So, I was out this afternoon and my wife wanted to run into Barnes and Noble so I told her I would just hang out. I parallel parked the car right in front of the store. Took me 2 turns, nothing fancy, I didnt crank on the wheel really or anything. So she comes out and hops in the car. I back up a little then turn the wheel to the left and I bumped the steering off of lock for a second and just then I heard a noise, right then the P/S quit. I pulled it into the parking lot and opened the hood. No fluid spewing out of anywhere, the reservoir was still full and the fluid looks clean. I flushed the P/S a few months ago. It did not throw the belt or anything, but all I could hear with the engine running was it sounded like someone was tapping on the pump with a metal pick or something.

I drove the car home, nothing happened really. Gonna order a FOMOCO pump tomorrow. WTF happened?

Yup, sounds like the pump is dead, bad bearing
pick the front wheels up while bleeding the system, it's easier on a new pump

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Dan, what did you put back into the system after flushing out the old?

Ok I did a ninja edit, but since someone replied I'll reposy what I said

if you flush a PS system it can have the same effect as flushing a tranny that has bad fluid, the system can fail when you wash the dirt that's acting as a seal out

However in your case I think the bearing went bad, in either case the pump needs to be replaced, I'll get ya a price on one if ya want

Ford PS fluid from the parts department at my dealership. I think it is Mercon 5 equivalent. I've done this flush on my other cars in the past. It was like someone flipped a switch, it went from working fine, to dead. And I figured if it was a bearing, it would have maybe seized and threw the belt, but it drove me about 30 miles home, fluid still looks fine, and is full.

something could have let go on the rack too, i assume the steering is very tight now? its possible it might not be the pump at all, it could be the rack. lift the front wheels off the ground and with the car off, and the key on, see how hard it is to turn the front wheels with the pump not running, if its real tight still, you may need a rack.

I was wondering about that... the rack. The only thing that makes me wonder is the funny sound coming from the pump.

maybe it isnt coming from the pump!

The no leaking is what has me wondering if it's really the pump. That's something that I know nothing about but most of the pumps that I have seen or heard of going bad were leaking.

like your colostomy bag.

My car sucks. I figured out yesterday at work that one of my rear inner upper control arm bushings is shot... got that and a lower control arm for the front on order from rockauto. Now a f*ing steering component that is going to be expensive...

My car sucks. I figured out yesterday at work that one of my rear inner upper control arm bushings is shot... got that and a lower control arm for the front on order from rockauto. Now a f*ing steering component that is going to be expensive...

Is it the pump or rack Dan?

i'll find out tomorrow... gotta throw it on the lift
I figure a pump won't be that bad expense wise, but I think a rack is probably obscene

no its not i just got a ford rack for my 93 for $119 after i brought the core back. mine was leaking everytime it was turned to the left, and it wasnt a drip, it was pissing out the side during left turns, so bad it totally rotted the inner tie-rod dust boot to nothing!
racks arent bad. in fact i believe nolimit has a brand new one he is looking to get rid of.

Thanks for the heads up... I'm gonna head to work early this morning to take a look at it.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc60/asysz/FackedPump.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc60/asysz/PumpShaft.jpg

Removed the belt and the pump shaft literally fell out of the pump. Looked inside and you can see the gerotor just broke into peices around the shaft. I ordered a new pump and a reservoir. The screen at the bottom of my current reservoir is torn, so thats why I figured i'd get a new one. Should all be here by tomorrow. I did install my new sensatracs today too :D

Wow. Never seen one do that before! Guess that settles what the problem is. :lol:

Nah, still think it might be the rack.... :D jk

Car stayed at work tonight, parts didnt come in yet.

i'd check the rack out, usually when the rack goes bad, it causes the pump shaft and pulley to fall out!!

o rly? I think I better check the rack. :)

please, check the rack!!!

by all means, check the rack....

I think I'll check the rack.

I would even go in early, just to check the rack and contrary to some peoples beliefs, you might want to save as much of the old fluid to go back in the system. All fresh Mercon V fluid might tend to mess something up, such as the rack!

I'm only j/k Dan, you are the certified mechanic and I'm sure you know what you're doing or you wouldn't be certified and working in the field that you're working in.

I appreciate that. I have brand new fluid at the ready to go in. I did not see any signs of metal in the fluid, which is a good thing. It was still red too, not burnt up or anything.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc60/asysz/Pumpandreservoir.jpg

I would even go in early, just to check the rack and contrary to some peoples beliefs, you might want to save as much of the old fluid to go back in the system. All fresh Mercon V fluid might tend to mess something up, such as the rack!

I'm only j/k Dan, you are the certified mechanic and I'm sure you know what you're doing or you wouldn't be certified and working in the field that you're working in.
Smart dumb ass. :p

Smart dumb ass. :p

:D Gotta have jokes Laser or we would never have any fun on here.

Put the new pump and reservoir in. Reman Motorcraft pump. Only difference I noticed is how on the factory pump there is a little bracket in the 90* part of the high pressure line, the new pump doesn't have a boss for the 8mm bolt that holds that bracket on. I just removed the bracket. Installed a new teflon o-ring and tightened everything up. Filled it up with Motorcraft Merc V. Didnt even wine or need bled. I turned it left and right and it had no tight spots. Backed it out and drove it home. No drama other than the :q:q:q:q:q:q:q transmission guy parked an f350 with no reverse right behind my bay so I couldnt get my car out. The service manager got pissed because he knew he did it on purpose (me and this guy have been going back and forth, he's such an asshat, and best yet he's a deacon at a church.) We put a jack under the back axle and dragged it outta the way so I could get my car out.

is there a write up on how to change a power steering pump on a gen 2? I cant seem to find one. also is this something anyone can do? or should i look for a mechanic to do it?

Check the rack first.......

I mean no offense to you when i say this but, if you have to ask how to do it, let someone else do the work. Its just safer and probably cheaper for you in the long run.

is there a write up on how to change a power steering pump on a gen 2? I cant seem to find one. also is this something anyone can do? or should i look for a mechanic to do it?
A 10mm ratcheting wrench will help you a lot as well as a stubby 18mm for the line. Four bolts and it drops right out then one hose clamp and one 18mm line nut. Not a big deal.

Its easy sauce. 3 or 4 10mm bolts hold the pump to the block. Use a 3/8" ratchet to release the belt tensioner. You then need to disconnect the fluid hoses from the pump, its really pretty simple. EDIT: didn't see there was a second page with people replying to the same question...

Its easy sauce. 3 or 4 10mm bolts hold the pump to the block. Use a 3/8" ratchet to release the belt tensioner. You then need to disconnect the fluid hoses from the pump, its really pretty simple. EDIT: didn't see there was a second page with people replying to the same question...
Slight points Dan. Its 4 10mm bolts. The line nut is 18mm and you need a 1/2" drive to loosen the driveline blet.
You will also need a pulley puller since new pumps don't have the pulley. Be careful not to push the new one on too far.

^^ What you said! Its been too long since I put that pump on. I know the pump has 4 holes, but I think I might be thinking about the 6.0s that use the same pump but some of them only have 3 bolts because there is a line over one of the bolt holes.

Our pump has the line over the bottom front bolt. Be careful with that pulley, some are phenolic..which break easy

You need this to R&R
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