-top.cs.com/qtmotorsports/id19.htm?f=fs) was given about 100 more feet of track, ~he~ could bust a 130-150 groove. Stock Mark VIIs where built as luxury sporting coupes. Something in the amount of fuel flow and cam size and air intake restrictions and exhaust restrictions that make us max out before 120.

But those 120 mph speedos in our cars really look sharp! Here's a few pictures of me doing something like 160!!

http://www.lscclub.org/images/oldschool1at112mph1.jpg
http://www.lscclub.org/images/oldschool1at112mph2.jpg
http://www.lscclub.org/images/oldschool1at112mph3.jpg
http://www.lscclub.org/images/oldschool1at112mph4.jpg
http://www.lscclub.org/images/oldschool1at112mph5.jpg
http://www.lscclub.org/images/oldschool1at112mph6.jpg

Um. I hope everyone knows that this is a joke.

Thats funny -- So fast the instrument panel is just a blur -- I want to know what interstate you were on while cruising 160
so I can see the destruction on the 5PM news as the engine
comes out through the hood ---
Unless you get a non-street legal "chip " for the EEC
no stock Mark is doing 145 -- Think of the fun the ambulance
chaser lawyers would have with this one --

I took those pictures like a year or two ago because of a similar discussion I had with a gentleman that changed his gears. It seemed that after changing gears, he could bury his 120 speedo easily. Someone pointed out the changes in ratio and the fact that the speedo was connected ~before~ the transaxle and was reading speed based on engine (transmission) movement and not trap or ground speed.

Wanna know how fast you're topping out at?

Fly by the troopers in Pennsylvania. They'll tell you. They'll even write it down for you.
:)
:)
:)

I would like to see how fast that car is going. Obviously the speedometer only goes to 120. But can't you reset the average speed while you are going faster than the speedometer and it will show you how fast you are going. For example in an earlier Mark VII with an 85 mph speedo, you can do that. Not sure if it will work above 120, does anyone know for sure?

I think it was like 112 but again, our guages lie lie lie.

It will work above 120. I've pegged the 85 MPH speedo before. I estimate the top speed of the Mark VII to be about 130-135 due to aerodynamic drag and power. A Police Interceptor Vic can do 130-135 depending on whether or not it has the light bar so this is a safe estimate. All Mark VIIs came with a speed limiter built into the computer. Unless you've swapped it out with a manual Mustang computer, had a chip burned, and/or added a lot of power, you won't see 150, not even on a really good day.

The AOD is designed to go into D at WOT to save your OD band. Unless you have an A+ servo, heavy duty OD band, and a good shift kit from a place like Baumann Engineering, I wouldn't try to make a stock AOD hold OD under severe load, not unless you want a new tranny.

I am new to this site but not new to Mark VII's, You could car me a Mark VII veteren considering i have owned 4 of them. I know a stock mark VII will barly do 110 but my Mark is far from stock. I have a heavely modified 1990 LSC Mark VII and it does 120 without much effort at all . I have had it pegged at 120 and the car showed no sign of lag or deceleration after being beyond 120 for at least 6 seconds at only 4800rpm. The only reason I stoped was the fear for my life. I know all you nay sayers are saying that its not possible or im full of it but I think it was up near 145 or greater. My car has no limiting factors such as fuel or anything else other then drag. I have a 255lph fuel pump with 24lb injectors, mass airflow conversion with mustang computer, 73mm mass airmeter and 70mm throttle body, cold air intake, ford racing E-camshaft, ported and polished heads, machined out the stock upper intake. under drive pullies, electric cooling fan 2.5'' exuast with no cats race H-pipe and flowmaster mufflers, lowered coil suspension with mustang struts and shocks, MSD 6al control box and distributer, Tp sensor Throttle response enhancer, high volume oil pump, and a steeda adjustable idle bypass...... WHEW im tired after saying all that and i know I forgot someting lol. This car is purely for speed and it destroys everything else I have raced since i rebuilt her engine last year and modified her. Cameros, firebirds, street racers I have beat them and beleive me they couldent believe it. Well if anybody has any questions drop me a e-mail at mark7vip@yahoo.com and check out pics of my car at cardomain http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/683833 mark7predator

JON with Mark7predator

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I have a 255lph fuel pump with 24lb injectors, mass airflow conversion with mustang computer, 73mm mass airmeter and 70mm throttle body, cold air intake, ford racing E-camshaft, ported and polished heads, machined out the stock upper intake. under drive pullies, electric cooling fan 2.5'' exuast with no cats race H-pipe and flowmaster mufflers, lowered coil suspension with mustang struts and shocks, MSD 6al control box and distributer, Tp sensor Throttle response enhancer, high volume oil pump, and a steeda adjustable idle bypass......
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Welcome.

Reread my post.

"I know this guy that did the quarter (mile) in 12.08@110 in a HIGHLY MODIFIED Mark VII. I think if DISNEY was given about 100 more feet of track, ~he~ could bust a 130-150 groove. Stock Mark VIIs where built as luxury sporting coupes. Something in the amount of fuel flow and cam size and air intake restrictions and exhaust restrictions that make us max out before 120."

Welcome.

Reread my post.

"I know this guy that did the quarter (mile) in 12.08@110 in a HIGHLY MODIFIED Mark VII. I think if DISNEY was given about 100 more feet of track, ~he~ could bust a 130-150 groove. Stock Mark VIIs where built as luxury sporting coupes. Something in the amount of fuel flow and cam size and air intake restrictions and exhaust restrictions that make us max out before 120."

My 85 Mark VII kept saying 85 mph no matter how fast she was going LOL

My 85 Mark VII kept saying 85 mph no matter how fast she was going LOL
hehehehe
Digital dashes!
"But officer! I couldn't have been doing more than 85 because my speedometer says so!"
In 1986 we got analogs in our Mark VII LSCs ad people (like Nick "ND4SPDLSC") started burying the needle until it pointed to the steering collumn. I know this because I've done the same thing.

Modified Marks can do reMarkable things.

Stock Marks can do reMarkable things ... within their designed and documented and tested and factory tuned limits.

Our 13 to 21 year old guages lie lie lie.

The lowest factory gear for a Mark was the 2.73 in the 1985 diesel and the 3.07 in the 1984-1985 Bill Blass.

Take it to the track and do the math from there.

hehehehe
In 1986 we got analogs in our Mark VII LSCs ad people (like Nick "ND4SPDLSC") started burying the needle until it pointed to the steering collumn. I know this because I've done the same thing.

LMAO, I have done this several times in my '89 Grand Marquis!!! The needle went into the tripometer!

LMAO, I have done this several times in my '89 Grand Marquis!!! The needle went into the tripometer!
Exactly!
But ... being the testosterone laden beings that we guys are, we want to believe ~something~ ... ANYTHING that says, 'we fast, we big, we bad' so we look at an 80 mph guage that's 16 years old and pointing south and say, "I gotta be doing at least 160!!!"

Again guys, it's cool.

If you REALLY wanna see your speed, get one of these:

http://www.lscclub.org/temp/20041119/PB201093t.JPG (http://www.lscclub.org/temp/20041119/PB201093.JPG)


See: http://www.lscclub.org/temp/20041119

Um ... BTW, I was car #250

Topping out a 120 mph speedo that has been recalibrated at a Ford dealership recently is just a bit harder then topping out a 16 year 80 mph speedo isn't it? :L I'm not making any spectacular claim on my top speed other then it was pegged at 120 and still accelerating. As for getting a timeslip I'll be getting one as soon as the weather clears up here in Michigan and I can lay down a couple good runs. I'm thinking I will be laying down low 15's to high 14's with my car around 90-100 mph. :steering

Jon / MarkVIIpredator :cool:

my mark is compleatly stock other than the redneck intake and a race trans, and i just got clocked in doing 120 compleatly stock with 3.08s. that was in 3rd gear.

I got to 130 with my old '89 with plenty of petal left in low 4ks. Once again with stock ride height/suspension and bad tires I went far too fast at that point.

If you got the balls I see 150 being attainable nevermind with a little work done and car lowered.

-TtC

Where in Mass. are you from?

bout 25 minutes south of Boston(excluding traffic).

Yourself?

-TtC

20 minutes north of Boston.. if that

Cool cool.

i have reached speeds of 140mph in my lincoln mark vii with only mods being cold air intake and larger wheels i kno the speedo goes up to 120 but a buddy of mine has a corvette and he stated we reached 140 mph after my speedo pinned at 120 for about 10 secs

Ok.

The Speedo on my mark VIII goes up to 140.
Its a 97'
I havent got it just yet but i put a down payment on it and ill be getting it in a couple of days after my insurance company comes through with some money.
I smashed up my continetal, damn brakes.
I'll post some pictures.

Why won't this thread die?!?!?!?!?! :F :bash:

Wow...this thread is good for a few laughs.

I'm thinking I will be laying down low 15's to high 14's with my car around 90-100 mph. :steering


Anything close to 100mph in the quarter is about as believeable as taking a Mark VII over 120.

What's done to your car?

Wow...this thread is good for a few laughs.

:I Indeed.....

Before I bought Sifrino. I took her out and got her well past 120mph. (Stock)

The car is goverened to 116 and stock instruments are KNOWN to be off.

Unless you have some prototype car, I'm sorry, but the car ain't goin' over 116.

I beg to differ. i have a 88 bb and all it has is a cold air intake, leaking injectors, and a spun ballancer, and i past a vette that was doing 115i passed him like nothin. i was going a good 20mph faster than him, and the RPM's were still climing hella good. now i know that my speedo is really off, but i did the math and i was going about 135, so i know for a fact that the mark will go faster than 116. now lets see what Old School 1 has to say, take it over....

Until I see pics/video of a GPS unit or radar gun in use, I'm calling :bsflag:

What math did you use? Hopefully it's not the same that told you over 100mph in second gear.

Here's OS2 in March of 2004 and slightly modified at 15.57.
http://www.lscclub.org/video/20040320v3.wmv

Here's NYC LSC November 2004 at 14.07 and OS2 at 15.39.
http://www.lscclub.org/video/20041126a.wmv

Here's some real slow guy named Disney. Don't blink.
http://www.turpeninsurance.com/12secondpass.mov

I think I'll shut up now. http://www.lscclub.org/images/tapedshut.gif

God damn my car sounds good :D

no, my math didnt say that i could do 100 in 2nd, that was according to edelbrock. my math says that in 2nd, i could do only like 50-70 in 2nd depinding how hard i want to push the poor old motor

top speed for a 88 GTC mark VII

The VIII, ungovernered, according to Ford, is supposed to be able to hit 162.
That's with considerably better aerodynamics and almost 100 extra horsepower.

thanks i was wondering i just got that car and havent pushed it yet waiting for the right conditions

GTCs have the same engine computer, unless they had the 5.8L swap. 116 MPH again is the limit. For all the other speed demons out there, I'd worry about tires and driveline vibration, which are the two main reasons behind speed limiters.

I thought that mk8s that were outfitted safetywise for it and delimited were good for something near 200? that was with a blueprinted and balanced motor and all, but still
by numbers, 5 grand in drive is roughly 122 mph. factor in tachometer inconsistencies and 118 makes more sense. that is, as long as your abs still works and your wheel speed sensors are functioning

I thought that mk8s that were outfitted safetywise for it and delimited were good for something near 200? that was with a blueprinted and balanced motor and all, but still
by numbers, 5 grand in drive is roughly 122 mph. factor in tachometer inconsistencies and 118 makes more sense. that is, as long as your abs still works and your wheel speed sensors are functioning

This is a Mark VII 7 seven thread...

I own an 89 Lincoln mark7 and can tell you from experience this car goes faster the 110,120,130 .I figured with the time it took my car to decelerate from the top end back down to 85 ,I was cruising above 130.Also as fast as everything was passing byI was definitely going faster then 110 or 120.I know what it feels like to do 110 or 120 and let me tell you it doesnt feel anything like doing 135 0r 140.i have been in many cars going above 120(the fastest I personally ever went was 160 in my buddies 68 corvette with a 454 in it,we buried the speedo).So may it betold,your mark7 will go faster then 120!!!!!

My 91 SE hit top speed easily, my speedo pinned for a liitle bit, I guessed 125 before the car quit (scary feeling) I believe 116 is the cut off as speedo errors are common at that speed. I always thought it was 120, close enough.

I own an 89 Lincoln mark7 and can tell you from experience this car goes faster the 110,120,130 .I figured with the time it took my car to decelerate from the top end back down to 85 ,I was cruising above 130.Also as fast as everything was passing byI was definitely going faster then 110 or 120.I know what it feels like to do 110 or 120 and let me tell you it doesnt feel anything like doing 135 0r 140.i have been in many cars going above 120(the fastest I personally ever went was 160 in my buddies 68 corvette with a 454 in it,we buried the speedo).So may it betold,your mark7 will go faster then 120!!!!!

THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL A STOCK 7 WILL GO THAT SPEED!!! I HAVE BEEN THERE, DONE THAT IN MY OLD 7 AND THE SPEEDO BARELY WENT OVER 120!!! THIS THREAD SUCKS DONKEYS FOR QUARTERS AND SOMEHOW IT KEEPS COMING BACK!!!

THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL A STOCK 7 WILL GO THAT SPEED!!! I HAVE BEEN THERE, DONE THAT IN MY OLD 7 AND THE SPEEDO BARELY WENT OVER 120!!! THIS THREAD SUCKS DONKEYS FOR QUARTERS AND SOMEHOW IT KEEPS COMING BACK!!!

It makes me smile when we agree on something. ;)

THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL A STOCK 7 WILL GO THAT SPEED!!! I HAVE BEEN THERE, DONE THAT IN MY OLD 7 AND THE SPEEDO BARELY WENT OVER 120!!! THIS THREAD SUCKS DONKEYS FOR QUARTERS AND SOMEHOW IT KEEPS COMING BACK!!!
Sorry man, I'm kinda new and never saw it before. It is a gay thread agreed.

Sorry man, I'm kinda new

Nah, I was talking to "HotLincoln." What you said was absolutely true

It makes me smile when we agree on something. ;)

:lol:

I know you weren't directing it at me, I'm meant sorry for posting on the stupid thread.

Even with the 5spd my car stops pulling @ 120 or so because of drag. Its a stock HO with new air, plugs, fuel, pcv, wires, cap, rotor, seafoam treatment in oil, gas ,and engine, removed air silencer, equal length shorty headers, no cats, flowmasters, less weight with the 5spd plus i've ripped a bunch of :q:q:q:q out, the speedo gear and ABS disabled (they tell the computer its doing 116 so it cuts it off)

Still with all of that, my NOT so stock mark vii would never see 130 miles per hour.

It just cant, stock. Not until your making more power, the aerodynamics of the car vs. the air (drag) WILL NOT ALLOW IT TO GO ANY FASTER, unless you are going down a 45 degree angled hill for 10 miles, your car will stop pulling at 120 give or take a few.

135-140 with a stock mark vii? all i can say about that is shut the :q:q:q:q up, never happened.

Just let this thread die.

Mine hit the shut off with 3 decent sized people inside, moon roof open, both windows down. If the limiter wasn't there, I could see alittle more, but not much.

THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL A STOCK 7 WILL GO THAT SPEED!!! I HAVE BEEN THERE, DONE THAT IN MY OLD 7 AND THE SPEEDO BARELY WENT OVER 120!!! THIS THREAD SUCKS DONKEYS FOR QUARTERS AND SOMEHOW IT KEEPS COMING BACK!!!
Don't hold back.
Tell us how you ~really~ feel :)

I hitmy shutter offer almost every day on the way to work and it feels like 110 or so. I beleive the 116 mph shut off is right.now all of this is on z-rated tires so i feel comfortable doing it.

all you guys act like 120 is so fast.well its not.try doing 160 in a vet,or how about 140 on a bored out harley.so quit your pissn and moanin. with that said,I am not the original owner of my mark7 so maybe the previous owner did some things to the engine that i don't know about,OK.maybe there is a chip in it,I don't know,but I do know it will go faster than 116,my freaken 4 popper dodge neon will do 116,she was screaman but she did it,so i know my mark will go faster then my neon.

all you guys act like 120 is so fast.well its not.try doing 160 in a vet,or how about 140 on a bored out harley.so quit your pissn and moanin. with that said,I am not the original owner of my mark7 so maybe the previous owner did some things to the engine that i don't know about,OK.maybe there is a chip in it,I don't know,but I do know it will go faster than 116,my freaken 4 popper dodge neon will do 116,she was screaman but she did it,so i know my mark will go faster then my neon.


Go you :rolleyes:

Want a cookie? My mark does over 116 also, big deal.

Well..If it means anything I have a jet chip which removes the stock 116 limit...I know it will go over 120...Im guessing atleast 130....I have had mine buried at 120 like nothing.....

Well..If it means anything I have a jet chip which removes the stock 116 limit...I know it will go over 120...Im guessing atleast 130....I have had mine buried at 120 like nothing.....

Jet chip does NOT remove the speed limiter!!!

http://www.jetchip.com/products.asp?pid=21695&make=36&model=709#709

Hahahahahhaha this effing thread, please, please, please just let this POS dieeeeeeeeeeee. A stock mark vii will not do over 130, period.

Must ... not ... die ... must ... reach ... utility ... belt ... still ... subscribed ... to ... thread ...













:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
(ttt)

That is so sad that your stock and modded mark 7's only do like 120-125. My 94 mark 8 does 130 with the "od" off at 7 grand. Quad cams rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who let the kid in?
:)

Who let the kid in?
:)

You must be refering to Captain Brilliance who thinks that a Mark VIII can tach 7,000RPM. :rolleyes:

Can we lock this thread???!!!

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Captain Brilliance
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Laughing My Ass Off

Can we lock this thread???!!!

You remind me of the Kid in the back seat saying, "Are we there yet?" :D

I left my "Forum Locking Keys" on my Utility Belt. :shifty:

You remind me of the Kid in the back seat saying, "Are we there yet?" :D

I left my "Forum Locking Keys" on my Utility Belt. :shifty:

Funny, thats exactly how I feel...:lol: